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China tells Japan to ‘get used to’ warplanes flying overhead
By Reuters

July 14, 2017 | 9:22am
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A Chinese Air Force Su-30 fighter, right, flies along with a H-6K bomber as they take part in a drill near the East China Sea in 2016.AP

BEIJING – China told Japan on Friday to “get used to it” after it flew six warplanes over the Miyako Strait between two southern Japanese islands in a military exercise.

Japan’s defense ministry issued a statement late on Thursday describing the flyover by the formation of Xian H-6 bombers earlier that day as “unusual”, while noting that there had been no violation of Japanese airspace.

The Chinese navy and air force have in recent months carried out a series of exercises in the Western Pacific, as they hone their ability to operate far from their home shores.

The Chinese defense ministry said it was “legal and proper” for its military aircraft to operate in the airspace and that it would continue to organize regular training exercises according to “mission requirements”.

“The relevant side should not make a fuss about nothing or over-interpret, it will be fine once they get used to it,” the ministry said in a statement.

The Miyako Strait is between Japan’s islands of Miyako and Okinawa, to the northeast of self-ruled Taiwan, which China claims as its own.

Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said on Thursday the Chinese bombers flew just outside its air defense identification zone and that it had “closely followed” the movements.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/14/china-tells-japan-to-get-used-to-warplanes-flying-overhead/
 
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What's the point of this post? That strait is accepted international water, isn't it?

Why are Indians jumping up and down for a non-issue?
 
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Japan should shoot it down next time. Seriously. China won't want to risk the instability of war and the Japanese self defense forces are more than capable of seeing off a short reactionary response from China. If China chooses to escalate then expect more US activity in the region and Japan ending its pacifist constitution. Japan changed its defence policy over the Senkaku islands so imagine what they would do if China posed a real and immediate threat.

China will only act tough so long as they can get away with it. Once bitten, twice shy. Shoot it down next time.


It is in international airspace.

How about getting used to shot down planes? :lol:

It is an international air space

Hate bullys, hope China gets what is deserved to them.

Again, international airspace.
 
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China tells Japan to ‘get used to’ warplanes flying overhead
By Reuters

July 14, 2017 | 9:22am
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A Chinese Air Force Su-30 fighter, right, flies along with a H-6K bomber as they take part in a drill near the East China Sea in 2016.AP

BEIJING – China told Japan on Friday to “get used to it” after it flew six warplanes over the Miyako Strait between two southern Japanese islands in a military exercise.

Japan’s defense ministry issued a statement late on Thursday describing the flyover by the formation of Xian H-6 bombers earlier that day as “unusual”, while noting that there had been no violation of Japanese airspace.

The Chinese navy and air force have in recent months carried out a series of exercises in the Western Pacific, as they hone their ability to operate far from their home shores.

The Chinese defense ministry said it was “legal and proper” for its military aircraft to operate in the airspace and that it would continue to organize regular training exercises according to “mission requirements”.

“The relevant side should not make a fuss about nothing or over-interpret, it will be fine once they get used to it,” the ministry said in a statement.

The Miyako Strait is between Japan’s islands of Miyako and Okinawa, to the northeast of self-ruled Taiwan, which China claims as its own.

Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said on Thursday the Chinese bombers flew just outside its air defense identification zone and that it had “closely followed” the movements.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/14/china-tells-japan-to-get-used-to-warplanes-flying-overhead/

What is the big deal ?
 
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Of course it is in international airspace but the point here is the Timing, Message and Chinese Attitude.

In the Malabar 2007 addition naval exercises, Five countries had participated in it - US, India, Japan, Australia, Singapore & Australia.

China was so annoyed that they sent a demarche to the participating nations. The result was that Singapore and Australia had dropped from participating in the following years but Japan had formally re-joined US-India as permanent participant since 2015.

Malabar 2017 edition is current in progress from 10th to 17th, July 2017 in the Indian ocean with US, Japan & India participating in it.

China is trying to send a message to Japan that their bases at Miyako and Okinawa are going to targets.

Basically China is trying to put pressure on Japan to drop off from the Malabar exercises with US & India.


Totally wrong reading of the situation. The Chinese have been flying over Miyako straits for a long time. And they have been increasing their frequency.

They are telling Japan that PLA won't be any longer constrained to the first island chain.
 
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Of course it is in international airspace but the point here is the Timing, Message and Chinese Attitude.

In the Malabar 2007 addition naval exercises, Five countries had participated in it - US, India, Japan, Australia, Singapore & Australia.

China was so annoyed that they sent a demarche to the participating nations. The result was that Singapore and Australia had dropped from participating in the following years but Japan had formally re-joined US-India as permanent participant since 2015.

Malabar 2017 edition is current in progress from 10th to 17th, July 2017 in the Indian ocean with US, Japan & India participating in it.

China is trying to send a message to Japan that their bases at Miyako and Okinawa are going to targets.

Basically China is trying to put pressure on Japan to drop off from the Malabar exercises with US & India.

It is not going to happen. Japan is under America's nuclear umbrella. Chinese behavior will drive more countries into US camp.
 
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Totally wrong reading of the situation. The Chinese have been flying over Miyako straits for a long time. And they have been increasing their frequency.

They are telling Japan that PLA won't be any longer constrained to the first island chain.

I agree that Chinese have been doing it for sometime but you should note the timing. Last time too they sent 40 aircraft when Japan & US were involved in the naval exercises.

09.01.2017 Author: Vladimir Terehov
Chinese Military Reclaims the Miyako Strait
Column: Politics
Region: Eastern Asia
Country: China

On December 25, a Chinese aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, used the Strait of Miyako as a passage way out of the East China Sea into the Pacific Ocean, accompanied by five other Chinese Navy surface ships. The strait separates the eponymous island from Okinawa, the largest island of the Ryukyu archipelago, which is generally known to belong to Japan.

This more than 200 km wide strait is officially listed under international waters available for shipping to all the countries of the world and Japan cannot interfere with it.

However, being ordinary from the point of view of international law, this event provoked an increased interest not only in Japan but also in the United States. This comes in the wake of the fact that, for the past few years, the Chinese Navy has been using the Miyako Strait as an exit-passage way into the western part of the Pacific Ocean with the aim of carrying out “routine exercises”.

This recent passage through the strait has generated particular interest due to the fact that, for the first time, the group of warships included the only available Chinese aircraft carrier that “was restored” from the former (unfinished) Soviet “Varyag” that was at the disposal of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR.

Sold to China at the end of the 90s for a certain amount, the carrier has undergone modernization, and at the end of 2012, became part of the nation’s Navy. The aircraft carrier’s main armament is a group of 24 J-15fighter aircrafts, strongly reminiscent of the Russian SU-33.

The Chinese Navy High Command stated that the main purpose for bringing the “Liaoning” into service was to acquire experience in the development and subsequent operation of a completely new and extremely complex combat system. This experience is then subsequently used in designing a new series of carriers, one of which is already under construction.

China is fully assessing the incomparability of the combat potentials of its only aircraft carrier and 11 modern US nuclear attack aircraft carriers. This is not to mention China’s lack of experience in using the aircraft carrier attack groups – the experience that the US Navy definitely has.

Nevertheless, “Liaoning” is already being used to “lift the flag high” in the South China Sea, which is perhaps the hottest zone of confrontation with the main geopolitical opponents comprising of the US and Japan.

This time, the South China Sea again became the final destination of the passage by the Chinese aircraft carrier group. Having passed the Strait of Miyako, the group went around Eastern Taiwan and entered the South China Sea through the Bashi Strait that separates this island from the Philippine archipelago.

Of particular importance to note here is that two weeks earlier, a group of two bombers and two reconnaissance aircraft (which up to the Miyako Strait were accompanied by two Chinese Navy SU-30s) had made almost the same “loop” around Taiwan (but by air). Two Japanese F-15fighter aircrafts coming from bases in Okinawa simulated an interception of the Chinese group.

It should be noted that the period of development by the Chinese military aircraft of the airspace over the Strait of Miyako has lasted for several years. However, on December 11, 2016, the Japanese Air Force for the first time simulated an interception of Chinese crafts outside its national airspace, which was the reason for the mutual picks of both countries’foreign affairs ministries.

The location and time of China’s recent actions on the Strait of Miyako give certainty to the fact that they are indeed politically motivated, and are directed as a warning message to recipients in the three capitals: Washington, Taipei and Tokyo. These “messages” include long-term as well as current strategic and tactical components.

As part of its long-term strategy, Beijing has once again made it clear that China will not tolerate the long-standing intention by the US to limit the Chinese military zone of influence on the so-called “First Island Line”, which includes the Ryukyu Archipelago, Taiwan, as well as the Philippine and Indonesian archipelagoes.

Coupled with that, with the development of its aircraft carrier fleet, the Chinese Navy will still more actively carry out activities across the entire Pacific Ocean, entering the waters through the “First Island Line”straits.

As for the political “routine”, it is impossible not to note how China took these actions at a time when Washington was busy contemplating on further foreign policy in the Asia-Pacific region as a whole, particularly towards its main rival in the region.

In reporting these developments, an illustrator at the Chinese Global Times has once again displayed the exact state in which the two main world players now find themselves. Looking into each other’s eyes and pressing the cards “to their orders”, they are dumping them onto the gaming table, one by one.

The US president-elect played his move in this game by having a telephone conversation with the president of Taiwan, Tsai Ing-wen, whose activities in March 2016 within the capacity of the highest office of the “rebel island” caused Beijing a considerable headache.

In turn, the circumvention and fly around Taiwan at sea and by air by Chinese warships and bombers carrying nuclear weapons is a return “strike” by Beijing, which is relaying the message: “This is mine”.

diplomatic isolation”, if Tsai Ing-wen continues aggravating the situation to the international arena. After such developments, it is incumbent for the Taiwanese president to tour a number of countries in Central America, with a stop in the United States.

An example of Beijing’s “response” is the recent rupture of diplomatic relations with Taiwan by the tiny African state of Sao Tome and Principe.

Finally, the increased attention by the Chinese military to the Miyako Strait is more or less directed at Tokyo. That is quite understandable, as in recent years, Japan has been playing an increasingly influential role in the regional and global political processes, meaning that the triggering factor for this trend is the perception that China is now the main source of the threats to its national interests.

Judging by the incident in the skies over this strait, Japan intends to harness other such acts of mutual military confrontation (in the Senkaku / Diaoyu and the South China Sea areas) in enhancing the role of military tools in its relations with China.

Meanwhile, Beijing has only warily accepted Japan’s new defense budget draft for 2017, particularly plans for the deployment in Okinawa of “ground-ground” missiles with a range of 300 km by 2023, which (in the case of aggravation of the situation) would be able to block access to the Miyako Strait.

Japan canal ready be viewed as the third major player at a table of the significant regional political action.

All is well as long as this fiasco continues unfolding in the manner of a card game in which, as one of the moves, the Chinese had to move their ships and fly their aircrafts into the Miyako Strait.

What matters is that the main actors do not suddenly begin casting their cards, and seize their guns.

Vladimir Terekhov, expert on the Asia-Pacific region, exclusively for the Internet magazine –New Eastern Outlook
https://journal-neo.org/2017/01/09/chinese-military-reclaims-the-miyako-strait/



Japan scrambles jets over China flights along Miyako Straits
  • 26 September 2016
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Image captionChina said about 40 of its aircraft were involved in a routine drill
Japan says it scrambled fighter jets on Sunday after eight Chinese military aircraft flew between Japanese islands.

The planes, thought to be bombers, surveillance planes and one fighter jet, flew along the Miyako Straits, between Okinawa and Miyakojima.

China said about 40 of its aircraft had been involved in what it said was a routine drill.

The planes did not cross into Japanese airspace, but the move is being seen as a show of force by China.

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It comes one week after Japan said it would take part in joint training exercises with the US navy in the South China Sea.

Japan's top government spokesman said Japan would be watching China's military movements closely.

Tokyo will "continue to devote every effort to vigilance and surveillance and rigorously enforce steps against intrusions into our airspace based on international law and the self-defence forces law", said Yoshihide Suga.

The Miyako Strait is a strategically important 250km (155 miles) wide stretch of water south of Okinawa and close to Taiwan.

It is also close to a group of islands in the East China Sea which are claimed by both Japan and China.

Japan, which controls the islands, calls them Senkaku, while China calls them the Diaoyu Islands.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37469983

It is not going to happen. Japan is under America's nuclear umbrella. Chinese behavior will drive more countries into US camp.

Very true. In fact Australia is again showing interest in rejoining the Malabar exercises with US-India-Japan.

They wanted to join the in progress 2017 edition but India was looking for a firm commitment from Australia that they would not leave under Chinese pressure like it happened in 2007.

There is high likelihood now that Australia would rejoin as permanent member starting 2018 Malabar edition.
 
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Japan should shoot it down next time. Seriously. China won't want to risk the instability of war and the Japanese self defense forces are more than capable of seeing off a short reactionary response from China. If China chooses to escalate then expect more US activity in the region and Japan ending its pacifist constitution. Japan changed its defence policy over the Senkaku islands so imagine what they would do if China posed a real and immediate threat.

China will only act tough so long as they can get away with it. Once bitten, twice shy. Shoot it down next time.
Shooting down aircraft in international airspace is an act of war and under US defense treaty, it doesn't cover offensive provocation. So no, my Turkie friend, the US isn't obligated to help because that will risk a direct war with China and the possibility of nuke exchange. No one wants to see a nuke exchange over Japan rhetoric maneuvers to shoot down a foreign aircraft in international airspace. Can we have international law here? Can our people accept a foreign country shooting down our aircraft in international airspace. Can the world accept a foreign aircraft is no longer safe in international water? those questions, my Turkie friend, is why your suggestion should be taken as a joke. LOL
 
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Shooting down aircraft in international airspace is an act of war and under US defense treaty, it doesn't cover offensive provocation. So no, my Turkie friend, the US isn't obligated to help because that will risk a direct war with China and the possibility of nuke exchange. No one wants to see a nuke exchange over Japan rhetoric maneuvers to shoot down a foreign aircraft in international airspace. Can we have international law here? Can our people accept a foreign country shooting down our aircraft in international airspace. Can the world accept a foreign aircraft is no longer safe in international water? those questions, my Turkie friend, is why your suggestion should be taken as a joke. LOL

I would not test American security commitment to Japan. For that matter Taiwan.
 
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Nice media spin. Paint the aggressor (Japan) as some helpless victim while big bad China "tells Japan to get used to bla bla bla". This is proganda: demonize China whenever possible, always follow the 'anyone but China policy'. But its true, japan better stop their tomfoolery, China isnt gonna sit silently anymore.
 
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