China is now growing slower than the US

[jhungary]

Genius, you need to stay focused okay. I used the word manucturing industry and you said you were talking about manufacturing sector. So i asked you what is the different between manufcaturing industry and manufacturing sector. Until now you are not answering me.

Read your statement above, you add 'INDUSTRIAL SECTOR'? Wtf is industrial sector, there are 3 types of industry, primary, secondary and tertiary. You know the difference right. How the **** do you *** industrial sector and energy sector and mining sector when they are all INDUSTRIES dumbfxk.

And btw, private consumption, fixed asset investment by businesses are botn higher than exports. The right is actually to use net exports. If you calculate it that way, among the 4 components of the gdp, it is the lowest.

You still don't get it, don't you?

You can use whatever you want, I am using the term "Manufacturing Sector" as per US BLS definition. You can think this is the same or different than "Manufacturing Industries" or whatever the hell you said, I don't care, I never use the term "Manufacturing Industries" or whatever, so if you want to know why it match or not match your "expectation" go back to the US BLS and re-read their definition. And if you still think, oh that's wrong, then send them a e-mail with your ludicrous idea with that dictionary.com screen cap and tell them they use the definition wrong, I don't care what you do in your free time.

And industrial sector is from the reference here, again, you can call it whatever the hell you want, I don't care. You can write to tradeeconomic folk about "Hey you use the wrong term" or whatever.

And finally, yea, and if I count my wife's volvo weight without all doors and bonnet, they can be just as light as a Suburu BRZ. That's not how you compare thing bruh.

 

[Han Patriot]

Industry is just a byproduct of economy. An industry can only exist when there's a profit. China can produce such amounts of products because it's exporting them with profit.

If a day comes and China is sanctioned or even worse, in case of a war, blockaded, its profits will cease and as a result industry will shut down.

That's why economic measures are in my opinion more important than raw industrial capabilities.

You are underestimating the power of Chinese consumption, it is low per capita but it is high overall. Profits don't just come from exporting, it also comes from domestic demand. People have the wrong stereotype and outdated understanding of China.

You still don't get it, don't you?

You can use whatever you want, I am using the term "Manufacturing Sector" as per US BLS definition. You can think this is the same or different than "Manufacturing Industries" or whatever the hell you said, I don't care, I never use the term "Manufacturing Industries" or whatever, so if you want to know why it match or not match your "expectation" go back to the US BLS and re-read their definition. And if you still think, oh that's wrong, then send them a e-mail with your ludicrous idea with that dictionary.com screen cap and tell them they use the definition wrong, I don't care what you do in your free time.

And industrial sector is from the reference here, again, you can call it whatever the hell you want, I don't care. You can write to tradeeconomic folk about "Hey you use the wrong term" or whatever.

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And finally, yea, and if I count my wife's volvo weight without all doors and bonnet, they can be just as light as a Suburu BRZ. That's not how you compare thing bruh.

I think you are the one not getting it and i caught you lying multiple times and stating crap multiple times and when i highlight them in a coherent manner for you to answer. You don't. You just keep on posting graphs.

You are still not answering my 4 simple questions on your statements. Added one more after you spouted nonsense again. I told you i specialise in dissecting idiots.

Again the questions below based on your statements.

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries?

 

[Beny Karachun]

You are underestimating the power of Chinese consumption, it is low per capita but it is high overall. Profits don't just come from exporting, it also comes from domestic demand. People have the wrong stereotype and outdated understanding of China.

I understand, but your profits mostly come from exports and thus your factories mostly rely on export and not internal consumption.

China's development is rooted in exports.

 

[jhungary]

I think you are the one not getting it and i caught you lying multiple times and stating crap multiple times and when i highlight them in a coherent manner for you to answer. You don't. You just keep on posting graphs.

You are still not answering my 4 simple questions on your statements. Added one more after you spouted nonsense again. I told you i specialise in dissecting idiots.

Again the questions below based on your statements.

You use whatever word you use and being stupid is not the same as I lie.

Again, I use the term as per US BLS definition. You can either accuse the way I use it to their definition was wrong. Or their definition was wrong.

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different

For the nth time, I never use the term "manufacturing industry" you use that term, I never said it was the same or differnet, show me where did I say this was different?

If you want me to comment, then yes, they should be different.

Manufacturing SECTOR is the entire sector of Manufacturing business. Ie turn resources into goods.

Manufacturing INDUSTRIES is the industry (ie thru machinery and factories) to make item. As in in an industrial scale

Unless you claim ALL Manufacturing are in an industrial scare, that's different, but that's my opinion.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

Again, in this graph

If you want to dispute why or how that did not come out 48 (or 44%) you need to be more specific

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

You think 20.68% of China GDP is not a main component, that's your problem.

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries?

That's what YOUR government said

Announcement of the National Bureau of statistics on the Final Verification of GDP in 2019

Ask them why they count "industry" "Manufacturing" and "Construction" seperately

 

[kankan326]

Industry is just a byproduct of economy. An industry can only exist when there's a profit. China can produce such amounts of products because it's exporting them with profit.

If a day comes and China is sanctioned or even worse, in case of a war, blockaded, its profits will cease and as a result industry will shut down.

That's why economic measures are in my opinion more important than raw industrial capabilities.

Last year US imported 537 billion dollars goods, only 3% of China's GDP. Most goods are low end or produced for US brands(Apple phones for example). Compared with US exports to China, China didn't make much profit from export to US. US already banned high end goods imports from China. Stopping export to US does have negative impact on China's economy. But not so much as you think.

 

[Han Patriot]

You use whatever word you use and being stupid is not the same as I lie.

Again, I use the term as per US BLS definition. You can either accuse the way I use it to their definition was wrong. Or their definition was wrong.


For the nth time, I never use the term "manufacturing industry" you use that term, I never said it was the same or differnet, show me where did I say this was different?

If you want me to comment, then yes, they should be different.

Manufacturing SECTOR is the entire sector of Manufacturing business. Ie turn resources into goods.

Manufacturing INDUSTRIES is the industry (ie thru machinery and factories) to make item. As in in an industrial scale

Unless you claim ALL Manufacturing are in an industrial scare, that's different, but that's my opinion.

Hhaahah, man did your mum drop you as a baby. What are you even blurting out. All GDP activities are industries, tourism is an industry for the same reason. Primary, secondary tertiary, you didn't learn this in economics? All manufacturing is at a certain scale. So define to me how big is 'industrial scale'? It is more of a linguistic habit than economics technical term. Are you stupid enough to think industry is only turning raw materials into goods?

The question here is what are the differences between manufacturing sector and manufacturing industry. You said it is at an industrial scale? So manufacturing sector don't turn out goods at an industrial scale? Manufacturing industries don't convert raw materials into goods? Gosh, your stupidity amazes me. Are you a humanities major by any chance?

Again, in this graph

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If you want to dispute why or how that did not come out 48 (or 44%) you need to be more specific


You think 20.68% of China GDP is not a main component, that's your problem.

You don't count exports in a gdp calculation, you count 'net exports' dmbfxk. If you do that, the component become the least contributor. If you only calculate exports, the pie becomes bigger than 100% understand dmbfxk. And even if you do that it is ranked 3rd out of 4th...so how the fck can it be the main component?

That's what YOUR government said

Announcement of the National Bureau of statistics on the Final Verification of GDP in 2019

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Ask them why they count "industry" "Manufacturing" and "Construction" seperately

Read what my government said again!
Hey stupid, there are 3 major type of industry primary, secondary and tertiary. Even agriculture is an industry aka primary industry. Do I fcking need to educate you on such economic basics? Ffs, read some basic economica before talking like an idiot. These are very very very basic economic concepts.

Do you know why i asked these questions?

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries.

It is to highlight your idiocy, understand? I already know the answer. This is how we dissect an idiot like YOU.

 

[jhungary]

Hhaahah, man did your mum drop you as a baby. What are you even blurting out. All GDP activities are industries, tourism is an industry for the same reason. Primary, secondary tertiary, you didn't learn this in economics? All manufacturing is at a certain scale. So define to me how big is 'industrial scale'? It is more of a linguistic habit than economics technical term. Are you stupid enough to think industry is only turning raw materials into goods?

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What kind of idiot are you?

I already said I used the term "Manufacturing sector" as per US Government definition. You keep giving me the dictionary of a term I DID NOT USE does not mean anything at all, do you really understand that?

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT KEEP BRINGING UP THE TERM MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. Not me, you keep coming up on the same dictionary definition is pointless.

This is the same when company uses the term "Fiscal" and then you post a dictionary meaning of fiscal and said this is only describe "Government Policy"

Again, company uses the term "Fiscal" you know, whether or not they use it along the line with dictionary.com is their pleasure

Take-Two Interactive's Earnings Call Reveals Strong Fiscal Year and Exciting Future Plans｜Game8

2023.05.18 Take-Two Interactive's Earnings Conference call showcased progress from their current pipeline. Read about the following years' plans, upcoming projects, and game-related collaborations.

game8.co

Take-Two Interactive unveiled the Q4 and Fiscal Year 2023 Financial Results, showcasing their impressive progress and providing a glimpse into their exciting plans for the future.

The funny thing is, you keep saying I am playing with word.

The question here is what are the differences between manufacturing sector and manufacturing industry. You said it is at an industrial scale? So manufacturing sector don't turn out goods at an industrial scale? Manufacturing industries don't convert raw materials into goods? Gosh, your stupidity amazes me. Are you a humanities major by any chance?

Industrial Scale means mass production using factory, if you are too dumb to understand the term "Industrial Scale" I can't help you

And not all manufacturing process have to be in a factory or at an industrial scale, again, if you want to consider a tailor making clothes in their home is an "Industry" then that's your problem

You don't count exports in a gdp calculation, you count 'net exports' dmbfxk. If you do that, the component become the least contributor. If you only calculate exports, the pie becomes bigger than 100% understand dmbfxk. And even if you do that it is ranked 3rd out of 4th...so how the fck can it be the main component?

Nobody count "Export" as is at all in GDP, as that is based on the figure and value of the industrial production. Export is ALWAYS an added on value on something, but the production was already done when said item being produced, you count it then not when it eventually export to some other country.

On the other hand, I NEVER USE THE TERM EXPORT. You are the Caracheo that start asking how much export volumn in the GDP. By asking this

It doesn't show how much is tied to exports mate. How do you get 48% of the economy is tied to this sector?

You can normally dissect an idiot just by asking a few questions.

Before that, the term "EXPORT": were never even mentioned by me.

Read what my government said again!
Hey stupid, there are 3 major type of industry primary, secondary and tertiary. Even agriculture is an industry aka primary industry. Do I fcking need to educate you on such economic basics? Ffs, read some basic economica before talking like an idiot. These are very very very basic economic concepts.

Dumbass, it mention the 3 as secondary industry, you must be fricking blind. All of them are a reply to your question

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries?

Again, read the highlighted portion. The Chinese government, not me, is the one that count mining and energy sector as secondary industry. What kind of dumb shit talk about agriculture or primary industry?

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Do you know why i asked these questions?

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries.

It is to highlight your idiocy, understand? I already know the answer. This is how we dissect an idiot like YOU.

Again, half the question I had answered and half the question I never even raise, again, if you are too dumb and stupid to understand this, I can't help you.

And frankly, I am not intetrested in this circle jerk anymore.

 

[Han Patriot]

What kind of idiot are you?

I already said I used the term "Manufacturing sector" as per US Government definition. You keep giving me the dictionary of a term I DID NOT USE does not mean anything at all, do you really understand that?

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT KEEP BRINGING UP THE TERM MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. Not me, you keep coming up on the same dictionary definition is pointless.

This is the same when company uses the term "Fiscal" and then you post a dictionary meaning of fiscal and said this is only describe "Government Policy"

Again, company uses the term "Fiscal" you know, whether or not they use it along the line with dictionary.com is their pleasure

Take-Two Interactive's Earnings Call Reveals Strong Fiscal Year and Exciting Future Plans｜Game8

2023.05.18 Take-Two Interactive's Earnings Conference call showcased progress from their current pipeline. Read about the following years' plans, upcoming projects, and game-related collaborations.

game8.co

The funny thing is, you keep saying I am playing with word.

Hey numb numb, for the nth fcking time you said my term was wrong so fcking prove it is wrong. I DID NOT ASK FOR A DEFINITION of manufacturing sector I asked you wtf was different between manufacturing sector and manufacturing industry since you said it was different. There is nothing wrong with US government definition of manufacturing. The loose screw is YOU. You don't seem to comprehend things easily. You want to start the fiscal debate again Mr LNG since you are also the genius who believes LNG is delivered in pipelines. Haahahahahaahahahn.

Industrial Scale means mass production using factory, if you are too dumb to understand the term "Industrial Scale" I can't help you

And not all manufacturing process have to be in a factory or at an industrial scale, again, if you want to consider a tailor making clothes in their home is an "Industry" then that's your problem

You are confused again, so what scale constitutes industrial scale? How big is big to become industrial scale? So. Are you saying Manufacturing sector does not manufacture to scale? You got to understand what you say idiot. We are not talking about manufacturing in factories alone, we are talking about manufacturing. It could be two Africans weaving basket all I care, if it is accounted for in an economy, it is manufacturing.

Nobody count "Export" as is at all in GDP, as that is based on the figure and value of the industrial production. Export is ALWAYS an added on value on something, but the production was already done when said item being produced, you count it then not when it eventually export to some other country.

On the other hand, I NEVER USE THE TERM EXPORT. You are the Caracheo that start asking how much export volumn in the GDP. By asking this

You just claimed exports were a main component and noe you say you didnt claim. Wtf is wrong with your head, are you coherent? Wtf are you even talking nobody counts exports in GDP, we fcking count net exports in GDP idiot.

Before that, the term "EXPORT": were never even mentioned by me.




Dumbass, it mention the 3 as secondary industry, you must be fricking blind. All of them are a reply to your question



Again, read the highlighted portion. The Chinese government, not me, is the one that count mining and energy sector as secondary industry. What kind of dumb shit talk about agriculture or primary industry?



Again, half the question I had answered and half the question I never even raise, again, if you are too dumb and stupid to understand this, I can't help you.

And frankly, I am not intetrested in this circle jerk anymore.

You have no fundamental understanding of economics, primary, secondary and tertiary industries are all basic terms. No matter which government uses it. When you idiotically use a Chinese statistic source using the same shit I just said to prove me wrong, i knew you were an idiot. FFs readdddddddd

How the fck do you add industry with energy and construction when all of them are industries idiot. Farming is an industry, tourism is an industry understand numb numb. It is like you are saying add the price of 1 fruit to price of 2 apples and price 3 oranges. Wtf! Which fruit are you talking about!

Again these are the discrepancies i found in your statement. So answer them to prove it.

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries

Below is the collection of idiocy you spewed out. Look at it!

 

[jhungary]

Hey numb numb, for the nth fcking time you said my term was wrong so fcking prove it is wrong. I DID NOT ASK FOR A DEFINITION of manufacturing sector I asked you wtf was different between manufacturing sector and manufacturing industry since you said it was different. There is nothing wrong with US government definition of manufacturing. The loose screw is YOU. You don't seem to comprehend things easily. You want to start the fiscal debate again Mr LNG since you are also the genius who believes LNG is delivered in pipelines. Haahahahahaahahahn



You are confused again, so what scale constitutes industrial scale? How big is big to become industrial scale? So. Are you saying Manufacturing sector does not manufacture to scale? You got to understand what you say idiot. We are not talking about manufacturing in factories alone, we are talking about manufacturing. It could be two Africans weaving basket all I care, if it is accounted for in an economy, it is manufacturing.



You just claimed exports were a main component and noe you say you didnt claim. Wtf is wrong with your head, are you coherent? Wtf are you even talking nobody counts exports in GDP, we fcking count net exports in GDP idiot.



You have no fundamental understanding of economics, primary, secondary and tertiary industries are all basic terms. No matter which government uses it. When you idiotically use a Chinese statistic source using the same shit I just said to prove me wrong, i knew you were an idiot. FFs readdddddddd

How the fck do you add industry with energy and construction when all of them are industries idiot. Farming is an industry, tourism is an industry understand numb numb. It is like you are saying add the price of 1 fruit to price of 2 apples and price 3 oranges. Wtf! Which fruit are you talking about!

Again these are the discrepancies i found in your statement. So answer them to prove it.

1) difference between manucturing sector and industry since you claimed they were different.

2) how is manufacturing 48% of Chinese gdp.

3) how are exports a MAIN component of the GDP?

4) how do you add induatrial sector with mining and energy sector when they are all Industries

Below is the collection of idiocy you spewed out. Look at it!
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Whatever dude, you keep talking in a circle, so I am gonna step out, I said all that I have to say and frankly I have no time for this circle jerk. Points here is simple. Industrial sector alone in China take up 33.2% of China GDP, and you want to argue consumerism (either domestic or foreign) are not a main factor of GDP growth, I mean sure, feel free to think it wasn't and keep talking about words that I did not use and asking me why you use such term you use. Keep entertaining yourself if you want. I am out.

 

[Han Patriot]

Whatever dude, you keep talking in a circle, so I am gonna step out, I said all that I have to say and frankly I have no time for this circle jerk. Points here is simple. Industrial sector alone in China take up 33.2% of China GDP, and you want to argue consumerism (either domestic or foreign) are not a main factor of GDP growth, I mean sure, feel free to think it wasn't and keep talking about words that I did not use and asking me why you use such term you use. Keep entertaining yourself if you want. I am out.

Ffs there is no such thing as industrial sector alone, it is either primary, secondary or tertiary. You can also choose to divide it into the sub-industries like agriculture, manufacturing, mining or services. How thick is your skull to understand such simple economic concepts.

Even ignoring all these terms, how the fck did you get 48% for manufacturing? I am not talking in circles as much as you are stoopid. Lol.

Tell me how many times have I caught you being stupid?

 

[jhungary]

Ffs there is no such thing as industrial sector alone, it is either primary, secondary or tertiary. You can also choose to divide it into the sub-industries like agriculture, manufacturing, mining or services. How thick is your skull to understand such simple economic concepts.

Even ignoring all these terms, how the fck did you get 48% for manufacturing? I am not talking in circles as much as you are stoopid. Lol.

Tell me how many times have I caught you being stupid?

Yes, you are a genius of Economy, in fact, I am going to petition my old school to give you a PhD in Economic, you simply just need to show up[ to their test question and then write something that are completely irreverent and was not even mentioned in the test and then go barge in to the Head of Department and keep insulting him and asking a bunch of irreverent question, and viola, they will give you a PhD.

Again, I am not going to come back here to go round and round and round and round with you. I have said everything and answered every question you have asked that is revelent to the topic. and if you can't see it or you reject them, that's your problem.

 

[Han Patriot]

Yes, you are a genius of Economy, in fact, I am going to petition my old school to give you a PhD in Economic, you simply just need to show up[ to their test question and then write something that are completely irreverent and was not even mentioned in the test and then go barge in to the Head of Department and keep insulting him and asking a bunch of irreverent question, and viola, they will give you a PhD.

Again, I am not going to come back here to go round and round and round and round with you. I have said everything and answered every question you have asked that is revelent to the topic. and if you can't see it or you reject them, that's your problem.

Yes 48% of Chinese GDP is manufacturing. Haahahahahahaah.
One word IDIOT.

 

[jhungary]

And when people talking about manufacturing sector, someone ask about export LOLOLOLOLOL::::::::::: Is that how China count their GDP now? Double dipping the manufacturing sector with Export figure. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLZZZZ

What do we call these people again??

 

[Han Patriot]

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And when people talking about manufacturing sector, someone ask about export LOLOLOLOLOL::::::::::: Is that how China count their GDP now? Double dipping the manufacturing sec

tor with Export figure. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLZZZZ

What do we call these people again??

Huh? I am asking you how much of the GDP tied to exports, what has it got to do with double dipping? Manufacturing can be manufacturing for domestic consumption or exports. Hellllooooooooo are you awake? MR 48%..LOLOLOL.

And fyi, exports and manufacturing are not even under the same GDP calculation approach.

Manufacturing is under the production approach while Net exports (precise) is under the expenditure approach. One method measures how much goods and services are produced, another measures how much is spent in the GDP. Two different things, how do you even get double dipping when they aren't even calculated the same way? Ffs, did you really study economics? These are really basic stuff mate. Are you that ignorant?

 

[jhungary]

LOL, see how he try to defend himself here lolololol

Caraecho here may as well ask who win American Idol in 2023, nobody is talking about export here, but hey, this is certainly entertain as hell looking at him trying to dig a hole and keep digging it with every statement he made.