China must recover territory ‘looted' by neighbours, said PLA General

[ares]

of course you defeated us in 2 weeks through deceit, through terrorism using mukti bahini which unleashed death and destruction in bengal, when mukti bahini was unable to defeat pakistani army and when it was exhausted you invaded,

Whats worse is pakistan army was fighting 1600 kilometres away, it was by far the largest distance any army was fighting from its land since WW2 and it took you 2 weeks to defeat an army which had no air and naval support.

Do not twist history..it was Pakistani armed forces which declared war on India with operation chengiz khan...with your belief that preemptive strikes will destroy Indian airforce.

And if you did not deploy enough troops/aircrafts/ navy to defend East Pakistan ..is it our fault?..It is you who believed that "Defence of east lies in west."

 

[Rafi]

Yes like you do with the erstwhile Tibetan Govt in Exile, you supported the insurgents fully. It's just when you back stabbed PRC the PLA kicked the crap out of you.

 

[ares]

The Sino-Pakistan alliance is stronger now than it has ever been.

If India attacks Pakistan, not only are they attacking our close ally, India would also be threatening our access to Gwadar, pipelines and KKH.

If India attacks Pakistan, they will be hit on two fronts, by both China and Pakistan.

You say such ..but no special events transpired in Sino-Pakistan relationship ..which already did not exist in 1960s and 70s

 

[mikkix]

Rafi asked me only for first one..

go back to your post and see who asked you.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

you missed some in your avatar......

Who would that be?

 

[ares]

Yes like you do with the erstwhile Tibetan Govt in Exile, you supported the insurgents fully. It's just when you back stabbed PRC the PLA kicked the crap out of you.

But after that we beat the crap out you!!

PS : don't get so emotional

 

[Rafi]

You say such ..but no special events transpired in Sino-Pakistan relationship ..which already did not exist in 1960s and 70s

Pakistan is not the same Pakistan of the 60's and 70's and neither is the Peoples Republic of China.

 

[PureAryan]

Do not twist history..it was Pakistani armed forces which declared war on India with operation chengiz khan...with your belief that preemptive strikes will destroy Indian airforce.

And if you did not deploy enough troops/aircrafts/ navy to defend East Pakistan ..is it our fault?..It is you who believed that "Defence of east lies in west."

Operation Chengiz Khan was carried out on 3rd december on western pakistan but you invaded east pakistan on 21 november. I dont have to give you any sources to prove to you, Indira asked menakshaw in April 71 to invade east pakistan, menakshaw said it would only be possible in winter season because during summer bengal becomes flooded with rain you have been planning it for months and you succeeded, you were provoking pakistani army by regularly firing army posts but when the army didn't retaliate you invaded.Read the memoir of menakshaw

 

[ares]

Pakistan is not the same Pakistan of the 60's and 70's and neither is the Peoples Republic of China.

Your argument being that India is the same??

 

[ChinaRocks]

Yes like you do with the erstwhile Tibetan Govt in Exile, you supported the insurgents fully. It's just when you back stabbed PRC the PLA kicked the crap out of you.

Yes india experty is backstabbing and provokation but it aint that bad if you are strong and can stand up to your enermy.otherwise it just plain stupidity and deserve a good kick in the assss just like what happened in 1962.

 

[ares]

Operation Chengiz Khan was carried out on 3rd december on western pakistan but you invaded east pakistan on 21 november. I dont have to give you any sources to prove to you, Indira asked menakshaw in April 71 to invade east pakistan, menakshaw said it would only be possible in winter season because during summer bengal becomes flooded with rain you have been planning it for months and you succeeded, you were provoking pakistani army by regularly firing army posts but when the army didn't retaliate you invaded.Read the memoir of menakshaw

From 21 November onwards minor skirmishes were taking place...war was not declared by either side...raiding parties use to enter fight and withdraw..this even consolidated by fact the 3 Pakistani Sabre were shot down in Indian airspace on 22nd November while on a strafing mission.

Funny part is now you complain that you were fighting on two different fronts separated by thousand miles but it was you who chose to fight on two fronts..you could have easily concentrated your forces in east and let defence of East be in East it self...as Indian had no strategic objectives in the west.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You say such ..but no special events transpired in Sino-Pakistan relationship ..which already did not exist in 1960s and 70s

Wrong.

Didn't you read my post?

Pakistan has now become a "vital artery" for China, with Gwadar port, oil pipelines, and the KKH. The supply lines run through the Northern areas of Pakistan, into China's western border. Any attack on Pakistan, is a direct attack on Chinese interests.

This did not exist previously, and it's important to note that Sino-Pakistani relations have become much stronger since 2001, during which time Pakistan has become much closer to China at the expense of American influence there.

 

[DV RULES]

What about China giving back Aksai Chin back to India?

Or the land that Pakistan gave to China (can someone explain why Pakistan did this?)

You went off from topic, there is discussion about china & its disputed territorial problems.
Pakistan & China hasn’t any territorial problems so let focus on topic.

 

[6642.CN]

Yes india experty is backstabbing and provokation but it aint that bad if you are strong and can stand up to your enermy.otherwise it just plain stupidity and deserve a good kick in the assss just like what happened in 1962.

three Tibetan separatists have fled China's Sichuan province and you know where they have gone to? india. now judge how effective indian network is in China. you guys keep boasting, india will split China's Tibet. Pakistan underestimated india in 1971 and paid the price. the Chinese govt is doing the same. one of the indian weapons that no one has is that it can deceive people easily, as one Pakistani member has already said, india defeated Pakistan in 1971 within two weeks through deceit.

 

[ares]

Wrong.

Didn't you read my post?

Pakistan has now become a "vital artery" for China, with Gwadar port, oil pipelines, and the KKH. The supply lines run through the Northern areas of Pakistan, into China's western border. Any attack on Pakistan, is a direct attack on Chinese interests.

This did not exist previously, and it's important to note that Sino-Pakistani relations have become much stronger since 2001, during which time Pakistan has become much closer to China at the expense of American influence there.

Neither Gwadar has been completed..nor KKH is active...which supply line running through Pakistan northern areas to China?? ..what has it supplied so far ??

What has happened in 2001..which have made Pakistan- China come so close ..if your are referring to starting of WOT..Pakistan is still part of it..and recent wikileaks have shown amount of influence even an American ambassador enjoy over entire Pakistani politcal setup and even military brass(such that appointment of Pakistan air force chief is done after approval from Americans.)