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China, Japan agree to improve political ties

Can we say the same about Vietnam? give back all our islands you steal in SCS and we will wish to become Vietnam's friend...LMAO

Before that, you must prove "Vietnam stolen your islands"
We're ready to come with you to PCA or any intl arbitration that follow the intl laws to make clear about that.

In my opinion, we found Vietnam never killed any Chinese to take occupation of any island,
In contrast, China is always behind Vietnam or PH in some shoal or islets ... and must use murders, force to have some. Another word "Murder and Rob"
 
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Before that, you must prove "Vietnam stolen your islands"
We're ready to come with you to PCA or any intl arbitration that follow the intl laws to make clear about that.

In my opinion, we found Vietnam never killed any Chinese to take occupation of any island,
In contrast, China is always behind Vietnam or PH in some shoal or islets ... and must use murders, force to have some. Another word "Murder and Rob"
You are on Chinese island in SCS, :coffee:
 
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Before that, you must prove "Vietnam stolen your islands"
We're ready to come with you to PCA or any intl arbitration that follow the intl laws to make clear about that.

In my opinion, we found Vietnam never killed any Chinese to take occupation of any island,
In contrast, China is always behind Vietnam or PH in some shoal or islets ... and must use murders, force to have some. Another word "Murder and Rob"

Why we need to go to PCA or Intel arbitration for something that is belong to us, this is like saying China go to PCA to question the legitimacy of America discovery, China will have nothing to lose by doing that...and you think American will accept?
 
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Two elephants in the same room

The Japanese have very low opinion on Chinese. Considering Chinese bullying behavior in the east and south sea, nobody should be surprised.
 
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Two elephants in the same room

Well, I don't think japan is a elephant compare to China refers to neither the aspects of economic, military nor politic.

Economic: China's GDP is almost 3 times of japan and could be 5 times by 2020.

Military:
-Air force : 30 years old F-15J and F2 Vs J-10(A,B,C),J-11(A,B,C,D),J-16, J-15 and J -20(soon)
-Navy: japan can only build halls for their warships. Engines, missiles and radar are all from US or other NATO countries.
-Army: :sarcastic:
(Don't need me to mention about PLA missile force and nuclear force.)

Politic: China is one of P5 with veto power at UN.
 
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Wish Japan and China become friends like before !!!
China should abandon the request for Senkaku islands which Japan controlling.
If Abe or future Japan PM needs to survive their political career. They need to give up Senkaku island. It just a few piece of rock and not whole hundred billion of USD that will help lift Japan economy out of stagnant and explode with great progress.

Same lesson for many SE asia countries who has overlapping claim with China.

Abe give the first sight of surrender by trying to be friendly with China by initiate a talk with China. He know the talk will not end up more business for Japan as long as Japan still want to keep Senkaku and not removing A class criminal tablet from the Shrine. His Abenomic is nothing but a disaster for Japan. Only China can save Japan. China has trillion USD to help Japan. Japan just needs to go back to Tang dynasty times r/s with China to revive Japan. China is big brother while Japan is the little brother.

US, a cheap allies for Japan is too poor to help Japan economic :lol:
 
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If Abe or future Japan PM needs to survive their political career. They need to give up Senkaku island. It just a few piece of rock and not whole hundred billion of USD that will help lift Japan economy out of stagnant and explode with great progress.

Same lesson for many SE asia countries who has overlapping claim with China.

Abe give the first sight of surrender by trying to be friendly with China by initiate a talk with China. He know the talk will not end up more business for Japan as long as Japan still want to keep Senkaku and not removing A class criminal tablet from the Shrine. His Abenomic is nothing but a disaster for Japan. Only China can save Japan. China has trillion USD to help Japan. Japan just needs to go back to Tang dynasty times r/s with China to revive Japan. China is big brother while Japan is the little brother.

US, a cheap allies for Japan is too poor to help Japan economic :lol:
forget it. you can dream until you fall dead. the japanese are proud people, they will never bow down to China. Never. they rather commit suicide. that is the difference between us. in the past, we bowed down to chinese for the sake of peace and stability in East Asia.

Japan needs to cooperate more with Vietnam. we are a country on the rise.

you can throw your money out of window or elsewhere, but you can never buy the japanese people.
 
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Wish Japan and China become friends like before !!!
China should abandon the request for Senkaku islands which Japan controlling.
I don‘t know why you see Japan contrilling this island, chinese maritime surveillance ships have patroled and exercised law enforcements for a long time in this area so clearly they can not seize control of the island, we should push it harder and harder until Japan relinquish any official existence in this region.

Two elephants in the same room

The Japanese have very low opinion on Chinese. Considering Chinese bullying behavior in the east and south sea, nobody should be surprised.
So...does it matter? Sure if Japanese people had liked China it would be great, but...on any territorial dispute, does the opinion of your rival really matter? I think as long as we can get what we want, they can think anything of us, the real matter is, can they stop us? As for now, we can see China is pushing forward, I won't worry about the Japanese opinion until we are really hindered.
 
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just few years years ago, Vietnamese students belonged to top 5 international students in China, and now dropped not even seen under top 10, since you begin to bully Vietnam. in Japan and Korea, we are at the second place among international students.

that tells us everything.

japan is a country of the future, while china of the past.

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Have you been living in a cave? Japan was hot in the 80s. The "Japan is the future" boat sank 20 years ago.
 
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forget it. you can dream until you fall dead. the japanese are proud people, they will never bow down to China. Never. they rather commit suicide. that is the difference between us. in the past, we bowed down to chinese for the sake of peace and stability in East Asia.

Japan needs to cooperate more with Vietnam. we are a country on the rise.

you can throw your money out of window or elsewhere, but you can never buy the japanese people.
Then why do they want to improve ties and initiate the first step with China? It is a first sign of Japanese weakness. Precisely, they are proud people, they want to stay ahead of the South Korean. The Japanese will feel ashamed if they even lagged behind South Korean.

China is world second largest economy and a huge country with huge potential. There is no shame staying behind bigger China or lagging behind. But if Japan lags behind Korean, a country much smaller than Japan? Then that will be ashamed. :D

China can help Japan maintain that edge if Japanese submit to China. China is powerful economically.
 
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just few years years ago, Vietnamese students belonged to top 5 international students in China, and now dropped not even seen under top 10, since you begin to bully Vietnam. in Japan and Korea, we are at the second place among international students.

that tells us everything.

japan is a country of the future, while china of the past.

strengthening-vietnam-japan-peoples-friendship-409297-huu-nghi.jpg

LOL.

https://thenanfang.com/china-top-destination-japanese-exchange-students/

"November 6, 2015 9:09am (updated)

For the first time ever, more Japanese foreign exchange students are choosing to study in China as opposed to the United States. So far this year, 20,000 Japanese students came to study in China, an 18 percent increase over last year, while only 19,568 went to the US, a decrease of two percent from last year.

The numbers of Japanese students travelling to the USA for their education has plummeted in recent years. At its peak in 2004, some 42,000 Japanese students studied in the United States, making up over half of all Japanese exchange students. The numbers have steadily dropped since then. By 2011, there were just over 20,000 Japanese exchange students going to the USA, comprising only 35 percent of all overseas Japanese students."

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On the other hand, your country will never be a major destination for Japanese students.

The advantage of soft power lies on our side.

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China makes requirements on improving China-Japan ties

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Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (R) meets with Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida in Beijing, capital of China, April 30, 2016. (Xinhua/Yao Dawei)


China on Saturday made requirements on improving bilateral relations and urged Japan to take concrete actions, during Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida's first official visit amid discord of the two countries.

China-Japan relations went through twists and turns in recent years. Bilateral relations are improving with a fragile foundation. The two countries should keep a grip on the right direction of bilateral relations with a due sense of responsibility, said Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.

Li met with Kishida in downtown Beijing on Saturday afternoon, after Kishida's talks with Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his meeting with State Councilor Yang Jiechi respectively.

Li said China is willing, in the spirit of taking the history as a mirror and looking into the future, to make joint efforts with Japan to strengthen political mutual trust and promote bilateral relations back to the track of normal development.

He stressed that no ambiguity or vacillation is allowed when it comes to the matters of principle concerning the political foundation for the normalization of China-Japan relations.

The Japanese side should stick to the path of peaceful development, and match deeds with its words that China's peaceful development is an opportunity, Li said.

He urged Japan to really pursue a positive China policy, adhere to the four political documents between the two countries, and appropriately handle the sensitive elements having fundamental impacts on bilateral relations.

The four documents refer to the China-Japan Joint Statement inked in 1972, the China-Japan Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1978, the China-Japan Joint Declaration of 1998, and the joint statement on advancing strategic and mutually-beneficial relations in a comprehensive way signed in 2008.

Premier Li said Japan should create a favorable atmosphere for the gradual resumption of bilateral dialogue and cooperation mechanism and the trilateral summit among China, Japan and the Republic of Korea (ROK), and help improve the sentiment of people of each other and enhance people-to-people exchanges.

China, Japan and the ROK restarted the trilateral leaders' meeting in last November, ending a period of diplomatic deadlock due to heightened regional tensions. The three countries take turns to host the meeting and this year the chair goes to Japan.

Li also called on the two countries to strengthen cooperation in all areas to benefit the two peoples.

Kishida said the Japanese side, in the spirit of the four political documents, is willing to adhere to the consensus with China that the two countries are each other's cooperative partner rather than threats.

He said Japan is willing to pay mutual respect, strengthen mutual trust, control disputes, and advance the bilateral relations initiated by elder leaders of the two countries and build a Japan-China relations facing toward the future.

Kishida spoke highly of China's economic structural reform and voiced willingness for further comprehensive cooperation with China.

During the talks with Kishida on Saturday morning, Foreign Minister Wang Yi made a four-point requirement on improving China-Japan ties.

Firstly, in politics, Japan should stick fast to the four political documents between the two countries, face up to and reflect upon history and follow the one-China policy to the letter, Wang said.

No ambiguity or vacillation is allowed when it comes to this important political foundation of bilateral ties, he stressed.

Secondly, in terms of its outlook on China, Japan should translate into concrete actions its consensus with China that the two countries are cooperative partners rather than a threat to each other, according to Wang.

Japan should take a more positive and healthy attitude to the growth of China and stop spreading or echoing "China threat" or "China economic recession" theories, said Wang.

Thirdly, in terms of economic exchanges, the Japanese side should establish the concept of win-win cooperation, discard the outdated idea that one side cannot do without the other side, or one side depends more on the other side.

Instead, Japan should enhance equal-footed and pragmatic cooperation with China based on mutual benefit, Wang said.

Fourthly, in terms of regional and international affairs, the two sides should respect each other's legitimate interests and concerns, and communicate and coordinate with each other in a timely fashion, said the minister.

Japan should cast aside the confrontation mentality and work with China to maintain peace, stability and prosperity in the region, added Wang during the talks.

There is still a lack of trust between the two sides although China-Japan relations have shown signs of improvement, Wang said, stressing the root cause for twists and turns in bilateral ties is Japan's outlook on history and China.

Kishida's visit to China is of positive significance, Wang said, calling on the Japanese side to demonstrate sincerity, square its words with deeds and put bilateral relations back on the track of sound development with concrete actions.

Next year marks the 45th anniversary of the normalization of China-Japan diplomatic ties; and the year after next, the 40th anniversary of the signing of China-Japan Peace and Friendship Treaty. Wang said these are important opportunities for the improvement of China-Japan relations.

Kishida highlighted that China's development means opportunities for Japan, saying the Japanese side commends China for its positive role and contribution in many international and regional affairs.

As the world's third- and second-largest economies, Japan and China shoulder more responsibilities for the development and prosperity of Asia and beyond, Kishida said.

The Japanese side would like to reaffirm that China and Japan are partners rather than threats to each other, he said, noting Japan is willing to follow the four political documents and the four-point principled agreement between the two countries.

On the basis of reflecting upon history and pursuing peaceful development, Japan stands ready to join the Chinese side in building mutual understanding and trust, expanding exchanges and cooperation across the board, said Kishida.

He expressed willingness to work with China in properly managing differences and crises, and broadening the positive dimension of bilateral relations to build a Japan-China relationship in the new era.

Kishida also thanked China for its sympathy with and assistance to Kumamoto Prefecture, which was hit by earthquakes in mid-April.

Kishida is paying an official visit to China from Friday to Sunday, the first since he took office over three years ago, and the first by a Japanese foreign minister in four and a half years.
 
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