CHINA IS BEING COMPARED TO PRE-WWI IMPERIAL GERMANY

[JayAtl]

Ok trolls aside what are your views on the chinese foreign policy about India? Whats your take on it and how you expect it to be taken?

With utmost suspicion. trust but verify at every stage and the article speaks to why. What this tawdry boycott tells us about China and its friends is that they think there's nothing they can't buy and bully their way out of: morality; international laws and treaties; universal acceptance (in theory, anyway) of the importance of human rights; the need in the age of global warming to work together with the rest of the world.

Take as recent as the staple issue, or china protesting our prime minister from visiting AP, or it's ongoing build up near the border. A sovereign countries Prime minister that he should not visit one of his own states! ( that takes either balls or extreme arrogance or stupidity) These kind of actions should be alarming and have red flags showing up for the India's. China's role in other countries is also a great indicator of their design. I have no problem with them being for their interest BUT also look at the countries that it has in-depth trade investments and relationships with. They don't just arm twist, which the US does too, but are very aggressive and come up with alarming statements tantamount to threats- even up to sanctions .

All of China’s neighbors want China to know, as the sign says: “Don’t even think about parking here.” Don’t even think about using your growing economic and military clout to just impose your claims in border disputes and over oil-rich islands in the South China Sea. Because, if you do, all of China’s neighbors — including India — will be doomed to become America’s new best friends.

That’s why each one of China’s neighbors is eager to have a picture of their president standing with Clinton or Obama — with the unspoken caption that reads: “Honestly, China, we don’t want to throttle you. We don’t want an Asian Cold War. We just want to trade and be on good terms. But, please, stay between the white lines. Don’t even think about parking in my space because, if you do, I have this friend from Washington, and he’s really big. ... And he’s got his own tow truck.”

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

With utmost suspicion.

First time you've given decent advice.

India can pump even more of their limited funds into military spending, for a war that will never come, funds which would otherwise have been used to compete economically with Chinese industry or to build more infrastructure. In ten years the gap will widen massively.

Thanks in advance.

 

[JayAtl]

First time you've given decent advice.

India can pump even more of their limited funds into military spending, for a war that will never come, funds which would otherwise have been used to compete economically with Chinese industry or to build more infrastructure. In ten years the gap will widen massively.

Thanks in advance.

aren't you also doing that per your military build up? did you not attack us militarily? you sit at 1/3 of the US gdp and talk big and India sits at 1/3 of your GDP but expect us to be meek and insult our growth and standing every opportunity you get on these forums...

we are growing at the same rate as you, gap won't be bigger it will probably close to where we are still at worst 1/3 of your GDP. That's not shabby by any means...

 

[Brotherhood]

aren't you also doing that per your military build up? did you not attack us militarily? you sit at 1/3 of the US gdp and talk big and we sit at 1/3 of your GDP but expect us to be meek and insult our growth and standing everyday opportunity you get on these forums...

Yeah, yeah, but China did not top the world hunger chart though, if India can't even manage to prvide enough food to feed her poor,
spending less than some poor african countries in public health care and you expect people not laughing at you spending billions in arms?

 

[TruthSeeker]

China is not a WWI German look alike, it is a WWII German look alike. The Chinese system most resembles National Socialism. If you understand the national socialist system of Germany in the 1930's and early 1940's you will see that the PRC Chinese are very similar. The main difference is that the Chinese are not, yet, militarily expansionist, except into areas they believe are "traditional" Chinese areas, such as Tibet. But even this Chinese mindset is similar to the National Socialist foreign policy in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's. Look out India! You may be holding onto the next Sudetenland!

 

[siegecrossbow]

Imperial Germany or Nazi Germany. Make up your effing mind!

 

[JayAtl]

Yeah, yeah, but China did not top the world hunger chart though, if India can't even manage to prvide enough food to feed her poor,
spending less than some poor african countries in public health care and you expect people not laughing at you spending billions in arms?

every time someone talks about anything most all you Chinese start with this you don't feed your people- total different direction . so here it goes champ..

Link 30 Million starving in china-->http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/1673.html

Since you guys block all such news and stats, its hard to know where it is today, but we can bet that not all 30 million are now fed .

Starving kids in China growing tired of US leftovers

( link --->) : Gadling | travel blog | news, stories, deals, and tips.

Even your recent history speaks of how well you feed your people- Between 17 and 30 million Chinese citizens died of starvation from 1959 to 1961, virtually all in China’s farming regions. As many as half of the victims may have been children under ten.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Imperial Germany or Nazi Germany. Make up your effing mind!

I'm not at all confused. The PRC most resembles Nazi Germany of all previous models of national governments since the 19th century.

 

[prototype]

First time you've given decent advice.

India can pump even more of their limited funds into military spending, for a war that will never come, funds which would otherwise have been used to compete economically with Chinese industry or to build more infrastructure. In ten years the gap will widen massively.

Thanks in advance.

if i am not wrong,u have a budget that is more than 2 times bigger than us,and if some secrets and myths r to b believed it is almost 5 times bigger than us,preparing for a battle against the entire world(out there to malign China)that will never come.

Now if I am not wrong a citizen from a nation is advising here about Indian military spending which already had a war with India in recent times,now a war means we r best of the friends,ya.

Every nation spends on its military and feel threatened by someone,there is nothing here to mock.

about the great divide,i can see ur growth rate falling and our rising(frankly i dont care much about this growth rates),so ur feelings about India falling even more behind and our suicidal military investment is just like a rat's posterior for us

 

[chinapakistan]

every time someone talks about anything most all you Chinese start with this you don't feed your people- total different direction . so here it goes champ..

Link 30 Million starving in china-->Association for Asia Research- 30 million people are starving in China

Since you guys block all such news and stats, its hard to know where it is today, but we can bet that not all 30 million are now fed .

Starving kids in China growing tired of US leftovers

( link --->) : Gadling | travel blog | news, stories, deals, and tips.

Even your recent history speaks of how well you feed your people- Between 17 and 30 million Chinese citizens died of starvation from 1959 to 1961, virtually all in China’s farming regions. As many as half of the victims may have been children under ten.

He never said china didnt or dont have hugers, his point is we are not as serious as the biggest demontric country. Here you go.
India tops world hunger chart - The Times of India
Oh, by the way, every country in this planet has his hungers, no exception.

 

[Brotherhood]

every time someone talks about anything most all you Chinese start with this you don't feed your people- total different direction . so here it goes champ..

Link 30 Million starving in china-->Association for Asia Research- 30 million people are starving in China

Since you guys block all such news and stats, its hard to know where it is today, but we can bet that not all 30 million are now fed .

Starving kids in China growing tired of US leftovers

( link --->) : Gadling | travel blog | news, stories, deals, and tips.

Even your recent history speaks of how well you feed your people- Between 17 and 30 million Chinese citizens died of starvation from 1959 to 1961, virtually all in China’s farming regions. As many as half of the victims may have been children under ten.

Wow, you must be desperate eh? posting some so-called source from a well known anti-China hate site "Epoch Times", the other one from a nobody "Blog" ?
Let me put some money in your pocket, don't forget to thank me

Hunger Proliferates In A Democracy; India Tops The Chart
By Devinder Sharma20 September, 2010
Ground Reality

This is a chart that should put every Indian into shame. Not only an Indian, but also those who swear in the name of democracy. How can people's representatives remain immune to the growing scourge of hunger? Shouldn't this provoke you to ask the basic: why should hunger exist in a democracy?

In India, for instance, the map shows 238 million people living in hunger. This is certainly incorrect. A new government estimate points to 37.2 per cent of the population living in poverty, which means the hunger tally in India is officially at 450 million. Even this is an understatement. The poverty line is kept so stringent in India (at Rs 17 per person per day) that in the same amount you cannot even think of feeding a pet dog. I wonder how can the poor manage two-square meals a day under this classification.Hunger Proliferates In A Democracy; India Tops The Chart By Devinder Sharma

2 million babies die yearly cos the lack of public health care and keep spending billions in weapons 171 out of 175......countries
India ranks 171 out of 175 in public health spending, says WHO study - The Times of India

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

2 million babies die yearly cos the lack of public health care and keep spending billions in weapons 171 out of 175......countries
India ranks 171 out of 175 in public health spending, says WHO study - The Times of India

I don't know how he has the face to talk about hungry children in China, when 2 million children die of starvation EVERY YEAR in India.

Such a hypocrite. 没有脸.

 

[Merilion]

we are growing at the same rate as you, gap won't be bigger it will probably close to where we are still at worst 1/3 of your GDP. That's not shabby by any means...

primary school math:
A=30, B=10
gap: 30-10=20
10% growth rate for both A and B
30x1.1=33
10x1.1=11
gap: 33-11=22

 

[Speeder 2]

Wilhelmine China?
By Sebastian Bruck

Of course. I think China today is strikingly similar to Wilhelmine Germany. Before anyone jumps out right here to attack me, I would say hold on, I meant the similarities of the two are limited only in 4 areas :

(1) both having the biggest land mass with the biggest ethnic populations in their geographic region;

(2)both being the economic engines of in their geographic region/world.

(3) Both being increasingly authoritarian;

(4) Both having the highest average IQ in their geographic region ( and in the world at large to put it lossely).

Nevertheless the main theme here, China vs Wilhelmine Germany, again proves my point established not long ago in the thread "How China builds her infrastructure? ", namely " in almost entire history so far, it's China (East Asia) vs Germanic Europe" allover again.


I reply to the OP because it's a typical copy of so called "Western Media" (aka Jew Media) propaganda at work. Let me illuatrate how it works:

In recent years, a number of analysts have drawn attention to supposed similarities between the rise of modern China and the rise of Wilhelmine Germany a century ago. Citing two prominent examples, American legal scholar Richard Posner... Newsweek's Fareed Zakaria...

Richard Posner ( though I agree with many ofhis views in other professional fields over the years) -- not fooled by his German surname, I am almost certain that he is actually a German Ashkenazi Jew by ancestry.

Fareed Zakaria -- one of the low-level intellectual functionaries, just like Wolf Blitzer of CNN, who got where he is today almost entirely thanks to his boring yet time-proven capability of precisely parroting what his Ashkenazi Jew Masters in Newsweek have told him to say.

So the author of the OP ("Western Media") actually cited 2 Ashkenazim sources indeed in comparing Wilhelmine Germany to China.

Where is the Jewish propaganda in all these then? They don't stop at where I am in this analysis, but deliberately go further ( see my highlighted parts below in the quotations) trying to sinuate that China would therefore likely be similar to Wilhelmine Germany as well to start a world war. However flase their point is, unfortunatedly it's precisely this inbedded impression that will mislead the general public in the west to turn against China and/or Chinese. So the Jews have achieved their propagnada goal.

Richard Posner has argued that he is “struck by the resemblance between China and Wilhelmine Germany [1871-1918], two aggressively, at times hysterically, nationalistic countries, paranoid about encirclement by potential enemies […] and possessed of economic institutions more advanced than their political institutions."

my comment: they are both nationalistic nations, and well-deserved so.
Each was/is indeed encircled by the statue quo power at a time namely England and the US. So what? China is not expasionist empirically speaking, as SinoSoldier and others noted.

Newsweek's Fareed Zakaria, meanwhile, has written that "like Germany in the late 19th century, China is also growing rapidly but uncertainly into a global system in which it feels it deserves more attention and honor. The Chinese military is a powerful political player, as was the Prussian officer corps. Like Wilhelmine Germany, the Chinese regime is trying to hold onto political power even as it unleashes forces in society that make its control increasingly shaky."

Growing, but why uncertainly into a global system?

I see it very certain, so certain that it's almost predictable that how China is deeply involved into dominant global bodies such as UN Security Council, WTO, World Bank, IMF, and all major global industrial value chains.... Deploying these ambigurous notions and absurd logic is exactly where Ashkenazi Jews excel usually ( growing up among many of them, I know this trait too well). So Zakaria is only a spokeman, an Indian with Ashkenazi talking points indeed.


So Wilhelmine Germany = China = Germany = Nazi Germany= Nazis = bad evil s*umbags = we, the world, must unite againt. ----- this is the whole Jew Media's "battle plan" to fight China from this angle. This OP is only one out of many out there in the so called mainsteam "Western Media" to brainwash readers almost on a daily basis.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

China is not a WWI German look alike, it is a WWII German look alike. The Chinese system most resembles National Socialism. If you understand the national socialist system of Germany in the 1930's and early 1940's you will see that the PRC Chinese are very similar. The main difference is that the Chinese are not, yet, militarily expansionist, except into areas they believe are "traditional" Chinese areas, such as Tibet. But even this Chinese mindset is similar to the National Socialist foreign policy in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's. Look out India! You may be holding onto the next Sudetenland!

Don't mean to be rude.

That suggestion more applies to East-Asians as they are a part of Traditional China

Currently we are not such a significant threat to them



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There are hardly any airfields near Indian border.

Current Chinese Govt seems ok for us,

A democratic China ,that'd be different story.