China should strengthen force on Indian border, researcher says

[INDIC]

really,are we busy having shooting match like what you are doing along the LOC at this moment?

I knew you will mention it but Pakistan is now extremely weak with internal turmoil and we can focus fully on Sino-India border.

 

[beijingwalker]

I knew you will mention it but Pakistan is now extremely weak with internal turmoil and we can focus fully on Sino-India border.

How can you focus when Maoist rebels kill your soldiers very now and then.

 

[SwatCat]

How can you focus when Maoist rebels kill your soldiers very now and then.

Soldiers are not used against Maoist, they are Central reserve police force.

 

[INDIC]

How can you focus when Maoist rebels kill your soldiers very now and then.

Indian army is not fighting the Maoists, secondly Maoist rebels are not that strong to cause chaos in India.

 

[PRINCE_THE_SHOWSTOPPER]

YES YES it is called Arunachal as you wish and I suggest my chinese fellows call it like this but what I want to say is that this district is more likely to be a part of China for its people look the same with innerland chinese.

look doesn't matter bro (or sis :uncertain..the people of arunachal speaks hindi,and are embraced with the indian culture.Religiously they are hindus,buddhists and christians.they follow the indian culture.... they will never accept hte chinese people there

 

[Diamond_Gold]

look doesn't matter bro (or sis :uncertain..the people of arunachal speaks hindi,and are embraced with the indian culture.Religiously they are hindus,buddhists and christians.they follow the indian culture.... they will never accept hte chinese people there

North-East may well be lost due to the wrong type of tolerance




By Rajeev Dhavan

PUBLISHED: 23:11 GMT, 19 August 2012 | UPDATED: 23:11 GMT, 19 August 2012



India's much touted picture of tolerance includes its tolerance of prejudice, murder, rapes and killings. Its homage to 'we the people' has become a 'we, some of the people'.


If our conscience is shocked, it is for a few days until the next crisis or some hastily drafted Accord. We have never understood the North-East or even wanted to. We simply adopted the 'protectionism' of the Empire in the Government of India Act, 1935, and reproduced its paternalism.


The North-East was bound to India by the business of tea and timber. On 14 August, 1947, the Nagas declared their independence. Manipur came to India virtually by conquest. The Nagas claimed to be never conquered. Nehru thought these 'nations' (for that, indeed they were) could not survive independently. In the Constituent Assembly, there was a Special Committee on Assam including Gopinath Bardoloi, Revd Nicholls Roy, R.N. Brahma, Mayang Nokcha and A.V. Thakkar.





North East migrants - who fled Bengaluru after rumours of attacks - are seen on their arrival at Guwahati railway station

The Committee Report of 1947 spoke of Assam as 'highly malarial with other diseases… (without) civilising facilities… consisting of simple (exploitable) people... (with) prevalent superstitious and harmful practices, aboriginal life and customs and institutions... contain(ing) elements of value'.


The key words for the North-East were advancement and progress. They were expected to prosper in an India leaving their 'insularity' behind.


The Constitution's protective and paternalistic vision condemned them to temporariness until they joined modernity. India never wavered from this vision except in one important respect.


The North-East was militarised on a 'shoot to kill' Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act, 1958, enacted to put down rebellions. The India 'loves you' slogan was drowned in 'insurrection' and expensive doses of counter-terrorism. We know from Kashmir that counter-terrorism easily expands into state terrorism.


The creation of the seven sisters out of Assam namely Nagaland (1962) and Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram and Tripura and Arunachal (1971) was imperfect - with some vulnerable indigenous democratic structures for Assam, Meghalaya, Mizoram and Tripura which were to receive aid and militarisation from the Union.


Eroded by India's neglect, Indian business and globalisation, their cultural integrity was also eroded by demography, migrants, refugees and internal displacees. The BJP likes to emphasise the 'Muslim' part more forcefully as a Hindutva chant.


Successive Union Governments seemed to think that the answer lay in hasty accords. The Naga Accord of 1947 with Governor Hydari promised development "according to their free wishes.


For the moment, we are concerned with the Assam Accord of August 15, 1985, which used a cut-off for regularising foreigners: pre-1966 (regularised), 1966-71 (detectable as foreigners), post-1971 (to be expelled).


The BJP Bodo Award of 2003 comprised 3,082 villages in four contiguous districts to create the Bodo Territorial Council and provide aid, but safeguarding the interests of non-tribals in the matter of land (if entitled).


Frankly, the BJP got it wrong. 'Hindu' non-tribals were sought to be protected. Amongst the tribals, the Nyishis and Bodo Peace accords of 2002 and 2012 were more significant.


Whether the Bangladeshis are 'migrants' or 'refugees' needs determination. But the demographic integrity of the North-East needs to be protected. They cannot lose the tribal land special to them. International conventions protect the rights of indigenous peoples.


We cannot go America's way of allowing tribal land to be taken over and make native peoples retreat into reservations. America boasted 'How the West was won'. India may have to grieve 'How the East was lost'.


A moot question is whether all this is consistent with the constitutionally guaranteed freedom to move and settle in any part of India under Article 19 of the Constitution?

The answer is 'yes'. We overlook that Article 19(5) says that these movement and settlement rights of people can be curtailed 'for the protection of the interest of any Schedule Tribe'.


This should apply to the tribes in the North-East. But this requires a law. No government wants to make a law to protect the tribal integrity of tribals.


Decades of indifference, inaction and ineptitude foretold this violence. Over the years, state and local violence in India have displaced six lakh people in Kashmir and the North-East. In July- August 2012 the government delayed and abdicated its duty to protect.


The media watched; and distinguished journalists protested that coverage was hindered by the 'tyranny of distance'.


The violence spread to Mumbai, some Muslims violent, some protesting for peace. Bangalore, Hyderabad Pune and Chennai went into violence and panic. The exodus started, with 16,000 going from Karnataka alone.


A picture showed a Muslim at Bangalore Station pleading with the North- East folk to stay. But they were determined to leave jobs, education and relationships. The government blamed the panic on bulk SMSes and MMSes which were reduced to five at a go and of not more than 20kb data till September 2. India does not want to understand the North-East but simply to rule it by army contingents and accords.


It does not want to preserve tribal integrity. It has to understand that while the North-East people have the right to move and settle in every part of India, the reverse is not the case. This is the product of our wise elliptical federalism.


Nor does it understand the need for recompense. There is a Communal and Targeted Violence (Access to Justice and Reparations) Bill 2011. Enact it. Indians west of Siliguri should ask what they can do to deserve the North-East.


As for people from the North-East in mainland India, we must beg them to stay, and protect them.

The writer is a Supreme Court lawyer










Link: North-East may well be lost due to the wrong type of tolerance | Mail Online

BTW, how many hindu illegal immigrants have your nation managed to inject into your newly found ill gotten lands?


Disgusting Indians (aka. Bapus now)! A morally brankrupt nation full of unshameful and dispicable liars!!!

LOLOL...

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

YES YES it is called Arunachal as you wish and I suggest my chinese fellows call it like this but what I want to say is that this district is more likely to be a part of China for its people look the same with innerland chinese.

So?? Entire Mongolia looks same as you so does koreas and japan!
and aruanchal is not a district it is a state comprising many districts out of which only two had historical links with tibet, the rest were more or less under ahom control.

BTW, how many hindu illegal immigrants have your nation managed to inject into your newly found ill gotten lands?


Disgusting Indians (aka. Bapus now)! A morally brankrupt nation full of unshameful and dispicable liars!!!

LOLOL...

None, unlike in Kashmir. Indian law doesn't allow non north easterners to settel in the north east. On the other hand, millions of illegal muslim bangaldeshis have infiltrated the north east.

BTW, assam is a majority hindu state since time immemorial so is manipur and tripura. Know the facts before posting your online rants.

 

[beijingwalker]

Unlike India,China doesnt have land disputes with any other countries except for India,we have some small rocks issue in the ocean with some countries,but nothing very big.But India has big land dispute with big Pakistan and China.and India itself is ravaged by different groups of domestic rebels.

 

[INDIC]

Unlike India,China doesnt have land disputes with any other countries except for India,we have some small rocks issue in the ocean with some countries,but nothing very big.But India has big land dispute with big Pakistan and China.and India itself is ravaged by different groups of domestic rebels.

What about Xinjiang, Tibet as well as Taiwan.

 

[Diamond_Gold]

So?? Entire Mongolia looks same as you so does koreas and japan!
and aruanchal is not a district it is a state comprising many districts out of which only two had historical links with tibet, the rest were more or less under ahom control.




None, unlike in Kashmir. Indian law doesn't allow non north easterners to settel in the north east. On the other hand, millions of illegal muslim bangaldeshis have infiltrated the north east.

BTW, assam is a majority hindu state since time immemorial so is manipur and tripura. Know the facts before posting your online rants.

Who you are kidding?
"assam is a majority hindu state since time immemorial" Justify by who, some Bapu again, is it?

From the 15th century onwards, the only original people inhabiting Assam are mainly Tai and Koch, ain't that true?


Assam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ahom Kingdom, c. 1826

Two later dynasties, the Ahoms and the Koch left a larger impact. The Ahoms, a Tai group, ruled Assam for nearly 600 years (1228–1826 AD) and the Koch, a Tibeto-Burmese, established sovereignty in c. 1510 AD...



LOLOL...

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

Who you are kidding?
"assam is a majority hindu state since time immemorial" Justify by who, some Bapu again, is it?

From the 15th century onwards, the only original people inhabiting Assam are mainly Tai and Koch, ain't that true?


Assam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ahom Kingdom, c. 1826

Two later dynasties, the Ahoms and the Koch left a larger impact. The Ahoms, a Tai group, ruled Assam for nearly 600 years (1228–1826 AD) and the Koch, a Tibeto-Burmese, established sovereignty in c. 1510 AD...



LOLOL...

Tais are hindus. Ahoms are hindus. The Bodos are hindus, the meiteis are hindus.


Hope that summarises.

What makes you think they aren't hindus.

Anyway, i never take a guy seriously who use "lol" in each and everytime.

Tip: use "hahahaha" atleast there is a feeling that you are laughing and not typing some internet gibberish.

From the same article you posted :-

Ancient Assam, known as Kamarupa, was ruled by powerful dynasties: the Varmanas (c. 350–650 AD), the Salstambhas (Xalostombho, c. 655–900 AD) and the Kamarupa-Palas (c. 900–1100 AD). In the reign of the Varman king, Bhaskar Varman(c. 600–650 AD), the Chinese traveler Xuan Zang visited the region and recorded his travels. Later, after weakening and disintegration (after the Kamarupa-Palas), the Kamarupa tradition was somewhat extended till c. 1255 AD by the Lunar I (c. 1120–1185 AD) and Lunar II (c. 1155–1255 AD) dynasties.[13] Ruled by three dynasties Varman, Pala and Salstambhas from their capitals in present-day Guwahati (Pragjyotishpura, Durjaya) and Tezpur (Haruppeswara) respectively, it covered the entire Brahmaputra river valley and, at times, North Bengal and parts of Bangladesh.

Now ,

Varman dynasty : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varman_dynasty
Salstambhas (Mlechchha dynasty) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mlechchha_dynasty
Pala dynasty (Kamarupa) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pala_dynasty_(Kamarupa)

All the three ancient dynasties are hindus. I need not even go and post about later ahom kingdoms.

Read the article you posted see for yourself that since 350–650 AD assam has been ruled by the hindus.

the "lololos" you post are on you. hahahahah

 

[INDIC]

Who you are kidding?
"assam is a majority hindu state since time immemorial" Justify by who, some Bapu again, is it?

From the 15th century onwards, the only original people inhabiting Assam are mainly Tai and Koch, ain't that true?


Assam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ahom Kingdom, c. 1826

Two later dynasties, the Ahoms and the Koch left a larger impact. The Ahoms, a Tai group, ruled Assam for nearly 600 years (1228–1826 AD) and the Koch, a Tibeto-Burmese, established sovereignty in c. 1510 AD...



LOLOL...

Mahabharat mentions about ancient cities in Assam like Pragjyotishpura and Kamrupa as well as the Brahmaputra river.

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

Mahabharat mentions about ancient cities in Assam like Pragjyotishpura and Kamrupa as well as the Brahmaputra river.

Leave the historical text. Even the link he provided states that Ahom was ruled by hindus since 350 AD. He thinks just because they belong to tibeto-burmic stock they can't be hindu. Can anyone get any more stupid?

 

[beijingwalker]

What about Xinjiang, Tibet as well as Taiwan.

are there any fighting in Xinjiang and Tibet?Xinjiang some years ago got some killing and bombing,but more is mostly very quiet and Tibetan monks sometimes burn themselves to death and that's it.Taiwan has a pro China president and situation is very stable cross strait.we dont always killing news like you do on our headline news,very very rarely,but in your country that's so common.

 

[INDIC]

look doesn't matter bro (or sis :uncertain..the people of arunachal speaks hindi,and are embraced with the indian culture.Religiously they are hindus,buddhists and christians.they follow the indian culture.... they will never accept hte chinese people there

Hans ruined the Tibetan culture, when Dalai Lama landed in India after fleeing Tibet whole Tawang town came to greet him.

are there any fighting in Xinjiang and Tibet?Xinjiang some years ago got some killing and bombing,but more is mostly very quiet and Tibetan monks sometimes burn themselves to death and that's it.Taiwan has a pro China president and situation is very stable cross strait.we dont always killing news like you do on our headline news,very very rarely,but in your country that's so common.

But Taiwan is still hostile. China is a communist country with strict censorship. The Uighur militants even have links with Al Qaeda.