China intends to sign a new contract on delivery of 120 AL-31FN engines

[SpArK]

China intends to sign a new contract on delivery of 120 AL-31FN engines​

Wednesday October 26, 2011

China intends to sign a new contract on delivery of 120 AL-31FN bypass turbofan engines for J-10 multi-role fighters, VPK reports.

Such information is contained in the 3P French military technical ballot (Polemos, Pater, Panton) of International relations and strategy institute. Possibly this refers to AL-31FN bypass turbofan engines with undermouth propulsion unit gearbox and adjustable jet nozzle. The engine has a maximum thrust of 12 500 kg and intended for J-10 fighters.

As reported by CEO of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaikin, Russia has signed first contract with China on delivery of 122 AL-31FN engines for J-10s in 2009. In case of signing another contract, it will be the second one related to AL-31FN engines for Chinese fighters.

The contract on manufacturing 120 AL-31FN engines will be implemented by Gas-turbine Engineering Research and Production Center Salut. Its ex-CEO Yuri Eliseev said that around 300 AL-31FN engines will be delivered to China in future. According to the French title, in case of signing the new contract, the total number of Russian engines delivered to China will reach 1000.

AL-31F family engines are intended for Su-27 and Su-30МКК fighters, sold to China during a period from 1990 to 2000. The first contract on delivery of 150 engines used for replacement of engines, which have outlived usefulness, has been signed by Rosoboronexport and performed by UMPO (Ufa Engine Industrial Association) and it ends in 2011. However, a contract on delivery of 180 instead of 150 AL-31F engines for replacement of old ones installed on Su-27 fighters of Chinese air forces is implemented by Salut in cooperation with UMPO at the ratio of 100:80.



China intends to sign a new contract on delivery of 120 AL-31FN engines - News - Russian Aviation - RUAVIATION.COM

 

[T90TankGuy]

didn't they but some a month ago or so ? or is this the same order?

 

[Ammyy]

didn't they but some a month ago or so ? or is this the same order?

I think those were ordered for their J11B and now its for J10B

 

[HANI]

100% independent industry

Chines never call them self as of 100% independent industry ....

 

[naumananjum]

China should have bee able to make engines theirself

 

[qwerrty]

the last paragraph clearly says the previous order was for replacement of old su-27s. this news is the same from last month, and there's no deal yet.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

120 AL-31FN Engines = J-10/FC-20 for Pakistan.
Again helped by Russian for Aircraft power supply to Pakistan.

 

[SpArK]

AL-31FN doent have TVC

 

[cloneman]

This kind of news appears on the Russian jounal every two weeks since july,but in reality there is NO new AL-31FN contract signed and there is NO Russian engine contract signed in 2011.I don't know why the Russians want to cook it again and again.And the FWS-10 serie production goes well,the different variants-FWS-10A and FWS-10B were delivered to the J-11 and J-10 under the plan.Also the FWS-13A is in small batch production in this year and the 9500kgf FWS-13B is tested for the certification.Maybe the Russians need to learn that to cellebrate something after it's set down.

 

[SpArK]

This kind of news appears on the Russian jounal every two weeks since july,but in reality there is NO new AL-31FN contract signed and there is NO Russian engine contract signed in 2011.I don't know why the Russians want to cook it again and again.And the FWS-10 serie production goes well,the different variants-FWS-10A and FWS-10B were delivered to the J-11 and J-10 under the plan.Also the FWS-13A is in small batch production in this year and the 9500kgf FWS-13B is tested for the certification.Maybe the Russians need to learn that to cellebrate something after it's set down.

摘要：法国国际关系与战略研究所日前发布报告称，中国将再向俄罗斯购买120台AL-31FN涡扇发动机，用于装备国产的歼-10（北约称F-10）多用途战斗机。
　　据俄通社10月17日报道，法国国际关系与战略研究所日前发布报告称，中国将再向俄罗斯购买120台AL-31FN涡扇发动机，用于装备国产的歼-10（北约称F-10）多用途战斗机。

　　AL-31FN由AL-31F改进而成，是俄罗斯方面根据中方的要求专门针对歼-10的结构特点研制的，最大推力为12.5吨。俄罗斯国防产品出口公司总经理阿纳托利•伊塞金曾透露，俄方于2009年与中国签署了首份提供122台AL-31FN发动机（全部用于装备歼-10）的合同。如果此次的新合同能够顺利签署，那将是俄方获得的第二份AL-31FN发动机订单。制造第二批120台发动机的合同预计将会由莫斯科“礼炮”发动机制造公司负责。


　　“礼炮”公司前任总经理尤里•叶利谢耶夫曾表示，今后为中国歼-10战斗机提供的AL-31FN发动机的总量将有望达到约300台。法国研究机构公布的数据显示，在出口120台发动机的新合同签署后，向中国提供的AL-31F系列发动机的总量将达到1000台之多。俄罗斯在1990-2000年期间出口中国的苏-27和苏-30MKK战斗机均装备的是AL-31F发动机。

　　法国研究机构的报告称，中国为了替换现役“苏”系战斗机上已达到使用寿命的发动机，曾购买了150台AL-31F。该份合同由俄罗斯国防产品出口公司与中方签署，由乌法发动机制造联合体负责执行，全部150台发动机将在今年交付完毕。不过，据俄通社掌握的数据，中方当时订购的发动机不止150台，而是180台，此外，执行工作由“礼炮”公司和乌法发动机制造联合体共同负责，两家企业承担的产量分别为100台和80台。（北斗）

 

[AstroTrain]

China would be a fool to re-engine all the J-11As and J-10s with WS-10s if the cost was much greater than the replacement cost ofthe Russian engines. The 2 mentioned aircraft are approaching 10 year service life. I see no problems in buying russian replacement engines to keep WS-10 production quality at high standards rather than rushing production for the sake of having all jets using domestic engines.

 

[cloneman]

摘要：法国国际关系与战略研究所日前发布报告称，中国将再向俄罗斯购买120台AL-31FN涡扇发动机，用于装备国产的歼-10（北约称F-10）多用途战斗机。
　　据俄通社10月17日报道，法国国际关系与战略研究所日前发布报告称，中国将再向俄罗斯购买120台AL-31FN涡扇发动机，用于装备国产的歼-10（北约称F-10）多用途战斗机。

　　AL-31FN由AL-31F改进而成，是俄罗斯方面根据中方的要求专门针对歼-10的结构特点研制的，最大推力为12.5吨。俄罗斯国防产品出口公司总经理阿纳托利•伊塞金曾透露，俄方于2009年与中国签署了首份提供122台AL-31FN发动机（全部用于装备歼-10）的合同。如果此次的新合同能够顺利签署，那将是俄方获得的第二份AL-31FN发动机订单。制造第二批120台发动机的合同预计将会由莫斯科“礼炮”发动机制造公司负责。


　　“礼炮”公司前任总经理尤里•叶利谢耶夫曾表示，今后为中国歼-10战斗机提供的AL-31FN发动机的总量将有望达到约300台。法国研究机构公布的数据显示，在出口120台发动机的新合同签署后，向中国提供的AL-31F系列发动机的总量将达到1000台之多。俄罗斯在1990-2000年期间出口中国的苏-27和苏-30MKK战斗机均装备的是AL-31F发动机。

　　法国研究机构的报告称，中国为了替换现役“苏”系战斗机上已达到使用寿命的发动机，曾购买了150台AL-31F。该份合同由俄罗斯国防产品出口公司与中方签署，由乌法发动机制造联合体负责执行，全部150台发动机将在今年交付完毕。不过，据俄通社掌握的数据，中方当时订购的发动机不止150台，而是180台，此外，执行工作由“礼炮”公司和乌法发动机制造联合体共同负责，两家企业承担的产量分别为100台和80台。（北斗）

China will buy blah,blah.And anypart in this artical said the contract was signed?Should I translate more?

 

[houshanghai]

AL-31FN doent have TVC

Is it really?

AL31FN TVC version were displayed at beijing aviation exhibition

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only a russian report
i only believe our chinese sources and i dont believe any russian infs
according to chinese forum,This new contract of AL31FN TVC version arent still signed now.
WS10B have much bigger thrust and much longer lifetime than AL31FN, WS10B is up to the production demands and will be put into mass production soon.
btw,also i personally think China will not choose AL31FN TVC version ,bcz China have own WS10 TVC version.maybe china will buy some ordinary AL31FNs due to capacity.

 

[cloneman]

Report from July:
China Signs $500 Million Russian Jet Engine Deal, Vedomosti Says - Bloomberg
China Signs $500 Million Russian Jet Engine Deal, Vedomosti Says
China’s Ministry of Defense signed a contract to buy Russian aircraft engines worth $500 million in early June, Vedomosti reported, citing an unidentified personsource close to Russia’s state arms-selling agency and an unidentified manager of an aviation company.

The contract is for 123 AL-31FN engines by 2013, the first 13 of which will be delivered later this year, the newspaper said.

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Report from August
Weapon and Technology: China Purchases 123 AL-31FN Fighter Jet Engines
China has signed an agreement purchase 123 Russian Lyulka-Saturn AL-31FN turbofan engine to continue the production of the J-10 Fighter Jets.China will take the delivery of first 13 before the end of this year while remaining 110 AL-31FN engines by 2013. Total deal is worth $500 million.


Chinese J-10 fighter jet is powered by the Russian Lyulka-Saturn AL-31FN turbofan engines. This new order has been placed due to the difficulties in mass production of the WS-10A (WoShan-10A) turbofan engines and increased priority of WS-10A turbofan engines for the J-11B fighter jets.

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Report from September
China may buy Russian jet engines
China may buy Russian jet engines
After media reports suggested that China had reached an agreement to buy more than 100 Russian fighter jet engines, Russian plane engine manufacturer SALUT told the Global Times on Wednesday that Beijing had not ratified the deal."The contract will involve 140 to 150 engines, but it has not been confirmed by authorities in Beijing," Alexander A. Drozhzhin, the head of press for SALUT, told the Global Times at the Aviation Expo in Beijing on Wednesday.

The Russian state arms exporter, Rosoboronexport (ROE), announced in July a sale of 123 SALUT-made AL-31FN turbofan engines to China for $500 million, the Washington Times reported late August.

The engine is a variant of that used in the Su-27 and Su-30MKK/MK2 fighter jets and is designed to be used on China's single-engine J-10 aircraft, the paper added.

According to Drozhzhin, the reported deal involves the third series of the AL-31FN, which have a maximum thrust of 12,500 kilograms and 2,000-hour service life.

The AL-31FNs currently used on China's J-10s have 11,700-kilogram thrust and 1,500-hour service life, Drozhzhin told the Global Times.

China's air force development made headlines earlier this year after news about the prototype J-20 stealth plane emerged. However, aircraft engine design and manufacture have been lagging behind.

Since 2009, home-made Taihang engines, developed and produced by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), have been fitted to the double engine J-11 fighter jets, its J-15 carrier-based variant and an upgraded version of the J-10 single engine fighter.

Lin Zuoming, president of AVIC, told the Global Times in a previous interview that it had taken 20 years to develop the Taihang, and that work on the engine was progressing very well.

When asked if Chinese engines such as the Taihang would have any impact on the export of Russian engines, Drozhzhin said that SALUT was confident in the future sale prospects of their product.

"The Taihang's appearance on the J-15 meant its reliability and performance had met with high demands, such as those for carrier-based aircraft. That was a significant boost for China's flight engine development," Daniel Tong, Chinese aviation observer and founder of the website Chinese Military Aviation, told the Global Times.

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Now the Indians here posted it in October,every month this 122,110 or 140-150 AL-31FN deal will be disscussed again and again,lol.

 

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