China invest 6 billion dollars into Iranian oil field , and refinery projec

[casual]

No doubt China reaps rewards for the time being. And at the same time Iran pretty much Guarantees a Chinese veto on any UN Security Council vote that effects their investment. Which means an Israeli or U.S. action against Iran will moist likely be unilateral. And who knows what the trigger will be leading to conflict. Iran’s use of proxies, Nukes, the seizing one to many times of ships outside Iran’s territorial waters, ECT. But sooner or later something will happen.

meh, i don't understand why we need to protect israel so much. especially since israel wont' listen to anything we want them to do.

and if we do go to war with iran, who will pay for it?

 

[ovarel]

meh, i don't understand why we need to protect israel so much. especially since israel wont' listen to anything we want them to do.

and if we do go to war with iran, who will pay for it?

this guy answers your question

Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

 

[CardSharp]

meh, i don't understand why we need to protect israel so much. especially since israel wont' listen to anything we want them to do.

and if we do go to war with iran, who will pay for it?

Israelis have through political lobbying and machinations have made American political leaders accept without much question, that "Israel's interests are America's interests" Something blatantly not true but serves Israel's purpose.

 

[ephone]

If Iran dare to do that, not only US will wiped out its outdated navy and air force, China will stand at U.S. side since Iran's disturbance there also hurts China's core interest.

So Iran can totally forget about that if it still wants some peace there. There is no doubt it is 100% on the loser end and U.S. will not hesitate to destroy Iran if Iran dare to touch the life line. It is not only for U.S, but also for China, Korea, Japan, India and so many countries. Nobody will be on Iran's side.

but i meant the transportation not production..Persian Gulf is a very strategic point for the transportation...of course US can overcome it too but they would gain nothing...i dont think a war is gonna occur despite the taunts of Iran..

 

[casual]

If Iran dare to do that, not only US will wiped out its outdated navy and air force, China will stand at U.S. side since Iran's disturbance there also hurts China's core interest.

So Iran can totally forget about that if it still wants some peace there. There is no doubt it is 100% on the loser end and U.S. will not hesitate to destroy Iran if Iran dare to touch the life line. It is not only for U.S, but also for China, Korea, Japan, India and so many countries. Nobody will be on Iran's side.

ya and the iranian people will welcome the american liberators with open arms right?

no dude, one iraq is enough.

 

[ovarel]

If Iran dare to do that, not only US will wiped out its outdated navy and air force, China will stand at U.S. side since Iran's disturbance there also hurts China's core interest.

So Iran can totally forget about that if it still wants some peace there. There is no doubt it is 100% on the loser end and U.S. will not hesitate to destroy Iran if Iran dare to touch the life line. It is not only for U.S, but also for China, Korea, Japan, India and so many countries. Nobody will be on Iran's side.

thats my point...they would destroy iran but they also would suffer greatly..when iran mess with the oil,int community will not only point fingers to iran but also to the usa.think about the international pressure over the usa...usa will attack iran under extraordinary circumstances..and its not likely.

 

[below_freezing]

If Iran dare to do that, not only US will wiped out its outdated navy and air force, China will stand at U.S. side since Iran's disturbance there also hurts China's core interest.

So Iran can totally forget about that if it still wants some peace there. There is no doubt it is 100% on the loser end and U.S. will not hesitate to destroy Iran if Iran dare to touch the life line. It is not only for U.S, but also for China, Korea, Japan, India and so many countries. Nobody will be on Iran's side.

Yes, but the assumption is there is already an allout war between Iran and the US, so they won't hesitate.

China doesn't care, we have a land line to Iran. So does India. Japan and South Korea care but their opinions don't matter.

 

[ephone]

thats my point...they would destroy iran but they also would suffer greatly..when iran mess with the oil,int community will not only point fingers to iran but also to the usa.think about the international pressure over the usa...usa will attack iran under extraordinary circumstances..and its not likely.

Do not overestimate Iran's ability.

 

[ovarel]

Do not overestimate Iran's ability.

i dont...im talking about its geo-strategical position...they can paralyze the oil transportation and yes usa is able to destroy them..but what would they gain? nothing..israel is always trying to convince them to attack iran..but americans know that it wouldnt be a wise decision...

 

[ephone]

i dont...im talking about its geo-strategical position...they can paralyze the oil transportation and yes usa is able to destroy them..but what would they gain? nothing..israel is always trying to convince them to attack iran..but americans know that it wouldnt be a wise decision...

Iran can NOT paralyze the oil transportation, period. It can cause disturbance. The minute it starts to do that, U.S. war plan already starts to annihilate Iran and it will be over very soon, just like Iraq.

 

[ovarel]

Iran can NOT paralyze the oil transportation, period. It can cause disturbance. The minute it starts to do that, U.S. war plan already starts to annihilate Iran and it will be over very soon, just like Iraq.

and it would lead to a great chaos in ME..there wont be a war,stay calm...

 

[ephone]

and it would lead to a great chaos in ME..there wont be a war,stay calm...

Well, we are quite calm since it has nothing to do with us. I just hope Iran will not be stupid enough to be the next Iraq.

Otherwise, absolutely nobody will come for the rescue.

 

[fallstuff]

If Iran dare to do that, not only US will wiped out its outdated navy and air force, China will stand at U.S. side since Iran's disturbance there also hurts China's core interest.

So Iran can totally forget about that if it still wants some peace there. There is no doubt it is 100% on the loser end and U.S. will not hesitate to destroy Iran if Iran dare to touch the life line. It is not only for U.S, but also for China, Korea, Japan, India and so many countries. Nobody will be on Iran's side.

They will fire missles, on any tanker they can aim at. Iran has hundreads of these missiles. That is all they need to do to create panic. So US will have to nutralize those threats, along with their air defence, air force, navy.

US can't do a half a*s war. When the first shot is fired you better be ready for a complete war, thats not my word, its from Pentagon. Only idiots go to war thinking enemy would not dare to take shot at us and then spend a decade fighting that war.

Iraq war alone was $2.5 trillion, let me ask you, what do you got to show for ?

 

[ephone]

Disruption of oil transport will cost trillions of dollars damage to all other countries altogether. So nobody will stand on Iran's side.

Saudi, Japan and etc will be glad to pay the money to support U.S. war plan in Iran then. Iran's outdated missles, air defense, navy and etc won't do anything. All major targets will be annihilated by U.S. or NATO joint force very quickly, just like what happened in Iraq.

And U.N. will not say No to such action. Iran's traditional partners, Russia and China, will say nothing to support Iran.

It costs billions of dollars, so what? There are countries who will be glad to take out Iran's risk once for all and pay for the expense.

I am saying this from an outsider's point of view. I am not on U.S. side on this issue. However, I clearly see what Iran has done is really provocative. What Iran has taunted U.S. is really insensible. It has nothing to be gained from such idiotic behaviors except make some extremists happy.

They will fire missles, on any tanker they can aim at. Iran has hundreads of these missiles. That is all they need to do to create panic. So US will have to nutralize those threats, along with their air defence, air force, navy.

US can't do a half a*s war. When the first shot is fired you better be ready for a complete war, thats not my word, its from Pentagon. Only idiots go to war thinking enemy would not dare to take shot at us and then spend a decade fighting that war.

Iraq war alone was $2.5 trillion, let me ask you, what do you got to show for ?

 

[Programmer]

To ephone

What has Iran done which you deemed provocative? I'm interested to know.

and also I'm afraid you're underestimating power of asymmetric warfare, and you fail to see the real objective here: The goal is to create a very fast spike in the oil market not to close the waterway forever, you might want to know that even a simple incident in these waterways can cause spike in the oil markets. Haven't you heard what Libya unrest did to the market? (Libya hardly produce %2 of world oil and Europe is their biggest buyer) .

About your analyze I must say according to the current oil production of Russia they are not too unhappy to see a disruption in the oil route, and increase in the oil price, though they might not openly welcome it, but they won't be unhappy to see it happen!

Anyway China is a sovereign and powerful nation and they are welcome to invest in Iran or anywhere else they like!