China ready to mediate between Pakistan, India

[Corona]

Well said buddy. However let me remind you that more than 10 years ago Pakistan was willing to make a big compromise...

Please provide an example when India was just as willing...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/05/pakistan.india

Of-course India never offered any solution. Do you know why? Cause there was nothing in it for India. India is just fine with the situation in Kashmir. A reunited Kashmir, despite being in the interest of locals, doesn't do much for India in a strategic sense.
Besides, a united Kashmir under recent conditions will obviously lean towards Pakistan. Why would they allow that?
There is also no guarantee that all reunification will do is start another war to conquer Kashmir.

 

[hassamun]

We had plenty of constructive dialogue before. Did it help? Bajpayee started CBMs risking his political career in '99 and disaster followed. Musharraf who planned to solve K-issue by Kargil way was the one who almost came close to solve it in the most peaceful way, if we believe your foreign minister's words, which again got thwarted by your domestic turbulence in 2007 and in 2008, Mumbai burned. With such roller coaster like ups and down in bilateral relationship, one can not expect a meaningful dialogue. Can we?

Musharraf came close to Peace only because his Indian Counterpart, Mr Vajpayee was willing to listen...To be honest with you I have some doubts regarding the current Indian Government...Peace can always be obtained...We should always hope for the best...

Of-course India never offered any solution. Do you know why? Cause there was nothing in it for India. India is just fine with the situation in Kashmir. A reunited Kashmir, despite being in the interest of locals, doesn't do much for India in a strategic sense.
Besides, a united Kashmir under recent conditions will obviously lean towards Pakistan. Why would they allow that?
There is also no guarantee that all reunification will do is start another war to conquer Kashmir.

Nothing for India? Buddy Peace when obtained is more valuable than anything on Earth...And the people should decide where do they want to go to...

 

[scorpionx]

Musharraf came close to Peace only because his Indian Counterpart, Mr Vajpayee was willing to listen...To be honest with you I have some doubts regarding the current Indian Government...Peace can always be obtained...We should always hope for the best...



Nothing for India? Buddy Peace when obtained is more valuable than anything on Earth...And the people should decide where do they want to go to...

The current government might be aggressive in its posture against Pakistan because of it's ideological tilt, but it will not take any brazen step to solve K-issue unilaterally. Remember, it's a historically pro-US government and it will not do anything that might create ire in the capitol hill.

Kashmir's solution does not lay in Kashmir. As long as Pakistan continues to see it a prerequisite to solve K issue first and all come secondary the problem will continue. Your civilian elite has a critical domestic compulsion which your Military sees as a strategic and tactical asset. This is a complete Frankenstein creation of your own. If your leaders find an way how to get rid of it, Kashmir issue won't look tough anymore to solve.

 

[Corona]

Nothing for India? Buddy Peace when obtained is more valuable than anything on Earth...And the people should decide where do they want to go to...

In an ideal world peace should and will be more valuable. Heck, in an ideal world we wouldn't need borders.
I feel like the chance for a solution that will benefit everyone including the Kashmiri people has long gone. What started as a dispute on the allocation of land on basis of religion has morphed into something much bigger with a lot more at stake. Entire battle plans, foreign strategy and even national identity is tied this issue. It wont be easy to get out of this. It should've been sorted out back in 1948.

 

[hassamun]

The current government might be aggressive in its posture against Pakistan because of it's ideological tilt, but it will not take any brazen step to solve K-issue unilaterally. Remember, it's a historically pro-US government and it will not do anything that might create ire in the capitol hill.

Kashmir's solution does not lay in Kashmir. As long as Pakistan continues to see it a prerequisite to solve K issue first and all come secondary the problem will continue. Your military and civilians have a critical domestic compulsion which is a complete Frankenstein creation of your own. If your leaders find an way how to get rid of it Kashmir issue won't look tough anymore to solve.

Bro the major issue is Kashmir...All the Wars, mistrust, etc has happened because of the Kashmir Issue...The Kashmir Issue is the key to solving all issues...

In an ideal world peace should and will be more valuable. Heck, in an ideal world we wouldn't need borders.
I feel like the chance for a solution that will benefit everyone including the Kashmiri people has long gone. What started as a dispute on the allocation of land on basis of religion has morphed into something much bigger with a lot more at stake. Entire battle plans, foreign strategy and even national identity is tied this issue. It wont be easy to get out of this. It should've been sorted out back in 1948.

I agree with you that the issue should have been resolved in 1948...Wherever European Powers left they left everlasting territorial disputes...but we must take this as a History Lesson and move on to the negotiating table...

 

[scorpionx]

Bro the major issue is Kashmir...All the Wars, mistrust, etc has happened because of the Kashmir Issue...The Kashmir Issue is the key to solving all issues...

Indians, unlike Pakistanis are not so obstinate about Kashmir. There is no hurry, or emotional appeal at all to solve Kashmir. India may politically claim all parts of kashmir presently administered by Pakistan, but they are more than happy with the status quo. Once both the sides convince each others on this, the problem might get to back burner.

Our focus should be on social and economic reforms. Once we pass through overcoming our immediate hovering problems like extremism, education employment, infrastructure the Kashmiris will benefit from them too. Who knows our whole way of thinking might get changed after twenty/thirty years. At least we can ensure a peaceful south Asia for our kids by it.

 

[mikkix]

If that is the case then it seems China is backing off from its position in the recent Indo China clash, because China was threatening India and now giving signals for mediating. How come that possible.

 

[Corona]

Indians, unlike Pakistanis are not so obstinate about Kashmir. There is no hurry, or emotional appeal at all to solve Kashmir. India may politically claim all parts of kashmir presently administered by Pakistan, but they are more than happy with the status quo. Once both the sides convince each others on this, the problem might get to back burner.

As much as I hate to admit it you're right about the status quo.

 

[bhimram]

As much as I hate to admit it you're right about the status quo.

I think except for political points to be scored, most of people of India are ok with India getting it's side of Kashmir and Pakistan keeping their side.
This is the only practical solution to this problem.

Which ever party/group proposes this step will spend a lot of political capital while doing it.

 

[Beast]

Bro, offer constructive answers without personal attacks. Such attacks will then be countered and then Arguments and Trolling starts.

"You must never underestimate your opposition." - John Scarlett

Its is very constructive. See how the Indian media in full force masking their aggression and claim China is invader despite they are occupying Doklam Plateau. I do know what kind of reply do you want? Isn't that constructive enough?

Maybe you are blind by Indian media thinking Doklam Plateau belongs to Indian?

 

[hassamun]

Its is very constructive. See how the Indian media in full force masking their aggression and claim China is invader despite they are occupying Doklam Plateau. I do know what kind of reply do you want? Isn't that constructive enough?

Maybe you are blind by Indian media thinking Doklam Plateau belongs to Indian?

Buddy I never said such a statement...

Media certainly favours their own nations, its a fact...Saying things like 'You Indians...' is impolite...

 

[neem456]

China has not earned any respect for itself from its history that it can be invited to the mediation table as a third negotiator. Hence china is out of question.

Although india and pakistan have signed shimla agreement for solving it mutually and bilaterally only, lets just imagine for a argument sake, who could be third country if not china that could be invited as a mediator ?
US ? Will pakistan be willing to allow US to mediate ?

 

[dray]

China has expressed willingness to play a constructive role in improving tense relations between Pakistan and India.

Addressing a press briefing in Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Geng Shuang said on-going tension along the Line of Control in Kashmir is posing threat to peace and stability of the region.

He urged both Islamabad and New Delhi to start a meaningful dialogue for the settlement of their bilateral disputes and promote peace in the region.

Replying to a question about current border standoff between China and India in Sikkim, he asked the Indian side to withdraw its troops from the Chinese territory and properly settle this dispute at the earliest.

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/07/china-ready-to-mediate-between-pakistan-india/

India and Pakistan have agreed to solve all pending disputes and disagreements bilaterally, no third country or group or organization has any scope of playing any role here.

Besides, a mediator (in anything) first needs to establish its impartiality and credibility, China severely lacks in both the parameters. Maybe as a confidence building measure China can first consider India as a mediator between the Chinese government and the Tibet government in exile, we can look forward to solving other disputes once Tibet issue is solved amicably.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

So now the country with one of the largest number of border and territorial disputes is going to mediate peace between India and Pakistan.

It is just like a morbidly obese guy saying he will be the personal trainer and will help someone to build six pack. Thanks but no thanks.

 

[Rollno21]

Its is very constructive. See how the Indian media in full force masking their aggression and claim China is invader despite they are occupying Doklam Plateau. I do know what kind of reply do you want? Isn't that constructive enough?

Maybe you are blind by Indian media thinking Doklam Plateau belongs to Indian?

We appreciate China's gesture and infact India is in a better position to help China by mediating between
China-Bhutan
China-vietnam
China-Japan
Sh!t the list is too long to type,,that
China helping by mediating between
India and Pakistan