China, not India, is the world’s biggest democracy, claims Global Times

[Broccoli]

How many votes Xi Jinping got in last election? In what provinces he was most popular and where he got least votes?

 

[beijingwalker]

How many votes Xi Jinping got in last election? In what provinces he was most popular and where he got least votes?

Meritocrazy means only very capable elites can be voted within the group into the office, that's why China doesn't have comedians and actors being voted into the high office, Chiinese leaders are all scholars, professinonal politicians and engineers.
People like to vote for their like minded candidates, if the majority of the population believe cow pee can cure all diseases, they will vote for a candidate sharing the same belief, it'll become a vicious cycle and the whole nation can never get out of backwardness and poverty.
Chinese nation is a result oriented people, as long as the government and leaders can deliver good results, progress and prosperity, the general population would be content, we don't support throwing billions into so call general elections which are literally popularity contests wasting our taxpayers money, which only bring endless infightings, disunity and slow the country down.

 

[beijingwalker]

China's meritocracy: Selection and election of officials

China has a unique system of selection and election of officials, which Canadian scholar Daniel A. Bell has described as "political meritocracy."

Unlike Western models, China's selection of officials is focused on ability and merit.

"Political meritocracy" is the idea that the political system should aim to select and promote leaders with superior qualities, Bell expounded in a National Interestarticle.

This is in line with the Confucian tradition of meritocracy, which is deeply entrenched in Chinese political culture. After all, China was the first country to invent a civil service examination system, known as the "Keju."

As a communique released after the fourth plenary session of the 19th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in October described, one of the 13 notable strengths of China's state and governance systems is "selecting officials based on integrity and ability and on the basis of merit regardless of background to cultivate more talented individuals."

Criteria and procedures

China has cultivated a large number of outstanding political talents with continuous training, practice and assessment. As an old saying in China goes, "It takes seven years to see if a tree can grow into suitable building materials." This is a good summary of China's rationale for training and selecting officials.

Some basic criteria to evaluate Party and government officials include loyalty, morality, knowledge, ability, leadership, and style of work.

When selecting officials, priority should be given to those who have grassroots working experience, dare to take on responsibilities, and are adept at taking action, according to the regulation on the selection and appointment of Party and government officials released in May.

Experience in areas like poverty eradication, job creation, local economic growth, social development and, increasingly, environmental protection, are key criteria.

A good example of this is the profiles of the top leaders elected at China's 19th CPC National Congress. Six of the seven have run provinces or provincial-level municipalities – many of which, in terms of population or GDP, are equivalent to multiple nations combined.

After meeting those criteria, candidates need to go through a vigorous process including proposal, democratic recommendation, appraisal, and discussion before finally being appointed.

The CPC has also established a complete training system, to help officials better meet the needs of the new situation and new tasks.
Chinese model is about leadership rather than showmanship

It's not far-fetched to say the Chinese model is more about leadership than the showmanship seen in the West, commented Zhang Weiwei, professor of international relations at Fudan University.

Zhang said China's meritocratic governance challenges the traditional dichotomy of democracy versus autocracy.
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How China chooses its leaders

From China's point of view, the nature of the state, including its legitimacy, has to be defined by its substance: that is good governance, competent leadership and successfully meeting the needs of the people. So despite some deficiencies, the Chinese polity has delivered the world's fastest growing economy and has vastly improved living standards for most Chinese, he elaborated.

The Chinese system of meritocracy today makes it inconceivable that anyone like George W. Bush or Donald Trump could ever come close to the position of top leadership. A U.S. president often names close associates who lack relevant political experience to important positions.

Zhang argues that while the system of selection is not perfect, it is a match for alternative models and has delivered for the Chinese people.

China's meritocracy: Selection and election of officials

China has a unique system of selection and election of officials, which Canadian scholar Daniel A. Bell described as "political meritocracy."

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[Sharma Ji]

a bunch of boring compliant robots is what that sounds like @beijingwalker

having said that, China has done quite well for itself.. double edged sword, this authoritarian stuff

they'll get disappeared in no time, if Chinese citizens ever come on news shows or on twitter etc and start screaming insults at the CCP

you don't even have an alternative to it.

electoral politics burdens India in many ways.

 

[beijingwalker]

a bunch of boring compliant robots is what that sounds like @beijingwalker

having said that, China has done quite well for itself.. double edged sword, this authoritarian stuff

they'll get disappeared in no time, if Chinese citizens ever come on news shows or on twitter etc and start screaming insults at the CCP

LOL, So funny, last week you guys claimed that Chinese social media was filled with anti government outcries and this week you guys claim anyone who opposes the government will disappear in China, how pathetic.

Chinese social media abuzz with rumours of Xi Jinping stepping down for COVID-19 mismanagement

The rising rumours about Xi Jinping stepping down started after a meeting of the party politburo standing committee, which is the collective leadership group that rules China. Further, a video made by a Canadian-based blogger was doing the rounds on social media before China censored it.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[Sharma Ji]

LOL, So funny, last week you guys claimed that

what's actually funny is your immediate jumping to a conclusion and bunching me in with a "you guys" jibe.. weak

you're the collectivist ant here, bro.. I can and do think for myself, I can and do propagate for political parties/ideologies that I align with... but you can only dream of it.. CCP or bust.

but they're doing some good capitalist work in China so that is a good thing.

 

[beijingwalker]

what's actually funny is your immediate jumping to a conclusion and bunching me in with a "you guys" jibe.. weak

you're the collectivist ant here, bro.. I can and do think for myself, I can and do propagate for political parties/ideologies that I align with... but you can only dream of it.. CCP or bust.

but they're doing some good capitalist work in China so that is a good thing.

We are never stuck in so called Capitalism vs Communism ideology trap like you guys, we just take whatever benefits us, or maybe you can call this practice Confucianism or whatever names. what is capitalism and what is communism? who has the authrority to define them? Chinese nation is very practical and pragmatic, ideologies are the last things to come to our minds.

 

[beijingwalker]

I can and do think for myself, I can and do propagate for political parties/ideologies that I align with... but you can only dream of it.. CCP or bust.

So your mind, not influenced by your media or propaganda, tells you that anyone speaking against the government will disappear in China?

 

[Sharma Ji]

So your mind, not influenced by your media or propaganda, tells you that anyone speaking against the government will disappear in China?

Correct.. my mind is not influenced by what anyone says at all.. also have a vote to kick out Modi or whoever else

tell us then, who mainland dwellers can get on TV, rant against the CCP/Xi there.. and will do it every day of the year without fear of repercussion ?

don't get me wrong, China have done pretty well for themselves.. just not a fan of authoritarian systems anywhere.

 

[Cheepek]

Didn't India recently ask for VPN data? Also, doesn't India block TikTok and many other Chinese/Pakistani apps and websites?

No, India has asked all VPN companies in India to store all Indian data in India for 5 years.
We don't appreciate Chinese products and we will keep banning them, it has nothing to do with democracy.

 

[beijingwalker]

Correct.. my mind is not influenced by what anyone says at all.. also have a vote to kick out Modi or whoever else

tell us then, who mainland dwellers can get on TV, rant against the CCP/Xi there.. and will do it every day of the year without fear of repercussion ?

don't get me wrong, China have done pretty well for themselves.. just not a fan of authoritarian systems anywhere.

Chinese people are not interested in cursing the government just for the sake of being able to do so, we give constructive criticism and more often than not the government receiev them seriously and try the best to fix them. What's the point of swearing and cursing around the clock but nothing can be changed or fixed? We have no time to play blaming games like your politicians, we only care about getting things done quickly and properly.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Chinese people are not interested in cursing the government just for the sake of being able to do so, we give constructive criticism and more often than not the government receiev them seriously and try the best to fix them. What's the point of swearing and cursing around the clock but nothing can be changed or fixed? We have no time to play blaming games like your politicians, we only care about getting things done quickly and properly.

I honestly really have no idea of the political and societal stuff that goes inside China and your society so I am not qualified to say anything besides.. the people should ideally decide who gets to the seat of power.

 

[beijingwalker]

I honestly really have no idea of the political and societal stuff that goes inside China and your society so I am not qualified to say anything besides.. the people should ideally decide who gets to the seat of power.

I guess you also don't know ROC was one of the first countries in Asia to try democracy in 1911, it turned out to be a disaster, Chinse culture and values don't match well with western democracy and this is why we made this current system by our own.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I guess you also don't know ROC was one of the first countries in Asia to try democracy in 1911, it turned out to be a disaster, Chinse culture and values don't match well with western democracy and this is why we made this current system by our own.

Fair enough, if it works, it works.

I like a bit of the spice that the relatively more freedom to criticize the power structure that democracy affords.

 

[beijingwalker]

Fair enough, if it works, it works.

I like a bit of the spice that the relatively more freedom to criticize the power structure that democracy affords.

People have different preferences and priorities based on the culture they are brought up in


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