China, Russia ties 'sealed by blood': Medvedev (Russian Prez)

[challenger]

China, Russia ties 'sealed by blood': Medvedev
05:55 AM Sep 27, 2010

DALIAN (China) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev (picture) arrived in north-eastern China for an official visit yesterday saying that Moscow's ties with Beijing were "sealed by blood" spilled fighting a common enemy.

Mr Medvedev kicked off his three-day visit by visiting the former Russian city of Dalian and paying respects to Russian soldiers who died defending the port from Japanese invaders.

"Friendship with China is Russia's strategic choice; it's a choice sealed by blood years ago," Mr Medvedev told Russian and Chinese war veterans.

"The friendship between Russian and Chinese peoples cemented by the military events will be indestructible and do good for our future generations. For Russia and China the memory of those events is sacred."

Mr Medvedev, who is also Kremlin chief, earlier laid flowers at the monument commemorating the Russian-Japanese war of 1904 to 1905 and World War II.

Accompanied by top energy officials and business tycoons, Mr Medvedev is slated to meet Chinese President Hu Jintao in Beijing today and oversee the signing of a raft of agreements including energy deals.

Russia has been in talks with China, the world's largest energy consumer, over gas deliveries.

Moscow is also eager to attract more Chinese investment.

Relations between Moscow and Beijing - once bitter foes - have a turbulent history and the Kremlin likes to call its ties with Beijing a "strategic partnership."

Mr Medvedev will head to Shanghai tomorrow and visit the Russian pavilion at the World Expo. AFP

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[challenger]

Russia to supply natural gas to China
AP, Sep 27, 2010, 05.12pm IST

BEIJING: China and Russia signed agreements on Monday to boost energy cooperation, while Moscow said it wants to supply its energy hungry neighbour with all its natural gas needs.

No dollar value was given to the agreements signed during a state visit by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, but they included documents on cooperation in coal, natural gas, nuclear energy and renewable energy.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin told reporters in Beijing that Russia is in talks with Chinese partners on plans to launch natural gas supplies to China starting in 2015, according to the state ITAR-Tass news agency.

"Russia is ready to meet China's full demand in gas," Sechin was quoted as saying in the report.

Russian state-controlled gas monopoly Gazprom said that under that agreement it will supply China with 30 billion cubic meters of gas annually for 30 years starting in late 2015. The final deal is expected to be signed next summer, Gazprom said.

Sechin said that if talks with China on gas supplies went well, Russia could sign commercial contracts by the middle of next year, ITAR-Tass said.

Russian news agency Interfax cited Russian Energy Minister Sergei Shmatko as saying that "in my opinion, the main terms of (gas) supplies, apart from the price, have been agreed upon."

Russia is the world's biggest energy producer and China is the world's largest energy consumer, overtaking the United States last year.

Although Europe remains Russia's largest export market for gas and oil, both Beijing and Moscow have been seeking to diversify their energy sources and markets, despite a long history of mutual suspicion and tensions.

Efforts by China and Russia to establish gas ties have been stalled for years, mainly because of disagreement over pricing. While Russia is eager to link gas prices for China to oil prices in the way it does in Europe, China views any European-level prices as too high.

Gazprom's statement made no mention of possible routes for the supply, but the company has been long working on the Altai pipeline project, which would link energy-rich Western Siberia with Shanghai.

Gazprom announced in 2006 that it would build two gas pipelines to China, but these plans have been upset by disagreement over future gas prices.

Turkmenistan, however, is enjoying a head start, with China set to become the largest buyer of gas from the central Asian country over the coming years as a pipeline linking the two countries reaches full capacity. Deliveries began earlier this year and are expected to hit 40 billion cubic meters in 2015.

Medvedev is on a three-day visit that started Sunday. He met Chinese President Hu Jintao for talks Monday and praised closer ties with China.

"I believe that the contact between the two countries is completely in the interest of the Russian and Chinese peoples," Medvedev said in opening remarks.

Hu hailed a "new era" in partnership. "Both sides believe that the current strategic partnership between China and Russia stands at a new starting point," the Chinese leader said at the end of talks.

Hu and Medvedev also attended a ceremony in Beijing to mark the completion of a 625-mile (1,000-kilometer) crude oil pipeline from eastern Siberia to China, which connects Russian oil fields with Daqing, a major oil production base in northeastern China. In late August, Russia opened its section of the pipeline.

The pipeline is part of a deal signed last year in which China will provide a $25 billion loan to Russia in exchange for 15 million tons of oil annually (300,000 barrels per day) for 20 years.

Russia and China fell out bitterly 50 years ago over interpretations of communist ideology. In recent years, their relationship has warmed but they remain divided by culture and a preference in both capitals for acting independently.

Both see themselves as rivals to Washington and all three are permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. China and Russia have close ties to Iran and though they supported U.N. sanctions adopted last month against Tehran over its suspected nuclear program, they have objected to stronger measures.

China and Russia also signed an agreement on fighting terrorism and separatism.

Read more: Russia to supply natural gas to China - The Times of India Russia to supply natural gas to China - The Times of India

 

[below_freezing]

sweet words, words only
i notice there are a chinese beaten to death in the street recently in russia because he is chinese/east asian

im glad my country now grow rapidly soon china will strong enough to eat this @sshole country alive

(apply to all fxxkin europe countries. its time to pay for what u have done, noble europeans)

russia has done more harm to china than any other european country but it has also done more good than any other european country, without its aid in the 1950's china would be at least 20 years behind. this came at the price of 1500000 km2 of land. on the other hand, britain and japan took about the same amount from us but gave us nothing in return, certainly not 20 years of technology.

 

[ao333]

russia has done more harm to china than any other european country but it has also done more good than any other european country, without its aid in the 1950's china would be at least 20 years behind. this came at the price of 1500000 km2 of land. on the other hand, britain and japan took about the same amount from us but gave us nothing in return, certainly not 20 years of technology.

Turning communist set China back at least 30 years... and hinder it for times to come. I don't think the world will embrace a communist superpower.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Turning communist set China back at least 30 years... and hinder it for times to come. I don't think the world will embrace a communist superpower.

Given how corrupt and ineffective Chiang Kai-Shek's government was I think China would've been set back 60 years had Mao not taken over. Besides, the Soviet government backed Chiang Kai-Shek until Mao's victory appeared inevitable.

 

[ptldM3]

sweet words, words only
i notice there are a chinese beaten to death in the street recently in russia because he is chinese/east asian
im glad my country now grow rapidly soon china will strong enough to eat this @sshole country alive

(apply to all fxxkin europe countries. its time to pay for what u have done, noble europeans)

How does this in anyway or form even remotely relate to the thread, let alone Medvedev's visit to China?

Those were skin heads i'm assuming, with that being said the mindset and belief of a skinhead is his/her own and does not reflect on me, or Russian people in general.

Foreigners get attacked and killed in just about every country, including China.

im glad my country now grow rapidly soon china will strong enough to eat this @sshole country alive:

Some of the greatest superpowers with the mightiest militaries have tried and fail miserably.

 

[xuxu1457]

I don't think that anyone was attacked for his race, no matter in China or Russia , USA and other countries

 

[peaceful]

Russia will always be our biggest enemy.

 

[gpit]

Turning communist set China back at least 30 years... and hinder it for times to come. I don't think the world will embrace a communist superpower.

Wrong, buddy!

Turning communism advances China by at least 100 years!

Facts as follows:

1) Before communism, China was so weak. Not to mention its incapability of resisting Eight Nations Alliance’s looting and killing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-Nation_Alliance it couldn’t even defend the country from Japan. However, since CPC took power, it not only repelled the free worlds’ invasion led by the strongest USA from Chinese border to 38 parallel, but also helped Vietnamese completely beat USA, re-establishing itself as one of the power among civilizations.

2) Before CPC took power, Chinese life expectancy was about 35, literacy was about 20%. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China_(1949–1976) Malnutrition, crimes… all kinds of social illness were rampant. Now, thanks to CPC, China enjoys 91% illiteracy, 70+ life expectancy. Had China have adopted western democracy, it would have been worse than Indian, the Philippines…

You really need to learn the modern history of China, and emerge yourself from Western brain-washing propaganda.

Communism saved China!

 

[challenger]

Wrong, buddy!

Turning communism advances China by at least 100 years!

Facts as follows:

1) Before communism, China was so weak. Not to mention its incapability of resisting Eight Nations Alliance’s looting and killing, Eight-Nation Alliance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia it couldn’t even defend the country from Japan. However, since CPC took power, it not only repelled the free worlds’ invasion led by the strongest USA from Chinese border to 38 parallel, but also helped Vietnamese completely beat USA, re-establishing itself as one of the power among civilizations.

2) Before CPC took power, Chinese life expectancy was about 35, literacy was about 20%. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China_(1949–1976) Malnutrition, crimes… all kinds of social illness were rampant. Now, thanks to CPC, China enjoys 91% illiteracy, 70+ life expectancy. Had China have adopted western democracy, it would have been worse than Indian, the Philippines…

You really need to learn the modern history of China, and emerge yourself from Western brain-washing propaganda.

Communism saved China!

Communism was just a cover. Mao was a prudent patriot. His pragmatism allowed him to use such cover. But Mao was more patriotic than a theoretical communist.

It was indeed patriotism that saved China, and I strongly believe, it is and will be patriotism that will save China.

 

[baconlover]

cold hard fact: No country lost, directly or indirectly, more land to another country in human history as in the case of China to Russia (Empire)

India is so lucky it doesnot border this greedy, cold-blooded bear-wolf of a neighbor

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

duplication,

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

I am sure the Russians love you now.

The blast that ripped through a small cafe in the Cherkizovo market in eastern Moscow Monday morning killed eight instantly, including two children aged four and five. Two more victims died in a hospital, and the death count may yet grow: eleven of 35 wounded are in extremely grave condition. It was a brutal attack, and many Westerners acquainted with the Chechen rebels' tactics over the years might at first simply conclude it was yet another front in the war on terror — a random act of violence perpetrated by Islamic militants bent on inflicting as much carnage as possible on the West, be it George Bush's U.S. or Vladimir Putin's Russia.
Except that most of those who were killed are Uzbeks, Tajiks, Chinese and Vietnamese — the "blacks" or "churki" (wooden stubs), as Russian Nationalists derogatively call non-white foreigners, and as the increasing number of average Russians casually echo them. On Tuesday, law enforcement officials said they identified the bombers as three young ethnic Russian students of Moscow colleges. The suspects believed, Moscow's Prosecutor Yuri Demin told the press, that "There are too many Asians" here.

Read more: Inside Russia's Racism Problem - TIME

 

[challenger]

India is so lucky it doesnot border this greedy, cold-blooded bear-wolf of a neighbor

This is my message to all the like minded Chinese members:


Guys, what is wrong with you? I know you have a reason to hate Russia, and i do share your hatred.

Yes, Russia snatched a significant portion of land away from China, but so did india.

indians with the help of their British masters grabbed a significant portion of land from China. See the British indian Map below.... yesterday what was Chinese land is indian land today....

Why does not the Commie govt of present China teach the Chinese students this chapter of history?

 

[Panther]

im glad my country now grow rapidly soon china will strong enough to eat this @sshole country alive

(apply to all fxxkin europe countries. its time to pay for what u have done, noble europeans)

If that is indeed the sentiments of the Chinese leadership and the majority of it's citizens, which i currently doubt it is, then we might as well kiss China's benign peaceful rise good bye and welcome the new reality of her malignant belligerency?

Be very careful in what you wish for.