China-India Geopolitics: News & Discussions

[Post Colonnial]

Xi' is a statesman but his dreams of quickly consolidation TOTAL power before forthcoming party meet seems to have hit a snag due to the unholy nexus with N.Korea for which China is being held to task and accountable. They have therefore tried this Doklan misadventure as a distraction. Unfortunately Modi/Doval/Jaitley government have stood their grounds with a near total popular support domestic & international. So now Xi has to find ways of backing off without losing face.

Modi being equally astute statesman will probably help find that face saving strategy for his friend Xi. These two guys fully understand the opportunity for the Asian century especially given how the west is divided thanks to Trump's immaturity bordering on naivety.

 

[Gadkari]

Is not obvious for Bhutan? They desire to normalized relation with China only the paranoid India is trying to sabotage our relation with Bhutan, you can be sure that India is about to lose Bhutan as we speak and that's in your government crystal ball.

And you just like to make empty claim about the balance of power tilt toward India without any foundation, you can continue to delude yourself, nobody care, as what I know China-India balance of power margin is become wide and wide into China's favor that's why you India is so scare.

I lol'ed that join war game is real enough, sure India desperately like so much that it can be real as an external power will come to rescue when India is in trouble but the reality tell otherwise: Tell us have much time India have war game with Soviets and what happen to Russia now... are they still on your side?

And why we need to delude ourself when India is already so paranoid over China-Bhutan normalization.

Both Bhutan and India seeks to normalize relations with china, but reality is not the same as wishful thinking. Bhutan knows this.

Any strategic or tactical disadvantage to India is also a similar disadvantage to Bhutan since we have promised to defend them.

India IS afraid about the growing disparity between India and chinese military strength. We are not in denial about it, which is why we are hardening our position to ensure we do not loose more advantage. Its you who are in denial and think you can bully India. But that is your privilege, we certainly don't care.

India never did have many war games with Russia. But they have still leased us two Nuclear submarines and have sold us a working Aircraft carrier with fighters and will be providing us with S400 Missile defense systems. They are also in talks with us for PAK FA. We are not complaining, but if you feel they are not with us, that again is not my problem. You are free to think what you want. Again, we really don't care.

So far the war games is only to develop close working relationship with partner navies and has not yet been expanded to include mutual assistance during war times. But it is one step closer to that goal if the need arise. That is how diplomacy plays out. Every threat by china makes the world take one step closer to contain china. Only a fool would not recognize this reality.

I don't know what you last line means, so I will leave it at that.

Don't say too loud, your future will be in real danger in India. @Gadkari

Is this some chinese joke ? I fail to understand. Why did you tag me ?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Both Bhutan and India seeks to normalize relations with china, but reality is not the same as wishful thinking. Bhutan knows this.

Any strategic or tactical disadvantage to India is also a similar disadvantage to Bhutan since we have promised to defend them.

India IS afraid about the growing disparity between India and chinese military strength. We are not in denial about it, which is why we are hardening our position to ensure we do not loose more advantage. Its you who are in denial and think you can bully India. But that is your privilege, we certainly don't care.

India never did have many war games with Russia. But they have still leased us two Nuclear submarines and have sold us a working Aircraft carrier with fighters and will be providing us with S400 Missile defense systems. They are also in talks with us for PAK FA. We are not complaining, but if you feel they are not with us, that again is not my problem. You are free to think what you want. Again, we really don't care.

So far the war games is only to develop close working relationship with partner navies and has not yet been expanded to include mutual assistance during war times. But it is one step closer to that goal if the need arise. That is how diplomacy plays out. Every threat by china makes the world take one step closer to contain china. Only a fool would not recognize this reality.

I don't know what you last line means, so I will leave it at that.

Bhutan surely know what they want, we can offer more incentive deal than what India could have done for Bhutan, take Nepal as example we offered 8 billions compare for a peanut 300 millions that India could offer and India know that it can't compete with China, so talk about defending Bhutan is just a pure bullshit excuse.

No matter how you hardening your position, you will never ensure to hold any advantage over China, our military budge is 3x of India and if you take into consideration of value engineer of our military output, we're more equivalent to US defense budget, just do a math and you can see that we can bring six to ten time the destructive power at your border any time.

Again you just delude yourself with wargame, it's not a commitment nor treaty, you can keep fantasize that other power will come rescue India, most likely these countries such US, Japan and even Vietnam will laugh at India for being so naïve, they all are premium trading partner with China, they do wargame just to show their unhappiness to China but ask them if they're willing to cut trade and tie with China for the sake of India...LMAO.

 

[Beast]

Bhutan is not part of India to "loose" it, but Bhutan has already seen the fate of Tibet and knows what to expect from China.

You are right to guess that they do not have a stomach for a fight, but they know which nation defends its integrity.

India has to keep a foot on this situation for 10-15 years after which the balance of power will shift again and I am pretty sure china is not going to have the last laugh.

If anything, chinese actions is destablising its borders and will force you to diver more and more resources to it in the future. This while India will continue to put pressure on the SCS using international allies.

I am not sure what kind of future you are seeing, but from where I stand, it does not look too bright for china.

Nepal know the ugly truth of alliance with India. Bhutan will follow Nepal soon. Indian is nothing but a big bully who treat small country with no dignity.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Nepal know the ugly truth of alliance with India. Bhutan will follow Nepal soon. Indian is nothing but a big bully who treat small country with no dignity.

India know that they're about to lose Bhutan so they just use the diversion tactic over Donglan to distract China but we didn't take the bait but wait patiently, their FM and border commanders are begging China to negotiate, we told them just to leave first.

 

[Gadkari]

Bhutan surely know what they want, we can offer more incentive deal than what India could have done for Bhutan, take Nepal as example we offered 8 billions compare for a peanut 300 millions that India could offer and India know that it can't compete with China, so talk about defending Bhutan is just a pure bullshit excuse.

No matter how you hardening your position, you will never ensure to hold any advantage over China, our military budge is 3x of India and if you take into consideration of value engineer of our military output, we're more equivalent to US defense budget, just do a math and you can see that we can bring six to ten time the destructive power at your border any time.

Again you just delude yourself with wargame, it's not a commitment nor treaty, you can keep fantasize that other power will come rescue India, most likely these countries such US, Japan and even Vietnam will laugh at India for being so naïve, they all are premium trading partner with China, they do wargame just to show their unhappiness to China but ask them if they're willing to cut trade and tie with China for the sake of India...LMAO.

Feel free to offer Billions of $ to Bhutan. You are free to consider our desire to defend Bhutan as "bullshit". That again is your prerogative, and we again do not care.

Similarly you are free to assume that we will never hold any advantage over you. I have no desire to educate your otherwise. You are free to do that math and then ACT on that math rather than give long winding speeches like a gas bag. It only makes you a laughing stock.

So far our war games has only grown stronger and we have been receiving more and more requests by other nations for participation, so the writing is on the wall. Feel free to laugh at them and discount them. That too is your prerogative.

There is nothing of substance in your post apart from the usual chinese bluster and bluff. A total waste of time and effort since nobody in India is impressed.

Nepal know the ugly truth of alliance with India. Bhutan will follow Nepal soon. Indian is nothing but a big bully who treat small country with no dignity.

Sure, why not . Did that make you feel better ?

India know that they're about to lose Bhutan so they just use the diversion tactic over Donglan to distract China but we didn't take the bait but wait patiently, their FM and border commanders are begging China to negotiate, we told them just to leave first.

Wow. Just wow.

You sure showed us your brilliance. How many times are you going to tell us to leave first ? 1 ? 2 ? 5 ? 10 ? 100 ?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Feel free to offer Billions of $ to Bhutan. You are free to consider our desire to defend Bhutan as "bullshit". That again is your prerogative, and we again do not care.

Similarly you are free to assume that we will never hold any advantage over you. I have no desire to educate your otherwise. You are free to do that math and then ACT on that math rather than give long winding speeches like a gas bag. It only makes you a laughing stock.

So far our war games has only grown stronger and we have been receiving more and more requests by other nations for participation, so the writing is on the wall. Feel free to laugh at them and discount them. That too is your prerogative.

There is nothing of substance in your post apart from the usual chinese bluster and bluff. A total waste of time and effort since nobody in India is impressed.

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Lol what have you brought as substance in your comments? just feel free to delude yourself of claiming to defend Bhutan, feel free of you war game as India security insurance and feel free to claim that your border hardening will offer India advantage...bottom line for China is how much TNT we can brought to India border

Wow. Just wow.

You sure showed us your brilliance. How many times are you going to tell us to leave first ? 1 ? 2 ? 5 ? 10 ? 100 ?

We keep telling your government as many time as when they request China to negotiate...we simply not negotiate with India

 

[Gadkari]

Lol what have you brought as substance in your comments? just feel free to delude yourself of claiming to defend Bhutan, fsdsdfsdfsdff

I am not claiming anything. Our troops are IN BHUTAN doing the needful like kick-out out the chinese and bulldozing your road building.This as per your own reports. In fact your reports claim we are doing that in chinese territory.

You are the one claiming all sort of things in absence of any worth while response.

We keep telling your government as many time as when they request China to negotiate...we simply not negotiate with India

This claim would have made more sense if you had NOT negotiated with us. Sadly you did negotiate with us even while we refused to move the troops.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This claim would have made more sense if you had NOT negotiated with us. Sadly you did negotiate with us even while we refused to move the troops.

Lol what did we negotiate, what was the deal?

 

[Gadkari]

Lol what did we negotiate, what was the deal?

No idea. Why not ask your govt. ? We certainly didn't go anywhere.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

No idea. Why not ask your govt. ? We certainly didn't go anywhere.

oh so no negotiation

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

So you think they met for tea ?

they met to tell your field commander to get you soldiers out of Dongla before wheither China will talk to India or not...that's the reality, you can ask @StraightShooter.

 

[kankan326]

This "Shawn Zhang" story is fabricated by Indians. The reasons are:

1,There are very few Chinese knowing "Quora". Cause most Chinese can't read English.
2, Every day there are thousands anti-China propaganda on the internet. China's government has no interest to care about who is bad mouthing it in "English" website. It is not worth doing that cause it won't have any effect on public.
3, As this guy uses nickname, no one knows who is "Shawn Zhang" or where he lives unless police interfere. How can ordinary Chinese threat him?

 

[Gadkari]

they met to tell your field commander to get you soldiers out of Dongla before wheither China will talk to India or not...that's the reality, you can ask @StraightShooter.

Meeting to talk about the problem and find solution is called Negotiations.

So you just admitted to the negotiations and also about the content of that negotiations.

Now also tell us what the Indian side said.

Did we tell you that we will go back or did we tell you to Stick it up your @ss ?

 

[qwerrty]

Worse, chinese are known for EATING Shit. Imagine that.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ith-the-chinese-villagers-who-swear-by-it-038



So you think they met for tea ?

your whole population smell like shit is well known. so what a few chinese wackos eat shit? have you ever heard of skat pron? many whitey and japs do that all the time to get off. fking disgusting