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New York Times
June 7, 2006

Crash Of Chinese Surveillance Plane Hurts Effort On Warning System

By Joseph Kahn

BEIJING, June 6 - China's efforts to field an early-warning aircraft that
could help it project power far beyond its borders, and challenge American
intervention in any conflict with Taiwan, were dealt at least a temporary
blow by the crash of a surveillance aircraft on Sunday, defense specialists
in the region said.

The aircraft, described by two government-controlled newspapers in Hong Kong
as a Chinese-made airborne warning and control system, or AWACS, plane,
slammed into a hillside in central Anhui Province, killing all 40
technicians and crew members on board.

The crash was described as one of the worst disasters in the history of the
Chinese Air Force. The Chinese news media said that Guo Boxiong, a top
military official in Beijing, was supervising the investigation into the
accident.

The two Hong Kong newspapers, Ta Kung Pao and Wen Wei Po, carried articles
on Monday that described the crash in more detail than did the rest of the
Chinese news media. They did not identify the model of the plane, but
regional experts suggested that it was most likely the KJ-2000, an
early-warning aircraft that was developed using mostly technology developed
in China.

In addition to the loss of the aircraft, one of four of its kind that China
has built, experts said the deaths of the 40 people on board, including 35
electronics and avionics technicians, could hinder one of China's most
pressing military modernization programs.

"We don't know the cause of the crash and can't say for certain how much of
a problem it will prove to be," said Allen Behm, an expert on the Chinese
military and a former chief strategist in Australia's Defense Department.
"But to lose that much expertise really does hurt."

The United States has a sophisticated fleet of Awacs aircraft that it sees
as giving its naval forces a decisive advantage in sea battles.

China needs such technology if it intends to project force far from its
shores. Without the technology, it would face tactical disadvantages in a
conflict with Japan or Taiwan.

China has repeatedly threatened to attack Taiwan if the island declares
formal independence. The United States has said it would come to Taiwan's
defense if China mounted an attack. Japan, an American military ally, uses
American-made Awacs aircraft.

Chinese officials tried for years to purchase Awacs technology from Israel,
France, Britain and Russia. But the United States strongly opposed the
sales, and Beijing has been forced to develop its own version.

The KJ-2000 is a conversion of a Russian-made IL-76 transport plane into an
Awacs aircraft. The Chinese Air Force has also mounted sophisticated radar
systems on its own Yun-8 transport planes.

Mr. Behm said the number of people on board Sunday's flight suggested that
China was conducting a test of the aircraft. The plane may have carried
three dozen technicians because China wanted to conduct the tests without
transmitting the plane's operating data to the ground.

It might take that precaution because the United States could intercept
air-to-ground signals from a Chinese Awacs plane and gauge the country's
progress in developing the technology, Mr. Behm said.

Lin Chong-pin, a former defense official in Taiwan, said China had pushed
hard to develop early-warning aircraft and probably would not be deterred by
the accident.

"They have the resolve and they have the money," Mr. Lin said. But he added
that China might be somewhat less likely to pursue a risky military
confrontation with Taiwan if it felt its AWACS aircraft was unprepared for
wartime operation.
 
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Sabotage fear as China's secret weapon crashes | The Australian

Sabotage fear as China's secret weapon crashes

A DULL boom shook the misty bamboo forests of Guangde county, 200km southwest of Shanghai, last Sunday week and a plume of smoke rose in the sky.

Within 24 hours, China admitted that a "military aircraft" had crashed, that President Hu Jintao had ordered an investigation and that state honours would be bestowed on the victims.
Security teams sealed off the area, carting away the charred remains of 40 people and collecting wreckage with painstaking care. It looked like a routine military accident.

In fact, the crash would reverberate through Washington and Tel Aviv, revealing details of a covert Chinese espionage effort to copy Israeli technology in an attempt to match the US in any future air and sea battle.

The first clues were given by two Chinese-controlled newspapers in Hong Kong, Ta Kung Pao and Wen Wei Po. On Monday, they printed articles disclosing that the plane was a Chinese version of the formidable Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft flown by the US to manage air, sea and land battles.

They indicated it was a Russian Ilyushin cargo jet, rebuilt to house a conspicuous array of radars and codenamed KJ-2000. The doomed flight, they implied, had been a test mission.

The disaster robbed China of 35 of its best electronic warfare technicians, according to sources in Hong Kong. There were also five crew on board.

With memories fresh in Beijing that a Boeing 767 bought for the use of former president Jiang Zemin was found to be riddled with eavesdropping devices, there were suspicions of sabotage.

The Communist Party showed how seriously it took the crash by entrusting the inquiry to Guo Boxiong, vice-chairman of its central military commission, who handles sensitive security matters.

It was without question a calamity for the Chinese military. But for the Americans, who lost a spy plane forced down by a Chinese interceptor jet in 2000, it was not a cause for sincere mourning. The US Seventh Fleet is ranged off the Chinese coast, in constant contact with Chinese planes and submarines probing its readiness to defend the self-ruled democracy on Taiwan.

The US and Taiwan spend undisclosed billions trying to penetrate the secrecy surrounding China's military build-up.

Chinese spies in Taiwan are known to have scored remarkable successes. In one recent case reported by The Washington Post, they placed in their President's hands the proceedings of a secret standing committee meeting on Taiwan policy within days of its taking place.

American intelligence, by contrast, concentrates on a war fought with science and stealth to preserve its technological advantage. For as long as the Chinese have tried to buy, steal or copy high-grade military technology -- at least since the early 1990s -- the CIA and the White House have sought to frustrate them.

China relies on foreign know-how. British propellers from the Dowty company are fitted to its Y-8 early warning aircraft and radars made by Racal Electronics are installed on its naval surveillance planes. But the crown jewels of electronic warfare are made in the US, which means that China's hunger for secrets can be exploited by its foes.

Late in the Cold War, the CIA supplied faulty computer items to the Soviets, which resulted in death and destruction. So, suspicions of treachery in Beijing are bound to be reinforced by the tale of intrigue and deception that unfolded on examination of what led to the KJ-2000 crash.

Late last year, the local aviation authorities, which in China are controlled by the military, bought sophisticated Monopulse secondary surveillance radars from Telephonics Corp, a subsidiary of the Griffon Corporation, which supplies the US AWACS fleet.

The radars were due for delivery early this year. Their purpose was stated to be civil aviation, but critics in US Congress say the Chinese buy such items for "dual use" in military systems.

According to specifications published by the Federation of American Scientists, such radars can be closely integrated with an AWACS plane to enhance targets. There is now speculation among military attaches in the region that the KJ-2000 may have been testing an unproven capability of this nature when it crashed.

That should provide more than enough for Mr Guo and his bloodhounds from the military commission to get their teeth into.

The Sunday Times
 
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No KJ-2000 crashed, the crash was of the KJ-200/Erieye-style AEW&C.
 
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Any information on if the Pakistan Air Force is interested in using the IL-76 for the Chinese based AWACs? Would be awesome if cleared.
 
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support! as we all known, in the advanced technology areas, we will never believe to get help from west, it is a good tradition that chinese people can do anything by ourselvies. although there still is gap compared with west, however, we will catch and surpass the west in 10 to 20 years.
 
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AN, Please delete your invalid and age old news and learn to contribute in positive manner.

Chinese state-run Xinhua News Agency reported on Sunday 4 June 2006 that a military plane carrying 40 people was lost in the eastern province of Anhui and no survivor was found. The accident happened at about 16:00 Beijing Time (08:00 GMT) on Saturday near the village of Yaocun, in Guangde county. The plane's body hit bamboo forest and its tail fell in fields. Chinese president Hu Jintao has expressed deep condolences over the loss of lives and ordered a full investigation into the cause of the accident.

Although the report did not reveal the detailed model of the plane or the identities of the people onboard, it was later revealed that the plane was in fact the only example of the Y-8F600-based KJ-200 AEW&C aircraft. The aircraft was undergoing system testing when the accident happened. The 40 personnel onboard were from the PLAAF and Nanjing-based 14th Electronic Institute, which was responsible for the development of the ESA radar and avionics systems. The accident also caused a major setback in the KJ-200/”Gaoxin 5” project due to the lost of test data and key personnel involved in the project.
"Gaoxin Project" - Y-8 Electronic Warfare Aircraft - SinoDefence.com

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I don't know if PAF would procure the IL-76 based KJ-2000, but I heavily doubt that PAF would procure the rotating Y-8 based AEW. Firstly the PAF has put its money into AESA based systems such as the Saab Erieye "Horizon" - an improvement of existing versions with still room for improvements. Secondly, the Chinese are increasingly focusing on AESA based AWACS/AEw designs based on their experience in KJ-2000 & KJ-200. If the Americans are phasing into E-2D and a development of their Wedgetail...how long would the legacy era go in the future?

Honestly speaking I don't think PAF will get KJ-2000, but an AESA based AWACS that is in the Wedgetail & Phalcon league. We'll probably see more range and functionality than Erieye, perhaps a commercial jet platform such as A320E or Boeing 737NG and other features like some JSTAR/Sentinel capabilities. This AWACS could come at a time when Pakistan begins to use locally developed & launched military satellites; own data-link formats; and dense network centric environments.

As per tphuang's blog, the new J-10 variant being tested in CAC would be the Chinese bridge towards EF & Rafale - particularly in avionics-ECM/EW & eventually radar. I think the FC-20 and new AWACS would mark a huge improvement in the PAF's combat capability.
 
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i have all my doubts because we cannot afford to work on two projects simultaneously. pakistan does not have the financial resources to carryout such reserch projects. pakistan can be a potential customer but not a joint partner
 
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When does pakistani gets this AWACS aircraft

This is unknown. But Pakistan has signed an agreement with China to jointly develop an AWACs aircraft.

i have all my doubts because we cannot afford to work on two projects simultaneously. pakistan does not have the financial resources to carryout such reserch projects. pakistan can be a potential customer but not a joint partner

Well, Pakistan is paying billions of dollars. There you go.

Gr8 news ,
Thanks to All Mighty Allah.
will some one share , which is the latest version, and compare some other system with this one ?

regards
waiting.

The program started after the cancellation of the A-50I deal with Israel and Russia in July 2000 due to strong U.S. pressure and interference. The Chinese then went on to developing their own AWACS, and the first aircraft made her maiden flight in 2003. Four aircraft have been identified so far. Production of new aircraft will likely be delayed, as it depends on the acquisition of more IL-76 airframes from Russia in the future. Currently, the Russian defense exporter Rosoboronexport has imposed a significant price hike on all future IL-76s delivered to China and India despite previous contract. Both countries are currently in negotiation with Russia regarding this matter as of early 2008. Because of the unreliable foreign supplier source, China had developed a backup known as the KJ-200 by installing the entire system on board the Shaanxi Y-8, and this aircraft has a similar configuration like that of the KJ-2000, and the platform is characterized by the triple tail configuration (one large and two small).

The current KJ-2000 AWACS in Chinese service is equipped with a domestic Active Electronically Scanned Array active phased array radar system similar to the Swedish Ericsson Erieye radar. The radar is designed by the Research Institute of Electronic Technology (also more commonly known as the 14th Institute) at Nanjing, and it utilizes the experience gained from the 14th Institute's earlier indigenously developed Type H/LJG-346 SAPARS (Shipborne Active Phased Array Radar System) that was completed in 1998 (the same Type H/LJG-346 SAPARS was also the predecessor of the active phased array radar system onboard PLAN Lanzhou class destroyer). The Chinese Government has claimed that the domestic radar is superior to the Israeli radar, and that it can track more targets at a greater range. The radar is arranged in the same way as that of A-50I.

KJ-2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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can anyone post the benefits of this craft.
 
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if it is copareable to the eireye then it is good news to although if it is not much advanced as the e3
 
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I guess better not to try any border tension
what will happen its one on one chance, either India win oR PaKIStaN!!
 
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