China labels US a ‘villain’ after latest Snowden claims

[shuttler]

They don't have the right to do any of that according to international law, but the US doesn't follow international law, now does it? The United States of America follows US laws, The Peoples Republic of China follows Chinese law, Russian Federation follows Russian laws.

why are they bitching all the time presenting themselves as the world police!
and they are intruding into another sovereignty countries company universtities communication operations and acting as if they know nothing until revealed by Snowden

Again, why should they care about what you think, when you're not even a US citizen?

WTF, they hack into the emails our universities ..what that has to do for crimes with the us citizen status and pretending innocent all the time

They don't have to answer to anyone but themselves, because they're in the position to ignore any argument anyone has against him. They're not a superpower just for show, they exercise this title's privileges quite frequently.

BS only slaves like you will believe in the villains

 

[Okemos]

Was that directed towards me?



They don't have the right to do any of that according to international law, but the US doesn't follow international law, now does it? The United States of America follows US laws, The Peoples Republic of China follows Chinese law, Russian Federation follows Russian laws.

Again, why should they care about what you think, when you're not even a US citizen?

They don't have to answer to anyone but themselves, because they're in the position to ignore any argument anyone has against him. They're not a superpower just for show, they exercise this title's privileges quite frequently.

Careful with what you are leading. International laws are codes of conducts that were designed to solve disputes between nations, esp. after WWII. Otherwise, if a country only cares about its national interest without regard to other nations or international peace, then are you suggesting a country has the right to invade for its national interest? If yes, I guess nazi Germany's invasion of Europe, and Japan's invasion of Asia are justified?

Of course, you can say that America is doing exactly that, invading other countries to protect its national interests, but do we really want to go that road and turn America into Nazi Germany?

 

[armchairPrivate]

The United Stasi of Amurika is piping mad. I tell you.

The following quotes are from RT.com and I can't stop laughing.

"We expect the Russian government to look at all options available to expel Mr. Snowden back to the U.S. to face justice for the crimes with which he is charged," the White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden stressed.

Earlier, the US strongly objected to the authorities in Hong Kong and China at the decision to let Snowden flee through their territories.

The US Justice Department has been in “continual contact” with Hong Kong authorities since the prominent whistleblower Edward Snowden first revealed his identity and whereabouts on June 10, Reuters reports.

Hong Kong did not raise any issues in regard the sufficiency of the documents provided with the US request for Snowden’s arrest, the official claimed. “In light of this, we find their decision to be particularly troubling,” the official said.

 

[Okemos]

The United Stasi of Amurika is piping mad. I tell you.

The following quotes are from RT.com and I can't stop laughing.

"We expect the Russian government to look at all options available to expel Mr. Snowden back to the U.S. to face justice for the crimes with which he is charged," the White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden stressed.

Earlier, the US strongly objected to the authorities in Hong Kong and China at the decision to let Snowden flee through their territories.

The US Justice Department has been in “continual contact” with Hong Kong authorities since the prominent whistleblower Edward Snowden first revealed his identity and whereabouts on June 10, Reuters reports.

Hong Kong did not raise any issues in regard the sufficiency of the documents provided with the US request for Snowden’s arrest, the official claimed. “In light of this, we find their decision to be particularly troubling,” the official said.

So is America going to turn over all those separatists, political dissidents over to source countries? You know, per America's logic, whether those people are criminals should be solely decided by source countries and the charges don't have to conform to American legal standards, because they are not America.

This really sets dangerous precedent and is short sighted for world peace.

 

[That Guy]

Careful with what you are leading. International laws are codes of conducts that were designed to solve disputes between nations, esp. after WWII. Otherwise, if a country only cares about its national interest without regard to other nations or international peace, then are you suggesting a country has the right to invade for its national interest? If yes, I guess nazi Germany's invasion of Europe, and Japan's invasion of Asia are justified?

Of course, you can say that America is doing exactly that, invading other countries to protect its national interests, but do we really want to go that road and turn America into Nazi Germany?

You misunderstand, there seems to be this mind set that I'm somehow defending the US, on the contrary, I'm simply presenting their mindset.

Since the inception of the UN, the US has either manipulated or outright ignored what international laws have to say. In it's own mind, it has the right and freedom to ignore whatever criticism it wants, and continue on it's business. Iraq is a perfect example of this mindset in action.

They can do whatever they want, because no one is standing up to say "enough is enough", even this later development of China calling the US a villain. Has China actually taken any appropriate action against the US's hacking and spying on China? As of yet, no it hasn't. Compare this in contrast to what the US has done to alleged Chinese hacking into US computers; The US has taken a firm stance, and has already declared that cyber espionage is equivalent to declaring war.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The US has taken a firm stance, and has already declared that cyber espionage is equivalent to declaring war.

Yeah, like 2 years ago. They declared hacking attacks were an act of war.

Then for the past 2 years they did nothing but whine and cry about Chinese hacking attacks on the US, without declaring war.

Only begging for us to buy more US treasury bonds.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The United Stasi of Amurika is piping mad. I tell you.

Earlier, the US strongly objected to the authorities in Hong Kong and China at the decision to let Snowden flee through their territories.

And our answer is: Diu nei lo mo.

 

[That Guy]

Yeah, like 2 years ago. They declared hacking attacks were an act of war.

Then for the past 2 years they did nothing but whine and cry about Chinese hacking attacks on the US, without declaring war.

Only begging for us to buy more US treasury bonds.

Yet, they still did something, has the chinese government? Not to my knowledge. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

 

[gambit]

Same reason Chinese travel to every other country in the world. Besides, we found America before the Europeans, so it's our country. Hopefully we will populate America and turn it into our North American colony one day.

Good comic book. Is that what your 50-cent army shift stupor-visor read and passed to you?

See this...

Harley Davidson National Rally in China - In Focus - The Atlantic

It looks like culturally speaking, China is going to be an American colony. A poor sod like you who probably never left his female scarce village can only dream on what China can do to US, but the Chinese with money know better.

Yeah, like 2 years ago. They declared hacking attacks were an act of war.

Then for the past 2 years they did nothing but whine and cry about Chinese hacking attacks on the US, without declaring war.

Only begging for us to buy more US treasury bonds.

Wrong. Looks like you have a poor understanding of what that article mean. Bring it back and I will explain it to you.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Statement was made two years ago:

BBC News - US Pentagon to treat cyber-attacks as 'acts of war'

Since then, the US has cried about Chinese hacking countless numbers of times without doing anything, except sending Hillary Clinton over to beg for more loans.

 

[gambit]

people will go to any where they think they can get rich quick, do you really think migrants in America FROM OTHER COUNTRIES go to usa becoz they love and understand America values

Yes. I work with many Chinese engineers who became US citizens, bought homes in the US, and will only visit China.

Statement was made two years ago:

BBC News - US Pentagon to treat cyber-attacks as 'acts of war'

Since then, the US has cried about Chinese hacking countless numbers of times without doing anything, except sending Hillary Clinton over to beg for more loans.

Like I said, a poor understanding.

Here is the relevant passage...

Cyber-attacks from foreign nations that threaten widespread US civilian casualties, like cutting off power supplies or shutting down emergency-responder networks, could be treated as an act of aggression under the new policy.

Basically, if the break-in threatens, not yet do any damages, the stability of financial institutions, infrastructure power, transportation safety, etc...Then said intrusions could be construed as acts of war. The retaliation is up to the Pres, of course.

Take your time to read.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Take your time to read.

Take your time to read further.

The Pentagon's planning follows an international strategy statement on cyber-security, issued by the White House on 16 May.

The US would "respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would to any other threat to our country", stated the White House in plain terms.

"We reserve the right to use all necessary means - diplomatic, informational, military, and economic - as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law, in order to defend our nation, our allies, our partners and our interests."

Hostile acts in cyberspace will be treated as they would treat any other threat to the country.

That's in their own words. The only thing they've managed to do for far is whine and ask for more loans. Oh, and let's not forget about Snowden, showing up their hypocrisy to the whole world.

 

[gambit]

Take your time to read further.



Hostile acts in cyberspace will be treated as they would treat any other threat to the country.

That's in their own words. The only thing they've managed to do for far is whine and ask for more loans. Oh, and let's not forget about Snowden, showing up their hypocrisy to the whole world.

Acts that results in damages. Get it? The sad part for you is that you relied solely on news articles and nothing else.

Do you know what is a set of 'standing rules of engagement' (SROE)? Of course not. As you are a conscript reject, this would be unknown to you.

For example...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/call/call_96-6_roeappa1.htmv

All miitaries, including the combat inexperienced PLA, have varieties ROEs. Most details of ROEs are classified, as they should be. News articles give only the most general information of ROEs. Our SROE on cyber attacks is no different than that for physical combat.

 

[gambit]

Alot of also come to

Yeah...As tourists.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Yeah...As tourists.

No, plenty come here to live as well. CNN is always doing stories on that.

Do you know what is a set of 'standing rules of engagement' (SROE)? Of course not. As you are a conscript reject, this would be unknown to you.

The only conscript reject here is you, since you don't have any proof for your claim that you are a US veteran. With this made up story of joining the US army even when they were using Napalm on your country of birth Vietnam.