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Official sources also confirmed that China has put a "technical hold" on India’s request to list Syed Salahuddin.
Despite commitments on fighting terror in the joint statement between India and China during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Beijing, officials say they are “concerned” over a series of moves by the Chinese government to stall India’s proposals at the United Nations.

Since December 2014, India’s Permanent Mission to the UN has filed at least three separate proposals on Pakistan-based terrorists, each of which has been reportedly delayed or stopped by China at the United Nations Security Council sanctions committee on Al-Qaida and associated entities. “We are concerned about China’s persistent opposition to our terror proposals,” a government official said.

Official sources also confirmed to The Hindu that China has put a “technical hold” on India’s request to list Hizbul Mujahideen chief and head of the ‘United Jihad Council’, Syed Salahuddin. The “technical hold” amounts to a veto on going ahead with the listing process for at least three months, as the UN Committee on al-Qaeda and associated entities, (also called the ‘1267 Committee’ for the UN Security Council resolution of 1999 that banned Al-Qaida and Taliban leaders), as the committee can only decide by “consensus”. All 1267 committee meetings are “closed-door sessions” between the 15 Security Council members, so officials depend on other diplomats to tell them which country opposes and supports a proposal.

Sources said the hold was put on Salahuddin’s listing during a meeting of the committee in April this year, but even the discussion on India’s proposal had been delayed for months after the original request was made in September last year. During that time, the 1267 committee met more than 15 times, and agreed to add about 30 new names to the sanctioned list. The listing means all member States must cut off the entity’s finances, travel and access to arms.

The request is a part of an Indian government initiative for years against Salahuddin, who is wanted for several Hizbul Mujahideen attacks. The United Jihad Council that he heads includes the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad. In 2008, just two weeks after the Mumbai terror attacks, Salahuddin was photographed praying along with 26/11 key accused Zaki-Ur-Rehman Lakhvi. The Indian request to list him came after a public speech by Salahuddin in Muzaffarabad in July 2014, where he called on al-Qaeda and Taliban cadres “to fight Indian security forces in Kashmir”. Diplomats said they are puzzled by China’s move in the case as it has asked for more proof of Salahuddin’s links with the Al-Qaida. “Why should China have any opinion in the Salahuddin case, if it isn’t to help Pakistan,” one official asked, while speaking to The Hindu.

While Chinese officials seldom speak directly on the issue, the Chinese government has long maintained its close ties with Pakistan and coordination at the UN. In an interview last September, Chinese Ambassador to India Le Yucheng had told an agency, “Pakistan is also a victim of terrorism… China, India and Pakistan ought to work together to deal with the problem of terrorism and root out the cause of terrorism.”

Meanwhile, Salahuddin’s case is not the only one in which Indian proposals have faced resistance from China, sources said. In December 2014, India had issued several letters both to the UN and to the Pakistani government asking how LeT and Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed, who is on the 1267 list, was able to fund massive rallies in Lahore and Karachi. Most recently, last month, India’s Permanent Representative Asoke Mukerji had written a letter to the then Chairman of the Committee James McLay (since replaced), asking the 1267 committee to investigate who had paid or stood guarantee for Zaki-Ur-Rehman Lakhvi’s bail, as he too is on the sanctions list, and can have no recourse to funds. The issue is also pending with the 1267 committee, which has met twice already in May, without taking up the Indian proposals, allegedly after interventions by the Chinese Permanent Representative.

In the joint statement between Mr. Modi and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang issued on May 15, both sides committed to fighting terror and “urged all countries and entities to work sincerely to disrupt terrorist networks and their financing, and stop cross-border movement of terrorists”. The words gave hope, one official said to The Hindu: “But we are yet to see China’s words translating on the ground in the UN.”

Despite Beijing bonhomie, China blocks India move for UN ban on Salahuddin: Officials - The Hindu

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In retaliation does it serve any purpose for India in "stalling" Chinese UN moves on Xinjaing militants?
 
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In retaliation does it serve any purpose for India in "stalling" Chinese UN moves on Xinjaing militants?

India is not a UNSC permanent member, obviously.

Also, didn't the Indian Defense Minister just openly admit that India is using "terrorists against terrorists"?

Basically an open admission that India is sponsoring terrorists?

Not surprising after Indira Gandhi trained LTTE terrorists on Indian soil against Sri Lanka.
 
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China keeps pushing India away, then India will not have any other option rather than to side with the west when time arrives. Let us see.

There's no convincing evidence that Salahudeen is a terrorist. We won't allow regional progress to be derailed by spurious, libellious accusations and witch hunts.

So killing soldiers and doing terrorist attacks do not constitute him as a terrorist? His group Hizbul Mujahideen are involved in a lot of attacks on our soldiers and civilians. Will you guys be talking the same way about Xinjiang terrorists? You wont allow Religional progress to be derailed? Haha China keeps pushing India away and make an enemy out of no body in this region will progress.
 
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India is not a UNSC permanent member, obviously.

Also, didn't the Indian Defense Minister just openly admit that India is using "terrorists against terrorists"?

Basically an open admission that India is sponsoring terrorists?

Not surprising after Indira Gandhi trained LTTE terrorists on Indian soil against Sri Lanka.

They are a bunch of stupid cry babies. All they can do is be jealous and more jealous. China they cannot compete with, even in their wildest dreams. And Pakistan is building a highway right through the land it captured in 1948, with Indians doing nothing but watching.

So let them suffer for all their hate.
 
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India is not a UNSC permanent member, obviously.

Also, didn't the Indian Defense Minister just openly admit that India is using "terrorists against terrorists"?

Basically an open admission that India is sponsoring terrorists?

Not surprising after Indira Gandhi trained LTTE terrorists on Indian soil against Sri Lanka.


He said fight thorn with thorn. Anyway even if he had said fight terrorist with terrorist it is not the same as fight terrorism with terrorism. So again, if you think fight terrorist with terrorist is what he said does that mean you consider Pakistan as a terrorist nation? Because he meant kill terrorist with terrorist and in Pakistan who gets killed cause of terrorism is Pakistani army guys and not any terrorists. What he meant by this is just the anti terror ops in Kashmir.
 
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India is not a UNSC permanent member, obviously.

Also, didn't the Indian Defense Minister just openly admit that India is using "terrorists against terrorists"?

Basically an open admission that India is sponsoring terrorists?

Not surprising after Indira Gandhi trained LTTE terrorists on Indian soil against Sri Lanka.
They pushed our country 30 years back all because of their stupid paranoia about USA but now they are an US ally and paranoid about Chinese investments. We have a retarded neighbour.
 
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“Why should China have any opinion in the Salahuddin case, if it isn’t to help Pakistan,” one official asked, while speaking to The Hindu.

@Horus what is Pakistan's position on this man Salahuddin?

It seems India is really desperate to indict several Pakistani citizens (not just this one but many others) without the evidence to back it up.
 
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Actually it was India who attacked China, while we were in the middle of the worst famine in our entire history.

From India's own internal military report, the Henderson-Brooks report:

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war - The Times of India

And we paid for it. That was a long time back. I am not denying this fact. There has been no major war after that between China and India. The present geopolitical scenario is not the same as 50 -70 yrs ago. If China wants to be unopposed against the west China needs many friends in the east to back them up. As it is, you guys have issues with most of your neighbours cause of SCS and all, it is very unwise for China to make more enemies. All China and India has are border disputes which can be solved other than that all is fine, both countries were relatively peaceful for thousands of years. But helping a terrorist China is jut asking for the hate and backlash diplomatically that is.
 
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They are a bunch of stupid cry babies. All they can do is be jealous and more jealous. China they cannot compete with, even in their wildest dreams. And Pakistan is building a highway right through the land it captured in 1948, with Indians doing nothing but watching.

So let them suffer for all their hate.




Watch us put multiple dams in place on the Indus River. Who cares about treaties, if you don't adhere to anything then why should we? This road being built thru Azad Kashmir and Akshai Chin will nullify both China's and Pakistan claims once and for all.
 
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They are a bunch of stupid cry babies. All they can do is be jealous and more jealous. China they cannot compete with, even in their wildest dreams. And Pakistan is building a highway right through the land it captured in 1948, with Indians doing nothing but watching.

So let them suffer for all their hate.

They are not suffering. They are gleeful that India already had space travel eons ago. It's a feel good tactic. Their response to any policy setback is to recreate history to make them feel better.
 
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Watch us put multiple dams in place on the Indus River. Who cares about treaties, if you don't adhere to anything then why should we? This road being built thru Azad Kashmir and Akshai Chin will nullify both China's and Pakistan claims once and for all.

How do you figure that?
 
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And we paid for it. That was a long time back. I am not denying this fact. There has been no major war after that between China and India. The present geopolitical scenario is not the same as 50 -70 yrs ago. If China wants to be unopposed against the west China needs many friends in the east to back them up. As it is, you guys have issues with most of your neighbours cause of SCS and all, it is very unwise for China to make more enemies. All China and India has are border disputes which can be solved other than that all is fine, both countries were relatively peaceful for thousands of years. But helping a terrorist China is jut asking for the hate and backlash diplomatically that is.


If China had solved it's land border dispute with all its neighbors except India. India has not resolve any dispute with any of its neighbors, what does that say about the India/China dispute?
 
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