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[mike2000]

Don't waste my time with jingo claims..............no big company uses huawei chip as of now except huawei itself.
And it uses exactly same specs as samsung exynos with 4 cores of cortex a15 and 4 cores of cortex a7.
Even gpu is same mali 628.

Yes making it is commendable though.

But tegra k1 is much ahead than snapdragon 805,kirin and exynos especially its gpu

Ahahah...well said bro. In fact you don't even need to explain yourself that much/go into much details.
A simple quote from the thread will be enough, which I quote:

Huawei is not aiming to export its chips and does not see them as a stand-alone product, the 21st Century Business Herald quoted Xu Zhijun, deputy president of Huawei, as saying.

Xu said, "The strategy we adopt is one plus one or one plus N," which means that for every HiSilicon chip that Huawei incorporates in its products, it will integrate one chip or more from other suppliers.

The reason for this is that Huawei doesn't want to stir concerns with Qualcomm or other industry giants, fearing such a situation might affect chip supplies, the Herald reported.
Huawei was taught a tough lesson in March 2012 when it unveiled its quad-core processor K3V2 and said it would use the new chips in its Ascend D smartphones.
The new mobile phones appeared on the market several months later than planned. A source close to Huawei told the Herald that the delay was at least partly down to the high-profile release of the chips making its screen supplier Samsung nervous and leading it to stall the supply.
"We can only lead US companies in sectors the size of a needle. But it is out of the question for our lead to expand to sectors the size of a matchstick," said Ren Zhengfei, Huawei's founder and CEO, during a speech earlier this year when publishing the firm's 2013 annual report.

This alone says it all, DONT MESS WITH AMERICAN EAGLE and its tech companies. Well not until you have reached parity with them.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Again same straw man argument!!
Its not huawei's invention.

Its designed by ARM,UK and leased to anyone willing to make a chip.
The chip is pretty good i concede but not revolutionary

ARM is an instruction set architecture. Basically all chips on the smart phone market are ARM chips. Tegra K1 is also based on ARM architecture. That does not mean their physical design is the same - there are many physical design realizations for the same instruction set architecture.

 

[he-man]

ARM is an instruction set architecture. Basically all chips on the smart phone market are ARM chips. Tegra K1 is also based on ARM architecture. That does not mean their physical design is the same - there are many physical design realizations for the same instruction set architecture.

Yes i know that

 

[Genesis]

@he-man

This chip is a step in the right direction, it's about building the infrastructure, and talent pool first.

What do I mean, Indian scientists are pretty important in the US, but back in India they can't make a LCA work right. Does India make people stupid? Obviously not.

What happened is India doesn't have the necessary infrastructure, talent pool, and teaching staff to make it possible. How can an Indian in India be as good as their Americans when in University, they have profs who have no experience in said industry due to it not existing, how can Indian graduates find experience due to the firm not existing or the senior staff very raw, how can a worker conduct research in good speed if he has nothing to base it on, and so on so forth.


This Chip will create talent who has worked around it's creation and be able to pass on their experience onto new generations, has already set up the funding, research centers and everything else needed to continue it.


Right now it doesn't matter how good or bad it is, just as long as it exists.


I can still remember, though very young at the time, people saying China should stop cause Type 53 frigates are lame and should stop or the JH-7 and J-10s are stupid and we should stop, that we never make anything of note and we suck.


Now look at it, J-10B, J-11B, J16, J15, J-20, J-31, all possible due to the earlier birds, while the emerging Type 54a and b, with 52C/D and 55, makes China a naval force to be reckon with.


The thing I learn is time goes by fast, 10 years sounds long, 20 years sounds far, but here we are, J-20 and type 55 on the verge of induction.

Have patients.

 

[he-man]

@he-man

This chip is a step in the right direction, it's about building the infrastructure, and talent pool first.

What do I mean, Indian scientists are pretty important in the US, but back in India they can't make a LCA work right. Does India make people stupid? Obviously not.

What happened is India doesn't have the necessary infrastructure, talent pool, and teaching staff to make it possible. How can an Indian in India be as good as their Americans when in University, they have profs who have no experience in said industry due to it not existing, how can Indian graduates find experience due to the firm not existing or the senior staff very raw, how can a worker conduct research in good speed if he has nothing to base it on, and so on so forth.


This Chip will create talent who has worked around it's creation and be able to pass on their experience onto new generations, has already set up the funding, research centers and everything else needed to continue it.


Right now it doesn't matter how good or bad it is, just as long as it exists.


I can still remember, though very young at the time, people saying China should stop cause Type 53 frigates are lame and should stop or the JH-7 and J-10s are stupid and we should stop, that we never make anything of note and we suck.


Now look at it, J-10B, J-11B, J16, J15, J-20, J-31, all possible due to the earlier birds, while the emerging Type 54a and b, with 52C/D and 55, makes China a naval force to be reckon with.


The thing I learn is time goes by fast, 10 years sounds long, 20 years sounds far, but here we are, J-20 and type 55 on the verge of induction.

Have patients.

I agree with u man.
Its a great achievement,,,20 nm is no joke,recent iphone 6 a8 processor is 20 nm too.

But i was giving a comparison and it has to be unbiased

 

[Genesis]

I agree with u man.
Its a great achievement,,,20 nm is no joke,recent iphone 6 a8 processor is 20 nm too.

But i was giving a comparison and it has to be unbiased

well yea, don't underestimate the Americans, why should we be able to catch up so fast, we are not the chosen people we must also walk the roads Americans did to make it that far.

The thing to remember for these sort of announcements like the OS, and this chip and other things, is as long as the first step is taken, the rest is a lot simpler, relatively, sort of.

 

[xunzi]

Everything is about building an ecosystem. Huawei didn't offer their chip because of the fear that supplier like Samsung will delay their LCD panel to Huawei for making their product. This is the shortsighted of our firm because we focus too much on short-term profit. This mentality must be changed. To get up to speed and breakaway from foreign blackmail, Huawei must cooperate and partnership with other, even to rival to create its own ecosystem and play supplier against one another. Unfortunately our LCD technology is maturing and will eventually catch up, and that is when Huawei Kirin will expand.

 

[kawaraj]

Huawei shall share it's chip with other phone makers, that will significantly ecourage the competition in the industry and lower the cost of phones.

Mate 7 looks cool. It's not on sale in Japan yet.

 

[cirr]

China completes design of Tianzhou cargo spacecraft

Sep 09, 2014

Long March 7 launch vehicle at Tianjin Test Facility. Photo: China Aerospace Science & Technology Corporation


BEIJING (BNS): Chinese scientists and engineers will begin building a production-model of ‘Tianzhou’ having completed the design for the nation’s first cargo spacecraft.

The design and technology of the unmanned spacecraft have been approved by an expert panel from China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp and the China Academy of Space Technology, a Xinhua report said.

China is expected to launch Tianzhou or ‘Heavenly Vessel’ into space around 2016.

The cargo vehicle will deliver supplies to Tiangong-2 space laboratory which is planned to be put into orbit before the end of 2015.

China launched the first space laboratory and target orbiter Tiangong-1 in 2011.

Development of the Tianzhou cargo spacecraft began in July 2012 and is based on the design of the Tiangong-1, and Shenzhou manned spacecrafts.

The cargo spacecraft major tasks will be to refuel the manned space station and transport supplies including propellants, living necessities for astronauts and equipment for scientific research. It can also destroy various waste materials.

According to reports, three cabin structures are being designed for the cargo ship, a fully-enclosed one, a semi-open one and a wholly-open one.

Tianzhou will weigh 13 metric tons and its cargo capacity will be about 6 tons, China Science Daily quoting Zha Xuelei, deputy chief designer of the Tianzhou system, said.

The cargo vehicle will be launched atop China’s new-generation medium-lift carrier rocket CZ-7 (Long March 7) equipped with a new-generation engine from the newly built Wenchang Launch Centre in Hainan province.

A cargo transportation system that supplies materials and fuel is vital to China building its own space station which the government plans to make it operational by 2020, the report said.

 

[Beidou2020]

Shenzhou manned spacecraft.
Tiangong space laboratory.
Tianzhou cargo spacecraft.

Awesome

 

[cirr]

China to launch Tiangong-2 space lab in 2016: astronaut

2014-09-10 14:24

CRIENGLISH.com Web Editor: Qian Ruisha
China's first astronaut Yang Liwei has revealed that China will launch the Tiangong-2 space lab in 2016 and will finish building a space station around 2022.

Yang, who is vice director of the China Manned Space Engineering Office, made the remarks at the international Planetary Congress of the Association of Space Explorers (ASE) which opened on Wednesday in Beijing.

China will also launch a manned spacecraft, the Shenzhou-11, and Tianzhou-1 cargo spaceship to dock with Tiangong-2, Yang said.

The country's first generation of astronauts are about to retire and new astronauts will be selected, including females, Yang said.

Three Chinese astronauts successfully completed a manual docking between the Shenzhou-9 spacecraft and the orbiting Tiangong-1 lab module in June 2012, the first such attempt in China's history of space exploration.

 

[cirr]

Sci-Tech, innovation to play crucial roles in China's long-term growth

(Xinhua) Updated: 2014-09-11 10:55

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang delivers a keynote speech at the opening of the Annual Meeting of the New Champions 2014, also known as the Summer Davos forum, in Tianjin Municipality, North China, Sept 10, 2014. [Photo/Xinhua]

LONDON - Chinese Premier Li Keqiang's speech at the opening ceremony of the Summer Davos forum has underlined government's commitment to supporting science, technology and innovation to play the crucial roles in underpinning Chinese industrial upgrade and long-term economic growth, said Rajiv Biswas, Chief Asia Economist at INC Inc, in an interview with Xinhua.

The Annual Meeting of the New Champions 2014, also known as the Summer Davos forum, opened Wednesday in north China's port city Tianjin.

Several highlights in the economic field could easily be spotted during Premier Li's speech, said Rajiv.

For instance, Premier Li stressed the importance of economic and structural reforms as a driver of long-term economic growth, rather than relying on fiscal stimulus; China commits itself to increasing the network of multilateral and bilateral free trade agreements to create a strong free trade net work; and China would accelerate efforts to make the domestic economy more open for foreign investment and technology, elaborated Rajiv.

Rajiv believed that science, technology and innovation are acting as the significant roles on China's economy restructure.

"Over the last three decades, Chinese economic growth was driven by exports and investment related to external demand, as it became a global hub for low-cost manufacturing. With manufacturing labor costs rising in China, it is becoming harder for China to compete in very low-cost manufacturing industries," said Rajiv.

"Therefore science, technology and innovation will play a crucial role over the next decade in helping Chinese industry to move up the value-adding chain into high-tech industries and maintain strong economic growth."

A major focus of Premier Li's speech was on the need for innovation as an essential factor to upgrading the Chinese economy, noted Rajiv.

"Premier Li stated that increasing scientific research and development would be a key focus to accelerate the development of higher value-added industries, including technological sophistication and brand quality of Chinese products. As part of China's policy efforts to improve science and technology as well as innovation, a key focus would be on further improving workforce skills through education and training, as well as ensuring greater protection of intellectual property rights," added Rajiv.

On Sept 7, IHS, a United States-based data analysis company, said in a report that China would surpass the United States, becoming the world's largest economy in 2024, as the country's consumer spending is expected to almost quadruple from 2013 to 2024.

Sci-Tech, innovation to play crucial roles in China's long-term growth - Business - Chinadaily.com.cn

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Economists upbeat on China Summer Davos in Asia

 

[TaiShang]

Tech innovation hub takes shape in Beijing

Statistics showed that in 2013, Haidian district had 21,372 patents, a rise of 7.6 percent year on year.

After China's international technology transfer center and national technology transfer accumulation center were set up in the western region of Zhongguancun, Haidian's technology exchange was tipped to become more high-end, professional and international, officials said.

To build Haidian into a "never-ending technology exchange exhibition center," the Haidian district established a service platform for Zhongguancun's technology transfer and intellectual property protection.

The platform is based on Zhongguancun Science Park's beneficial policies and R&D centers. It mainly serves technological enterprises in the Zhongguancun Science Park and spreads the services to the country's major industrial parks in different fields.

The platform focuses on the resource advantages of Zhongguancun Science Park and shares information from the China Technology Exchange.

It also includes related agency services and encourages enterprises to take part in market-oriented activities including technology transfer and intellectual property exchange.

The platform has four virtual halls featuring different functions.

The information hall releases supply and demand information in Beijing and other places in the country.

The exchange hall publicizes projects with rights that have been confirmed. It also offers a space for price bidding exchanges of patents and trademarks.

The service hall provides support services from research institutes and investing agencies.

The news hall releases notices for exhibitions, exchanges, latest news and policy orientations.

Officials said that market demands were very important for the platform, which would also provide convenient Internet access to help users find information quickly.

A highlight of the platform is an online exhibition that helps both sides of exchanges discuss and negotiate through the Internet.

The platform also enables users to apply for projects on-line to save time and money.

Haidian district also released several related policies to boost the development of intellectual property right protection and technology transfer.

The maximum awards for intellectual property right exchanges can reach 500,000 yuan ($81,976).

Maximum awards for commercializing patents can reach 1 million yuan.

Haidian district offers subsidies to enterprises that purchase high-end services for intellectual property rights, which can reach up to 500,000 yuan.

The district encourages industrial leagues and associations to initiate innovational activities.

This year, Haidian district cooperated with Zhongguancun administration committee, Beijing Intellectual Property Bureau and Beijing Quality Inspection Bureau to create beneficial policies to support enterprises, intellectual property related exchanges and transfer activities.



Smart technology helps software park stay top

In the wake of rapid urbanization in China, there have been nearly 100 "smart city" programs nationwide.

An important part of smart city construction is the inclusion of smart parks.

Introducing smart technology to enhance core competitiveness and achieve sustainable development is recognized by the majority of park operators.

In terms of smart public services, the SPSP has developed an IT Services Cloud called SPSP Huizhi. It is based on the latest cloud computing technology and aims to help build a high-end IT service platform for companies registered with SPSP.

The project helped small and medium sized enterprises, which make up nearly half of all companies in SPSP, reduce their IT expenditure and transition into cloud computing services, said a development and planning official at SPSP.

The project led to a convergence of enterprises related to the cloud computing industry to build the SPSP into a base for cloud computing with influence on both domestic and foreign markets, he added.

"The Huizhi cloud service has received praise from users," said the official. "The functions and performances of the park will be further improved in the future, to make it one of the best in China," the official said.

According to a goal set by the SPSP in its 2014 annual plan, the income of cloud computing was expected to exceed 20 million yuan ($3.3 million) this year.

The SPSP established an information-sharing and full-cycle management system for its clients.

The system optimized the allocation of resources and provided information for company decision makers. The system can also analyze company data to help better predict the park's future.

The SPSP, which was founded in July 1992, is a national center for the software industry and a base for software exports.

As of December 2013, the park completed 1.15 million square meters of land development and provided 570,000 sq m of office space for software companies.

There are currently 1,391 enterprises registered with the park, among which 562 have offices in the park, employing 38,000 people.

In 2013, software developers and information service companies in the park generated a total income of 55.2 billion yuan, paid 2.94 billion yuan in tax, and exported $760 million worth of software products.

According to the park's 12th Five Year Plan (2011-15), the park aims to achieve a total output value of 60 billion yuan by 2015, up from 26.7 billion yuan by the end of 2012.

Chip design is expected to account for 15 billion yuan, or about a quarter of the total output, while mobile Internet companies are expected to contribute 5 billion yuan.

 

[jkroo]

Good news for Zhongguancun, more innovations are expected.

 

[cirr]

Quantum Photonics on a Single Chip?

By Alexander Hellemans

Posted 11 Sep 2014 | 17:51 GMT

Photo: Nanjing University/American Physical Society

Researchers from Nanjing University, Beijing Institute of Aerospace Control Devices, and Southeast University, Nanjing, in China have demonstrated the creation of entangled photons and their manipulation on a single chip. The group reported this research last week in Physical Review Letters.

The researchers used lithium niobate (LN) as the material for the chip. LN, widely used in cellphones and modulators in telecommunications, is a material with a highly nonlinear response to light. Because of these optical properties it allows the integration of a number of quantum devices, and it is becoming the material of choice for the fabrication of photonic chips.

To demonstrate the extent to which the integration of optical elements is possible, the researchers created on the chip nine similar units that produce photon pairs of different wavelengths that match the C and L telecom bands. Three of these units contain elements for the manipulation of entangled photons.

Each of these units consist of three sections. In the first section, polarized light enters a Y branch and then passes through an electrooptical modulator which can change the phase difference between the light in the two paths. Then the photons enter two waveguides with periodical structures, created in the second section of the chip. The periodically poled LN (PPLN) is a part of the chip where the electric dipole moment of the NL crystals alternate from up and down in a periodical fashion, changing the waveguides into miniature "wigglers" if you will. This periodic structure is obtained by applying a very short high voltage pulse to the LN surface through a grid-like periodical electrical contact.

One of the properties of PPLN waveguides is that they can split each photon entering the waveguide into two photons with half the energy of the incoming photon. Because these two photons are created from a single photon, they are entangled.

In the third section the entangled photons meet in a waveguide beam splitter and realize quantum interference, then they are transferred to two adjacent waveguides.

The degree of entanglement can be changed by changing the phase difference between the photons in the two channels with the electrooptical modulator in the first section. The type of entanglement that takes place on the chip is called "path entanglement," explains Ping Xu of Nanjing University and a member of the research group. "The photon can be in one path or the other path simultaneously or separately — it is a superposition of the occupation of different paths," she says.

By changing the phase difference between the two photon streams with the electrooptical modulator, the researchers could control the amount of entanglement — the amount of "bunched" electrons. They verified the existence of the entangled photons with two-photon interferometry (Hong-Ou-Mandel interferometer), which determines whether photons arrive exactly at the same time, which they do when they are entangled.

According to Xu, their research is a definite advance: "For the first time a PPLN is used for waveguide circuits, allowing the compact generation and manipulation of entangled photons," she notes.

Illustration: Nanjing University/American Physical Society