China please save the children

[dingyibvs]

<I know you're just trolling but please don't bring kids into it.>

I am not trolling this is a serious problem that China has to tackle. China's children are the future of China. If you've got nothing better to say don't respond.

<There's nothing the government can realistically do.>
BS statement!!!! Are you educated? If you care about China you should do something about it. Otherwise, don't use the PRC flag for your flag.

Quit with that retarded ****, there's been more school shooting death per capita in the U.S. than in China. This is not a "serious problem", it's a FREAK problem. These psychopaths could've just as well attacked some other random target and spawned a slew of copy cat attacks.

What can China do? Tell me. Surround every single one of the hundreds of thousands of schools? Correct all the societal problems overnight? Sure they'll promise to do "something", and they'll do something inconsequential for publicity, but there's nothing they can realistically do to stop this. It's like how the fudge can India stop the pouring acid on ppl's faces thing? Or the U.S. with the shooting rampages? If some psychopath wants to do it, there's nothing stopping him.

 

[dingyibvs]

Feb. 14, 2008: A 27-year-old man goes on a rampage at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, shooting 21 people, killing five and later himself. University police report that the suspect, a former student, had stopped taking medication and had been acting "somewhat erratic."


Feb. 12, 2008: In Oxnard, Calif., a 14-year-old shoots a 15-year-old classmate, who later dies of his injuries. Law enforcement cites "bad blood" between the teens.

Feb. 11, 2008: In Memphis, a 19-year-old senior is shot in his school's gym by a 17-year-old sophomore, following a feud that started off campus earlier in the week; after the shooting, the suspect hands his gun to a coach, saying, "It's over now."

Feb. 8, 2008: A nursing student shoots two women and then herself in a classroom at Louisiana Technical College, outside Baton Rouge.

Feb. 7, 2008: In Portsmouth, Ohio, a small community near the Kentucky border, a man shoots his estranged wife at the Notre Dame Elementary School.

Feb. 4, 2008: In Memphis's Hamilton High School, a 16-year-old student is shot in the leg during an argument with another student over music.

Jan. 16, 2008: As students are being dismissed early from school, one is wounded in the shoulder after being shot in the parking lot of Crossroads Charter High School in Charlotte, N.C.

Dec. 13, 2007: Two doctoral students from India are shot and killed in student apartments on the Louisiana State University campus.

Dec. 12, 2007: After taking his father's pistol to school, a student shoots a 14-year-old classmate at a private school outside New Delhi; gun violence is very rare in India.

Dec. 10, 2007: A 24-year-old goes on a shooting spree at a megachurch in Colorado Springs and a Denver-area missionary training school, killing four and wounding four others; the gunman, who law enforcement sources said "hated Christians," kills himself.

Nov. 7, 2007: An 18-year-old man, a former student, shoots seven people and wounds 11 others before taking his own life at a high school in southern Finland; this is the first known school shooting in Finland, where gun ownership is fairly common by European standards but shootings are rare.

Oct. 24, 2007: In Saginaw, Mich., four South Middle School students are shot by a high school student at a middle school football game; the victims' injuries are not life threatening.

Oct. 10, 2007: A 14-year-old gunman opens fire at Success Tech Academy, a nontraditional high school in Cleveland, wounding two students and two teachers before killing himself.

Sept. 30, 2007: A University of Memphis football player dies after being shot and then crashing his car into a tree, following a botched robbery attempt outside a university housing complex.

Sept. 21, 2007: Two Delaware State University students are shot and wounded at the Campus Mall while returning from an on-campus cafe.

Aug. 5, 2007: Four young people are shot in the head at close range, three fatally, in the parking lot of the K-8 Mount Vernon School in Newark, N.J.; all of the victims had been planning to attend Delaware State in the fall.

April 16, 2007: Before killing himself, a 23-year-old Virginia Tech student, Seung Hui Cho, kills two students in a dorm; then two hours later across campus in Norris Hall, he kills 25 more students and five faculty members. Fifteen others are wounded in the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history.

April 2, 2007: A program coordinator for the University of Washington's College of Architecture is shot and killed by a man in an apparent murder-suicide.

Oct. 2, 2006: A gunman kills six people, including himself, and wounds more at a one-room Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Pa.

Sept. 29, 2006: A 15-year-old student brings two guns to Weston Schools in rural Cazenovia, Wis., and fatally shoots his principal after the principal had given him a disciplinary warning for having tobacco on school grounds.

Sept. 27, 2006: A 53-year-old gunman takes six girls hostage at Platte Canyon High School in Bailey, Colo. The gunman uses the girls as human shields for hours before fatally wounding a 16-year-old and then killing himself.

Sept. 17, 2006: Five Duquesne University basketball players are injured in a campus shooting by two men after a dance.

Sept. 2, 2006: Douglas Pennington, 49, kills his two sons and himself while visiting Shepherd University in West Virginia.

Nov. 8, 2005: A high school freshman is arrested in the fatal shooting of an assistant principal and wounding of two other school administrators at Campbell County High School in eastern Tennessee.

March 21, 2005: A 16-year-old student shoots and kills five schoolmates, a teacher, and an unarmed guard at Red Lake High School on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota before taking his own life.

Sept. 24, 2003: A 15-year-old student fatally shoots two fellow students at Rocori High School in Cold Spring, Minn.

April 24, 2003: A 14-year-old student shoots and kills the principal of Red Lion Area Junior High School in south-central Pennsylvania before killing himself.

Oct. 28, 2002: A student at the University of Arizona Nursing College kills three of his instructors before killing himself.

Jan. 16, 2002: A graduate student at the Appalachian School of Law shoots and kills the dean, a professor, and a student and wounds three other students.

 

[dingyibvs]

now shut the **** up about the kids like you actually give a ****. you're just using any excuse to attack china, how despicable. **** like this happens, and it's a sad, sad, affair whenever it happens wherever it happens. only shameless pieces of **** like you would try to politicize it.

 

[xuxu1457]

now shut the **** up about the kids like you actually give a ****. you're just using any excuse to attack china, how despicable. **** like this happens, and it's a sad, sad, affair whenever it happens wherever it happens. only shameless pieces of **** like you would try to politicize it.

It is urgly to policicize this sad things~

 

[username]

Guys in China I sympathize with you. This is not something that your Chinese government does or it sponsers to do...

what the **** is there to discuss about it ? You think any government in the world will allow this if such things can be controlled ?

These guys are nutcases, whatever be their problem. The reason for fighting (if at all there are any for the doing the stupid things these mentally instable morons were doing) becomes absurd because of this kind of actions... and people are posting and discussing what China or Uganda should do to avoid these things ... It is disgusting... sick...

MODS close this thread...

 

[username]

I guess ppl in China want to show their discontent for the government through murdering during the Expo...

The general world's discontent about China or its Human rights violation or whatever be it is need not be brought to discussion saying that the "ppl in China" what to show their discontent...

Do you think "ppl in China" show their discontent by murdering children... don't politicise this problem...

 

[deepak75]

In Mother China,

There should be life.
There should be liberty.
And there should be the pursuit of happiness.

But all of them must serve national interests.

My friend you have written wisely about the problem. Also most of the solutions are pragmatic and useful in tackling this problem. It is tragic when children are killed. At that age, they do not even know about religion, or about politics or about classes or about revenge. So killing them is shameful on the least. It is good that the government in China is trying to tackle this although I think that this has been a result of years of neglect and hence is a massive social undercurrent problem but China has done several wonders so I do not see why it can also solve this problem.

I do not want to derail the thread from the good discussion that you are having but I have only one suggestion of change in the thinking. To quote from what your wrote:

There should be life.
There should be liberty.
And there should be the pursuit of happiness.

And the nation must serve the above social interests.

 

[Prometheus]

idiots got frustrated from their life.............took down their anger on poor kids.
No one can expect a attack on innocent children...........

 

[no_name]

In 19th century TB was the main disease.
In 20th century cancer is the main disease.

21th century I nominate mental illness due to the stress and un-naturalness of modern life

We need more medical research in this area, the human mind is still relatively poorly understood.

 

[aimarraul]

Govt vows thorough response to attacks

* Source: Global Times
* [03:04 May 14 2010]
* Comments

Two police officers stand guard outside a junior high school Tuesday in Changsha, Hunan Province. Security has been tightened at schools across the country after several deadly attacks on students. Photo: CFP

By Ji Beibei

The government intends to address the root causes of the recent deadly attacks against students and tighten security to ensure a safer environment for children and the public.

"We are deeply sorry for the victims' families," Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters Tuesday, a day after a deadly attack in Shaanxi Province.

"In addition to stringent security measures, we have to pay more attention to the root causes that led to the problem, solving social disputes at the grass-roots level. And we are working on it," Wen said.

Meng Jianzhu, the minister of public security, also demanded that local authorities improve communication with the public and asked them to address the legitimate and reasonable appeals of disadvantaged people to pacify social conflicts and disputes.

Meng made the remarks at an emergency nationwide teleconference held Wednesday in response to the latest attack.

The attack at a kindergarten on Wednesday left seven kids and two women dead and 11 injured in a village in Shaanxi. The suspect, Wu Huanming, committed suicide after the cleaver attack.

The public security and education ministries held the meeting, demanding local authorities upgrade security. Meng said that police should cooperate with education authorities to rigorously search for security risks around schools.

And local authorities across the country are exploring ways to beef up security around schools, especially kindergartens and primary schools.

In Beijing, over 2,000 security personnel, including police, were dispatched to patrol kindergartens, primary schools and surrounding areas, China News Service said Tuesday.

In Changsha, Hunan Province, residents now see police carrying guns.

Schools in Dongguan, Guangdong Province, began issuing electronic pass cards to students, which could reportedly dispatch messages to parents informing them of the arrival and departure of their kids.

On March 23, a man named Zheng Minsheng in Nanping, Fujian Province, charged into a primary school and hacked nine kids to death and wounded four. The 43-year-old man was reportedly a former doctor with mental health problems.

On April 28, the day Zheng was executed, another attack happened in which a 33-year-old former teacher broke into a primary school in Leizhou, Guangdong Province, wounding 15 students and a teacher.

The following day, a 47-year-old jobless man wounded 32 in Taixing, Jiangsu Province, with a knife. Hours later on April 30, a farmer in Weifang, Shandong Province, reportedly attacked elementary students with a hammer, wounding five kids before burning himself to death.

In addition to a stronger police presence around schools, some local authorities carried out more stringent screening of people with mental health problems.

Police in Henan Province demanded the screening of mentally ill residents Tuesday and those found ill and considered dangerous will be sent to treatment centers.

The government in Fujian Province Tuesday launched a full-scale screen and risk assessment program. Residents with mental problems will be held until corresponding treatments are done.

It appears that the heightened security is working.

Security guards at a children's entertainment complex in Zhejiang Province inter-cepted an unidentified woman who tried to broke into the facility with a rusty knife at 11 am Tuesday. No casualties were reported, local Metro Express said.

 

[applesauce]

in the short term really nothing can be done other than increase some security and telling guards to shoot-to-kill, in the long term the underlying problem should be looked at and resolved.

 

[below_freezing]

this is a mentality problem. now that i think about it, we should not overreact, but society has to progress.

does the US think about, maybe imperialist warlord policies are wrong, we should become peaceful every time some psycho shoots up a school? no. could it be possible that it's just a bunch of psychos that are copying these attacks, and society as a whole is not responsible?

 

[mDumb]

<Quit with that retarded ****, there's been more school shooting death per capita in the U.S. than in China. This is not a "serious problem", it's a FREAK problem. These psychopaths could've just as well attacked some other random target and spawned a slew of copy cat attacks.>

Is this how you solve your problem? Well, sh*t other countries have the same problem let's just don't give a sh*t!!!!!

<What can China do? Tell me. Surround every single one of the hundreds of thousands of schools? Correct all the societal problems overnight? Sure they'll promise to do "something", and they'll do something inconsequential for publicity, but there's nothing they can realistically do to stop this. It's like how the fudge can India stop the pouring acid on ppl's faces thing? Or the U.S. with the shooting rampages? If some psychopath wants to do it, there's nothing stopping him.>

Sh*t you're supposed to be educated and you're asking these questions? You suppose to come up with solutions not questions.

<what the **** is there to discuss about it ?> Understanding what the problem is and the solutions, you ******* retard!!!!

<MODS close this thread....>
Why? You like to sweep this problem under the rug?

<It is urgly to policicize this sad things~>

This is not about politicization. The intention about this thread is supposed to discuss what cause the problem and the solutions to the problem.

<now shut the **** up about the kids like you actually give a ****. you're just using any excuse to attack china, how despicable. **** like this happens, and it's a sad, sad, affair whenever it happens wherever it happens. only shameless pieces of **** like you would try to politicize it.>

Obviously, you're paranoid piece of sh*t. Sh*t not everything is about politicization or attacking China.

Yes, I do care about children and if you're mentally sound you should care about the children too.

Sometime, I wonder why a lot of mainland Chinese in the US committed murderous crimes. It seems the answer is you guys are ******* paranoid. Instead, of admitting the problem and coming up with solutions you like to sweep it under the rug as if everything is OK.

Remove the ******* PRC flag from your flag you're making the tree looks bad with your responses.

 

[dingyibvs]

If it's not obvious this dude was trolling, it should be obvious now. There's been plenty of friction on this board between posters of various nationalities, but nobody has stooped this low using the deaths of children to troll. I hope the mods take some action.

 

[mDumb]

<If it's not obvious this dude was trolling, it should be obvious now. There's been plenty of friction on this board between posters of various nationalities, but nobody has stooped this low using the deaths of children to troll. I hope the mods take some action.>

Dude, don't cry like a little kid. Come up with a solution or solutions.
Where in the US are you?

Here is from Communists:
May be the Hukou system is responsible for one case, for another house rent or one child policy.

Then, if the route cause is socio-economic.
Solutions:

1. Drop the one child policy now.
2. Abolish the Hukou system.
3. Make economic opportunities for everyone so that everyone will be able to nourish hopes for betterment in life.
4. Form a strong espionage system with a nation wide network to conduct regular surveys of social stability and create domestic policies accordingly.
5. Foster national fraternity through the promotion of patriotic nationalism so that national fellow feeling becomes stronger.
6. Merge all existing ethnicities into one entity promoting inter ethnic marriages.
7. Militarize the society.