China Railway to conduct India high-speed rail study - Xinhua

[gslv mk3]

e "Manned space flight by 2015

Maned spaceflight by 2020 is already on the cards,as crew modules have already been flight tested.

Problem ?

 

[Dungeness]

Very true. That is why no estimate of the cost of the project was mentioned. I cannot imagine how a GDP/capita of $1700/year can support a hsr. @AndrewJin based on the same estimate as China's, how much would a 1200 km hsr cost?

Also the rupee is not a stable currency. If the project does go through the Chinese should be paid with Yuan.

it's best if india stop trying to wear big shoes with small feet.

India's priority may be upgrades of existing railways.
Before China opened the first real high-speed railway, we already had 6 major speed-up campaigns.
In the sixth round speed-up campaign in 2007, some sections of traditional railways accelerated to 250km/h in China.

I think u might remember back in 2007, Shanghainese already could ride a bullet train to nearby Nanjing in less than 2 hours, that was a couple of years before the inauguration of Shanghai-Nanjing Intercity HSR and Shanghai-Nanjing-Beijing HSR. So actually now we have 3 parallel lines from Nanjing-Shanghai operating at 250-350km/h.

Indian railway's problem as fas as I know, it's not just about the speed, which is more important to China when speed has limited our productivity from further increase. U can just search for the monthly deadly train accidents in India, which happen in low speed. Their railway management level, manufarutinrg capacity and subsequent maintenance are decades away.

If India really starts one project, the ill management and maintenance will make their new railway system dangerous as their old one, except that they let others run an independent system without any interference of locals. Even though, local people's deficiency of safety awareness will totally ruin the whole system.

I sincerely advice they first learn how to walk properly.

Their “me too" mentality is not helping them. They often announce grandiose plans with some impressive PPTs, and get whole nation all hyped up, then......there is no then. Remember those all impressive announcements like "Manned space flight by 2015", "Walk on the moon by 2020", "Surpass Shanghai by 2009", and "Superpower by 2012" ? Funny thing is nobody ever need to be accountable for all these embarrassments in national scale. What is worse, they never learn from their past failures, and continue the same stories year after year. Maybe the traits are built-in? Quite different from Chinese.

Maned spaceflight by 2020 is already on the cards,as crew modules have already been flight tested.

Problem ?

No, not at all! Just get it done, and I will be happy for people of India. But, are you sure it will be done by 2020?

 

[Tiger Genie]

Financially speaking I have doubt on the feasibility of having HSR in any underdeveloped country, especially in countries with severely low income. Since income level, hence affordability of passengers, is crucial to sustainability of such a transport system.

@AndrewJin

well, China has it, so why not.

 

[gslv mk3]

No, not at all! Just get it done, and I will be happy for people of India. But, are you sure it will be done by 2020?

Yes it can - The plan is for a bigger crew capsular & a heavier Launch Vehicle than the early plans

 

[south block]

Wastage of tax payer money

 

[gslv mk3]

An indian upper-class man can easily afford to buy tickets for his five or ten servants to go along with him, so no need to worry about the lack of passengers, we just have to make a few Class A coaches look like this:

Its a luxury train - something similar to a five star hotel on wheels Palace on Wheels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are in the process of increasing speed of our premium services to 200 kph on existing tracks.

They faked it! NASA did the navigation and built the satellite. When federal workers threatened shutdown, Indian mission was going to be delayed.

Absolute bullshit !! Its navigation support,and your moon mission did it with ESAs support

The result of India High Speed Rail Study will be:

NO WAY!

Thank you and come again!

Keep crying troll

 

[gslv mk3]

End of the day, real modernisation will not happen and India can continue its snail progress in economy and development.

Another dumb troll..

 

[AndrewJin]

It just a study. End of the day, real modernisation will not happen and India can continue its snail progress in economy and development.

i have been reading such feasibility news for years.

Indian's annual consumption is only one sixth of Chinese, I highly doubt their purchasing power of their so-called "middle class". I cannot expect there will be enough passengers who can afford a bullet train ticket of 100+ pair of bullet trains per day along Mumbai-Dehli section. And their fiscal revenue is too small to subsidise a huge HSR network.

Besides, there are issues of management and maintenance, which are even more unconquerable for them.

 

[Dungeness]

i have been reading such feasibility news for years.
Indian's annual consumption is only one sixth of Chinese, I highly doubt their purchasing power of their so-called "middle class". I cannot expect there will be enough passengers who can afford a bullet train ticket of 100+ pair of bullet trains per day along Mumbai-Dehli section. And their fiscal revenue is too small to subsidise a huge HSR network.

Besides, there are issues of management and maintenance, which are even more unconquerable for them.

This is an ego massaging project for a very proud people, as they just have to get themselves into this so-called "elite club" of world powers, like all those super expensive projects. Ride-free hanging passengers are not taken into consideration, not even those $2-4 per day "middle class" people. This country needs a statement to announce its "arrival", its people need something to hype for, and the politicians need a pet project to show for. So I think they will go for it, even one HSR line with a couple of pair trains per day, even this project will drag next to forever.

 

[Jlaw]

the way, congratulates to your nations' success on Mars Mission, the first country in Asia to send a spacecraft successfully to the red planet!

I would also like to thank NASA for providing the deep space communications that made it possible for India to send the probe to Mars.

i have been reading such feasibility news for years.

Indian's annual consumption is only one sixth of Chinese, I highly doubt their purchasing power of their so-called "middle class". I cannot expect there will be enough passengers who can afford a bullet train ticket of 100+ pair of bullet trains per day along Mumbai-Dehli section. And their fiscal revenue is too small to subsidise a huge HSR network.

Besides, there are issues of management and maintenance, which are even more unconquerable for them.

precisely. According to some indian report, if the HSR does take place , it will cost around $23billiion USD. This is only for building the line. Maintenance not included.

 

[Dungeness]

I would also like to thank NASA for providing the deep space communications that made it possible for India to send the probe to Mars.

We all know that, but it is the high of a nation's ego, they badly need something to "better" China.

 

[Jlaw]

We all know that, but it is the high of a nation's ego, they badly need something to "better" China.

They have surpass China in many categories. Such as pollution with 1/10 the manufacturing, and higher percentage of poor people.

13 out of world's top 20 polluted cities in India, only three in China | india | Hindustan Times

Five Myths About India's Poverty | Richard Dobbs

 

[egodoc222]

There is one way a high speed train is possible in India is to build it above ground supported by pillars all the way. This way no problems with cows or pedestrians crossing the rail. No railway crossings for traffic to maintain. Even no land to buy and no need to evict anybody.
Accident free and lower maintainance. Just like in China.

In United States almost every month a train will hit somebody or some traffic. And it not even high speed.
How come United States engineers never thought of that.

Cost will skyrocket!!

 

[Ryuzaki]

GOI is just wasting time with these reports,hundreds have been prepared before what happened to them?
This is just a show,so that they can simply say "Report is being prepared" whenever asked about high speed rail