China should strengthen force on Indian border, researcher says

[beijingwalker]

yes off course, the entire world hails PLA bravery... when japanese were romping mother china, the people's "liberation" army decided ... it's not our job to "liberate" china... Let's go on a sweet LONG MARCH.

Shame on COWARDS.

then, 1962.. the "bravery" on the "brave" PLA vanished in a "hit-and-run" operation. Fighting with 8:1 numerical superiority .. fighting with deceit as the main weapon.... YET... a "hit-and-run".

whatever lows, the pakistani army is hitting . ala kargil ... and ala recent events..... they didn't reach the bottoms of humiliation reached by PLA, atleast when they fought in 1948 and 1965.

The only battle the PLA has won since it's inception in 1930s: The Battle of Tiananmen Square, 1989.

Yes, in 1989, the PLA tanks did win.. but over whom.... : common chinese.

Shame on PLA.

WW2,We are the victorious side that's why China has a seat in UN security concil,the elite group of the winners of the WW2,and we executed Japanese war criminals after tried them and publicly humiliated them,we won they lost and signed the instrument of surrender,end of the story.1989 that's a riot and the government did the right thing,that's why China can have this miraculours economic takeoff after that year.that makes the achievement that we are enjoying now happen.and we dont have the tradition of mowing down with machine gunor blowing up our leaders into pieces.

So, you've already avenged the japanese .. the rape on Nanking ... the rape of China?

Or you've left the japanese to die of oldage... for they have grown old and old... waiting for you.

no,we tried and killed them long before I was born,I dont have to wait a bit.

 

[beijingwalker]

 

[3Idiots]

WW2,We are the victorious side that's why China has a seat in UN security concil,the elite group of the winners of the WW2,and we executed Japanese war criminals after tried them and publicly humiliated them,we won they lost and signed the instrument of surrender,end of the story.1989 that's a riot and the government did the right thing,that's why China can have this miraculours economic takeoff after that year.that makes the achievement that we are enjoying now happen.and we dont have the tradition of mowing down with machine gunor blowing up our leaders into pieces.

You are used to eating crumps thrown by USA .. keep up the habit.

The "liberation" army did not liberate china... USA forced the japanese to spare and pardon all the chinese slaves under japanese overlordship.

That is the reason: the current PRC doesn't have any "Independence Day". After all, who wants to celebrate or even recall that national shame...

PRC does not celebrate victory over japanese ... and they decided to not observing the "Day of National Shame".
Their wish. !!

Then... UNSC ... PRC got the next crumps from USA (nixon) in 1971 ... It was under US wishes that PRC was kicked out or admitted in UN. Well.... don't know ... if it's shame for PRC .. or for UN as an organization as well.

Congratulations .... on this next crump thrown at PRC in 1971.

No wonder, Sun Tzu said.. "Even if you get raped, DON'T admit it. Call it sex. Say, actually we enjoyed it"

PLA dutifully follows what Sun Tzu said.

 

[beijingwalker]

and we are nice people ,we are not barbaric ,so we are very nice to their orphans

Japanese orphans

Ran's experience was not unique. Thousands of Japanese orphans were left behind in China at the end of World War II. While some of them were offspring of Japanese soldiers, most of them came from families that were organized by the Japanese imperialist government to migrate to northeast China.

According to incomplete statistics, more than 4,000 of the Japanese orphans were adopted by Chinese families.

The "liberation" army did not liberate china... USA forced the japanese to spare and pardon all the chinese slaves under japanese overlordship.

haha,slave mentality,we were and are always independence,why do we need a independence day,does Russia have an independence day after defeating Germany?we have victory day instead.your typical Indian slave mentality,lol..

 

[beijingwalker]

as for Japanese POWs,they commited war crimes and they were defeated,they surrendered to China and laid down their arms and unarmed soldiers were totally at China's mercy.we did execute their war criminals and locked thousands of them up in numerous POW camps set up all aross China,but generally we were very nice to them and show them how to behave like a human,by the mid 1970s we almost release all of them and we also adopted 4000 Japanese war orphans.

 

[3Idiots]

haha,slave mentality,we were and are always independence,why do we need a independence day,does Russia have an independence day after defeating Germany?we have victory day instead.your typical Indian slave mentality,lol..

Trying to compare Russia .. with PRC??

Do you know what happened on May 2, 1945??

Soviet Reg Flag was flying over the Reichstag ... and Hitler committed suicide.

Did the peepul's "liberation" army dive into Tokyo ??

peepul's liberation army overran the royal palace .. flew their flag .. or kill the Emperor of Imperial Japan..

boy.. CPC tells you it's own stories .. which appear only in the "chinese" language.... don't make it awkward for CPC .. by repeating the "chinese language flukes" on an English language forum.

 

[beijingwalker]

We were allies and all together we won that war,that's why we have a seat in UN Secrurity concil.even US didn't overrun Berlin or Japan,they just surrendered to the allies,can you kill people who laid down their arms?and China was a major fighting force in the war,we tied down millions of Japanese troops in China so our allies could enjoy bigger superamacy over Japan.and I m not CCP,It's very stupid to think that all Chinese people are CCP.

 

[Luffy 500]

China always has been peaceful & never showed any aggression even in 1961. All its acts including 1961 war was reactionary self-defence against chankyan vultures which has a involuntary trait of poking the cool & calm panda to get some attention. Even in this, it proves that chinese naively trust Indian diplomatic gestures risking getting back stabbed by the deceptionist chankyans. The only reason chankyans haven't made this blunder of attacking china is because they know that they R insignificant compared to the rising super power. China better show some justifiable aggression for peace & stability of asia.

 

[beijingwalker]

China always has been peaceful & never showed any aggression even in 1961. All its acts including 1961 war was reactionary self-defence against chankyan vultures which has a involuntary trait of poking the cool & calm panda to get some attention. Even in this, it proves that chinese naively trust Indian diplomatic gestures risking getting back stabbed by the deceptionist chankyans. The only reason chankyans haven't made this blunder of attacking china is because they know that they & insignificant compared to the rising super power. China better show some justifiable aggression for peace & stability of asia.

exactly ,India just got what it deserved in 1962.

The Forward Policy

According to James Barnard Calvin of the U.S. Navy, in 1959, India started sending Indian troops and border patrols into disputed areas. This program created both skirmishes and deteriorating relations between India and China.[8] The aim of this policy was to create outposts behind advancing Chinese troops to interdict their supplies, forcing them north of the disputed line.[8][24][27][30] There were eventually 60 such outposts, including 43 north of the McMahon Line, to which India claimed sovereignty.[8][13] China viewed this as further confirmation of Indian expansionist plans directed towards Tibet. According to the Indian official history, implementation of the Forward Policy was intended to provide evidence of Indian occupation in the previously unoccupied region through which Chinese troops had been patrolling. Kaul was confident, through contact with Indian Intelligence and CIA information, that China would not react with force.[17] Indeed, at first the PLA simply withdrew, but eventually Chinese forces began to counter-encircle the Indian positions which clearly encroached into the north of McMahon Line. This led to a tit-for-tat Indian reaction, with each force attempting to outmanoeuver the other. However, despite the escalating nature of the dispute, the two forces withheld from engaging each other directly.[2]

Chinese attention was diverted for a time by the military activity of the Nationalists on Taiwan, but on 23 June the U.S. assured China that a Nationalist invasion would not be permitted.[31] China's heavy artillery facing Taiwan could then be moved to Tibet.[32] It took China six to eight months to gather the resources needed for the war, according to Anil Athale, author of the official Indian history.[32] The Chinese sent a large quantity of non-military supplies to Tibet through the Indian port of Calcutta.[32]

 

[Luffy 500]

@beijingwalker , what can be expected from a country that dreams of an empire stretching from cambodia to Iran based on past myths. Their akhand bharat lunney ideology haven't changed a bit and U can easily grasp it by the commentaries of some of their strategic think tanks. They only understand the art of spanking which china should be able to bestow quite effectively if their delusions gets the better of them like the current Indian instigated LOC crisis.

 

[3Idiots]

We were allies and all together we won that war,that's why we have a seat in UN Secrurity concil.even US didn't overrun Berlin or Japan (laugh),they just surrendered to the allies,can you kill people who laid down their arms?and China was a major fighting force in the war,we tied down millions of Japanese troops in China so our allies could enjoy bigger superamacy over Japan.and I m not CCP,It's very stupid to think that all Chinese people are CCP.

... and you find all this normal ....

I don't need to add anything, but wikipedia isn't a bad starting point for re-education.

Operation Overlord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battle of Berlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't fool yourself that PRC is same as Soviet Union ... probably, somewhat comparable to France (at best ).

WW2 was won by USA, Soviet Union and UK.... the victory came after both France and China were defeated.

France is humble in acknowledging ... PRC hides it by suppressing free flow of information to the people living in territories controlled by it. Ask any outside chinese, at the very least .. don't be in denial.

 

[INDIC]

what is Agni-5 test?

Read globaltimes if you missed it. But why was China trying to convince the west that the actual range of Agni 5 is 8000km.

 

[beijingwalker]

... and you find all this normal ....

I don't need to add anything, but wikipedia isn't a bad starting point for re-education.

Operation Overlord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battle of Berlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't fool yourself that PRC is same as Soviet Union ... probably, somewhat comparable to France (at best ).

WW2 was won by USA, Soviet Union and UK.... the victory came after both France and China were defeated.

France is humble in acknowledging ... PRC hides it by suppressing free flow of information to the people living in territories controlled by it. Ask any outside chinese, at the very least .. don't be in denial.

what do you mean defeated.France was defeated and signed surrender while China never did,millions of Chinese regular army fought Japanese to a stalemate and Japan in its heytime only managed to control less than one third of China.the war was far far from over.among all the Japanse soldiers killed in WW2,39% died in China.so where did you get the conclusion that China was defeated?

Read globaltimes if you missed it. But why was China trying to convince the west that the actual range of Agni 5 is 8000km.

Sorry I dont read globaltimes,what is that?popular in India?and who cares about the range,our's must have a much better range.

 

[beijingwalker]

some basic facts

In the middle and later stages of the war (after 1939) when the Japanese advanced to Central China, the Nationalists were very effective at fighting the Japanese. For instance, the Chinese fought the Japanese to a stalemate in Shangsha in 3 major battles (the battles of Changsha) in the span of 4 years (1939-1942). Note that this was NOT some guerilla fighting involving a company or two, but huge fighting involving army groups that totaled in close to half million troops from both sides in each one of these battles.

Further, the Chinese fought Japan on a second front in Burma and India. Nationalists sent the Chinese Expeditionary Forces to Burma/ India in 1942 and fought the Japanese in Southeastern China in 2 campaigns for 3 years 'til the end of the war. This was also large battles between army groups. China and Allied forces (mainly British colonial forces) lost badly in the 1st campaign. However, Chinese forces alone came back and defeated the Japanese thoroughly and effectively in the second campaign. The Chinese forces were able to push Japanese almost completely out of Burma in 1944/45.

Japanese casualties
wikipedia

The Japanese recorded around 1.1 to 1.9 million military casualties (which include killed, wounded and missing). The official death-toll according to the Japan Defense Ministry is 480,000 men, which some historians claim is an understatement due to the length of the war.The combined Chinese forces claimed to have killed at most 1.77 million Japanese soldiers during the eight-year war.

Another source from Hilary Conroy claim that a total of 447,000 Japanese soldiers died in China during the Second Sino-Japanese War. Of the 1,130,000 Imperial Japanese Army soldiers who died during World War II, 39 percent died in China.

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

What was the strength of IA in 1962 and what weapons did the soldiers used?

What was the strength of PLA in 1962.


Indians acknowledge that we were beated in 1962. We were beaten badly. But this ain't 1962.
As and when China will attack, we will be defending our territory, so we will have the advantage. We just have to maintain a minimum deterrence while China needs to maintain maximum war preparation.

Just having lots of shiny weapons doesn't translate that you will win all the wars. Ask the Americans how they fared in Vietnam despite being a superpower.

@beijingwalker , what can be expected from a country that dreams of an empire stretching from cambodia to Iran based on past myths.

Talking about China, right.