China, Rome, and the United States

[Lux de Veritas]

Ancient Egyptians already invented paper.

Anyway, no point instead telling everyone your ancestors were good. 过去老祖宗好是过去了，为什么现在自己那么差？

Chinese could have just 4 good inventions. The white man give us giants like Newton, Einstein, Gauss, John Locke, Democracy, human rights, Magna Carta....

We are so lousy compared to white man.

 

[Grand Historian]

Ancient Egyptians already invented paper.

Anyway, no point instead telling everyone your ancestors were good. 过去老祖宗好是过去了，为什么现在自己那么差？

Chinese could have just 4 good inventions. The white man give us giants like Newton, Einstein, Gauss, John Locke, Democracy, human rights, Magna Carta....

We are so lousy compared to white man.

Papyrus =/= Paper

You reveal your true colors,calling yourself a patriotic Chinese while at the same time degrading Chinese and worshiping the White man

 

[Viet]

ViXuyen is claiming that the 4 great inventions did not originate in China.

Undisputed, China invented them.

I'm well aware that Dai Viet contributed in firearm technology to say that they invented guns is a bit of stretch though.

no, not inventing handguns or fire lances or flame throwers, but improving them by making them shooting further and more accurate.

Funny how you are praising Dai Viet for "civilizing" other countries when in fact they warred with Cham,Khmers and Tai/Lao people constantly.

civilizing the barbarians is a concept of China that Vietnam adopts.
imposing law and order, annihilating the enemies, annexing the land and subduing the people

for example, Vietnamese emperor Ming Mang ordered the Khmer people in occupied Cambodia to follow Vietnamese law and order, to adopt cultures and custom, and punished hard those who did not follow.

While Vietnamese gnash their teeth that the Chinese conquered Southern China the inherent birthright of Vietnamese.

The historical fabrications I'm detailing is the Baiyue = Vietnamese and that sort of nonsense.

not baiyue, but nanyue. a tribe of yue´s. the question remains was nanyue/namviet a Chinese or Vietnamese Kingdom? I would say Sino-Vietnamese Kingdom.

 

[Edison Chen]

not East Asia, but Vietnam contributed positively in the development of Southeast Asia: stop in expansion of Hinduism and Islams, while preserving Confucism and Buddhism, civilizing the barbarians in Vietnam and neighborhood, restoring peace and stability when the region flipped into chaos, stop the genocide in Cambodia, expelling western invaders the French and Americans.

Vietnam sees itself as a nation in SE Asia, with cultures and custom of East Asia.

by the way, Chinese are not immun against propaganda. China under Mao Zedong suffered political/economics chaos and millions of deaths.

Can you explain what Vietnam actually did about stopping expansion of Hinduism and Islams?

 

[Viet]

you mean that monkey was sent into space by a Russian capsule in 50s? yeah```real pride

look yourself into the mirror before insulting idiot. if we are monkey, so you too.

Phạm Tuân (born February 14, 1947) is a retired Vietnam Air Force aviator. He became the first Vietnamese citizen and the first Asian (outside Russia) in space when he flew aboard the Soyuz 37 mission as an Intercosmos Research Cosmonaut.[1][2] He was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.

Phạm Tuân - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Lux de Veritas]

not East Asia, but Vietnam contributed positively in the development of Southeast Asia: stop in expansion of Hinduism and Islams, while preserving Confucism and Buddhism, civilizing the barbarians in Vietnam and neighborhood, restoring peace and stability when the region flipped into chaos, stop the genocide in Cambodia, expelling western invaders the French and Americans.

Vietnam sees itself as a nation in SE Asia, with cultures and custom of East Asia.

by the way, Chinese are not immun against propaganda. China under Mao Zedong suffered political/economics chaos and millions of deaths.

The whole world especially Chinese should thank Vietnam for stopping the spread of Hinduism. The SE Asia is Hindu or Islam. We know Hinduism is the most shit religion in the whole world bring the cesspool of caste system. Before there are caste system in SE Asia.

Today, caste system exist only in Indonesia Bali.

Vietnam is a beacon of Sinic culture in SE Asia. She is the most civilize people in SE Asia. She spread the real Chinese civilization. The PRC destroy Chinese civilization through cultural revolution.

Without Vietnam, SE Asia will be very Indianize, will be a shitthole. Vietnam is a beacon of East Asian culture in SE Asia.

PRC got no brains.

 

[Rechoice]

You are absolutely hopeless,no one is arguing that the founder of the Yuan or Qing dynasty is Han rather that legitimized themselves by using the mandate of heaven and adopting Chinese government and customs.

Neither were the Han Chinese slaves under their administration they reached high governmental positions out of talent.

While the distortions you believe in are Xich Quy,Van Lang and Hung Kings which have no historical merit.

I doubt you can even read Hanzi or Chu Nom come back when you are educated.

The typical Vietnamese nationalists attitude is reflected in their posts ie Chinaman,Han Chinese are slaves,Vietnamese invented gunpowder,Vietnamese ruled Southern China.

It is funny thing in History of China, Chinese people are brainwashed that Mongolian and Manchurian adopted in to Chinese culture then there were two from foreigner invader became legitimized Chinese Dynasty.

You have to know is that when Mongolian invaded in to China land, they were both Nomad people were living in North Asia, they were foreigners when they conquered your land and people, taken control on China Country with force.

With limited population from Nomad people Mongolian and Manchurian have been applied a primitive policy "using Han Chinese to rule Han Chinese" or "using Han culture to enslaving Han Chinese" It was very effectiveness.. The Han Chinese served in the Yuan and Qing Kingdom court were Han Jian, defectors or traitors, no more.

 

[EastSea]

you mean that monkey was sent into space by a Russian capsule in 50s? yeah```real pride

the monkey in china copied from people in the world then claimed invented bey themselves, made fake products

 

[Viet]

Can you explain what Vietnam actually did about stopping expansion of Hinduism and Islams?

when Vietnam regained independence from China in year 939, we faced many challenges as a new nation. We had a hostile imperial China in the north, and a mighty enemy in the south: the kingdom of Champa.

Champa was a hinduism society, based on caste, slaves and a godlike king. Hinduism had spread from India, over Burma, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia to Champa. The Chams controlled the sea lanes from the South China Sea to Indian Ocean. later they converted to Islam as the new belief became popular and successfully intruded into the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia. The Chams launched more 10 invasions into the new founded kingdom of Vietnam.

more than one time, Vietnam was on verge of collapse when the Champ troops conquered Hanoi (three times). with China did nothing to help Vietnam.

the final turn came in year 1471, when Vietnam reached the strength, amassed an army of 300,000 men adopting with best firearms. when the Viet troop arrived the capital of Champa Vijaya, we annihilated the Cham army until the last man and made the population to slaves. The Chams asked China for help, but it was too late.

they started, so they deserved the fate.

if we lost the war, they had made us to slaves.

later in the 1490s, Vietnam started a westward military campaign against Laos, Thailand and Burma. the Viet troop arrived the heartland of Burma Kingdom. the Hinduism eased to spead further in SE Asia. as Vietnam the only country in SE Asia having firearms, nothing could stop Vietnamese advance. Ming China forced Vietnam to withdraw from occupied territories. the 5 year long military campaign came to an end.

 

[Jlaw]

Are you simple? Some Jews were in on it....but socialism in its modern form is strictly western....an answer to industrialization. And as far as china inventing guns....I call bull. Earliest examples are from Europe. Chinese also claim to have invented flight because some tard tied birds to his throne. Habitual liars.

You should stop ranting and study more yankee.

 

[Edison Chen]

when Vietnam regained independence from China in year 939, we faced many challenges as a new nation. We had a hostile imperial China in the north, and a mighty enemy in the south: the kingdom of Champa.

Champa was a hinduism society, based on caste, slaves and a godlike king. Hinduism had spread from India, over Burma, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia to Champa. The Chams controlled the sea lanes from the South China Sea to Indian Ocean. later they converted to Islam as the new belief became popular and successfully intruded into the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia. The Chams launched more 10 invasions into the new founded kingdom of Vietnam.

more than one time, Vietnam was on verge of collapse when the Champ troops conquered Hanoi (three times). with China did nothing to help Vietnam.

the final turn came in year 1471, when Vietnam reached the strength, amassed an army of 300,000 men adopting with best firearms. when the Viet troop arrived the capital of Champa Vijaya, we annihilated the Cham army until the last man and made the population to slaves. The Chams asked China for help, but it was too late.

they started, so they deserved the fate.

if we lost the war, they had made us to slaves.

later in the 1490s, Vietnam started a westward military campaign against Laos, Thailand and Burma. the Viet troop arrived the heartland of Burma Kingdom. the Hinduism eased to spead further in SE Asia. as Vietnam the only country in SE Asia having firearms, nothing could stop Vietnamese advance. Ming China forced Vietnam to withdraw from occupied territories. the 5 year long military campaign came to an end.

Thanks for your explaination, very detail. I think Hinduism is quite stupid, everyone can see its backward, but it's rather isolated. Hinduism doesn't encourage foreigners to join. The real threat is Islamic.

 

[ViXuyen]

you mean that monkey was sent into space by a Russian capsule in 50s? yeah```real pride

It's a fact that the first yellow man in space is a Viet, deal with it.

 

[sweetgrape]

The whole world especially Chinese should thank Vietnam for stopping the spread of Hinduism. The SE Asia is Hindu or Islam. We know Hinduism is the most shit religion in the whole world bring the cesspool of caste system. Before there are caste system in SE Asia.

Today, caste system exist only in Indonesia Bali.

Vietnam is a beacon of Sinic culture in SE Asia. She is the most civilize people in SE Asia. She spread the real Chinese civilization. The PRC destroy Chinese civilization through cultural revolution.

Without Vietnam, SE Asia will be very Indianize, will be a shitthole. Vietnam is a beacon of East Asian culture in SE Asia.

PRC got no brains.

WTF! "Hail" for VIET.

the monkey in china copied from people in the world then claimed invented bey themselves, made fake products

Can't understand, why need copy monkey? why not import from Viet? there are more than million monkey in Viet, and cheap.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

WTF! "Hail" for VIET.

Thats y i say PRC no brains.Vietnamese is a good friend of Chinese spreading Sinic civilization. You guys want to surrounded by folks who worship Confucius or you guys want Islamofacist, hindus...etc at your doorstep.

The more Vietnam/Japan/Korea around China the merrier. The western China is full of Islamofacist. They link up with Uighur and teach them how to be naughty. Imagine if they is a Confucius proxy state like Vietnam down there, instead of Afghanistan, she would be a evangelism source of Chinese culture.

What if Vietnam is non-existence? Then Southern China will become Islamofacist like most part of SE Asia.

Thank you Vietnam.

 

[sweetgrape]

Thats y i say PRC no brains.Vietnamese is a good friend of Chinese spreading Sinic civilization. You guys want to surrounded by folks who worship Confucius or you guys want Islamofacist, hindus...etc at your doorstep.

The more Vietnam/Japan/Korea around China the merrier. The western China is full of Islamofacist. They link up with Uighur and teach them how to be naughty. Imagine if they is a Confucius proxy state like Vietnam down there, instead of Afghanistan, she would be a evangelism source of Chinese culture.

What if Vietnam is non-existence? Then Southern China will become Islamofacist like most part of SE Asia.

Thank you Vietnam.

Hehe, do you think you have brain? Sorry, I don't think you are better than PRC.
"The more vietnam/Japan/Korea around china the merrier", hehe, very ridiculous, you think china can exist and survive is becouse of Korean、Japan and Viet, your understanding on culture is very superficial.
Why a goods can be liked by people, not because people like it, but the goods is good, can meet the people's need.

You thank Viet, I don't, they should thank us on the contrary, whether you can get the reason, depend on your knowledge and understanding!