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New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?
"In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.
For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

India can't match China's military force: Navy Chief - India News - IBNLive
 
Why should we ?

It is not about whether you "should", it is that you "cannot".

New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force.

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

You should have taken your opportunity when our economies (and thus our military spending) were the same size, i.e. before the 1990's.

But oh wait...... that didn't work either.

As your own Navy Chief says, your politicians lack the stomach.
 
New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?
"In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.
For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

we dont need to match china.

our aim to have enough strength to keep china at bay. we have that strength.

furthermore Indian navy is undergoing massive expansion which will enable our navy to flex its muscle against PLAN if plan does any misadventure.
 
It is not about whether you "should", it is that you "cannot".

Matching ship for ship with China is not necessary for India because we don't have a US or a Japan or a South Korea.

We are a defensive force w.r.t China and in that sense our Navy is more than sufficient for providing an effective deterrance with Mother Nature too lending her helping hand.

You should have taken your opportunity when our economies (and thus our military spending) were the same size, i.e. before the 1990's.

But oh wait... that didn't work either.

As your own Navy Chief says, your politicians lack the stomach.

Not necessary to match China for the above mentioned reason. Our politicians though lacking in stomach don't lack in brains.

Next which topic you are going to jump to - from junks to trade deficit to poverty to arms race and now to ?
 
It is not about whether you "should", it is that you "cannot".



You should have taken your opportunity when our economies (and thus our military spending) were the same size, i.e. before the 1990's.

But oh wait...... that didn't work either.

As your own Navy Chief says, your politicians lack the stomach.

agreed with the bolded part.

and about opportunity> i guess your army hasn't forgotten nathu la, chola.


According to James Calvin, an analyst from the U.S. Navy, India gained many benefits from the 1962 conflict. This war united the country as never before. India got 32,000 square miles (8.3 million hectares, 83,000sq.km.) of disputed territory even if she felt that NEFA was hers all along. The new Indian republic had avoided international alignments; by asking for help during the war, India demonstrated her willingness to accept military aid from several sectors. And, finally, India recognised the serious weaknesses in her army. She would more than double her military manpower in the next two years and she would work hard to resolve the military's training and logistic problems. India's efforts to improve her military posture significantly enhanced her army's capabilities and preparedness.[7]
 
Matching ship for ship with China is not necessary for India because we don't have a US or a Japan or a South Korea.

We are a defensive force w.r.t China and in that sense our Navy is more than sufficient for providing an effective deterrance with Mother Nature too lending her helping hand.

He was not talking about just the navy. Here is what he said:

"Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

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Our politicians though lacking in stomach don't lack in brains.

That explains the last Sino-Indian war. Bear in mind, back then our economies were equal, today our economy is four times bigger than India's, with commensurate military spending.

Like your own Navy Chief said, the "gap" is growing bigger every day.
 
Bear in mind, back then our economies were equal, today our economy is four times bigger than India's, with commensurate military spending.

Like your own Navy Chief said, the "gap" is growing bigger every day.

Right, we appreciate your economic growth and we're also working towards it. We accept the reality unlike our neighbours who are always in the denial mode. Don't you think that you should appreciate our art of accepting rather than talking about 1962?

We accept that there's gap but does that mean that we're scared of you or something? There is even bigger gap between USA and China, does that mean that China is a stupid country?

Grow up man, in all your posts you come up with 1962, poverty in India, and balls, don't you have anything else to do?
 
navy is most important to counter china.... If our navy can grow strong enough to blockade the malacca strait, then any war can be ended swiftly in our favor, as china imports 80 percent of its oil through the malacca strait..... With no oil, they just wont be able to continue any offensive for more than a week at most.....
Its good to see indian navy doing just that by expanding and establishing naval bases in andaman islands...
 
Right, we appreciate your economic growth and we're also working towards it.

Yeah right, all you guys can do is whine about Chinese "junk", even though your electronic devices have the same Chinese "junk" in them.

And yes, your country has had a national paranoia about China since 1962. Maybe you shouldn't have hosted our largest separatist group in 1959, if you couldn't handle the consequences.
 
navy is most important to counter china.... If our navy can grow strong enough to blockade the malacca strait, then any war can be ended swiftly in our favor, as china imports 80 percent of its oil through the malacca strait..... With no oil, they just wont be able to continue any offensive for more than a week at most.....
Its good to see indian navy doing just that by expanding and establishing naval bases in andaman islands...

Firstly, you can't attack non-Chinese flagged vessels, without declaring war on another country. So we can easily bring in more oil, by using vessels with non-Chinese flags.

Secondly, you think you can beat our anti-ship missiles and submarines? We are the only nation, with an operational ASBM "carrier killer" ballistic missile. Your ships won't last long.

Thirdly, try declaring war on China, and your politicians will show their true colours once again. And you will lose again.
 
The assestment is spot on , although the pakistan threat is real- it can be handled. right now vietnam, PH, etc hoped it had done what India is doing...
 
China's strategy with Pakistan indeed prevents India's dominance and conquest in Asia.

However, naturally we don't really possess the evil intention to harm India. :coffee:

Your words does not make any difference what you do on ground that makes sense......
 
Firstly, you can't attack non-Chinese flagged vessels, without declaring war on another country. So we can easily bring in more oil, by using vessels with non-Chinese flags.

Secondly, you think you can beat our anti-ship missiles and submarines? We are the only nation, with an operational ASBM "carrier killer" ballistic missile. Your ships won't last long.

Thirdly, try declaring war on China, and your politicians will show their true colours once again. And you will lose again.

buddy if it were so easy to go through a blockade ( changing flags), there would be no point in putting up one. We can escort the ships with diff flags and if they go anywhere near chinese waters , we sink/stop them.
Yes we know your navy is very powerful,thats why i added we need to increase our naval might, also you guys will be a long way from home,(if you try to break the blockade) surrounded by countries that dont like you( phillipines, vietnam etc) all of whom will at least be secretly supporting us...... Not a pretty situation for any navy, no matter how powerful
 
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