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In the US you would have been shot.

Or worse...run over by a tank!

BTW why are people here suddenly going off topic and dragging the US into this British/China/Hong Kong discussion? Shouldn't you be talking about the British police or something? They were the colonizers not us. Maybe you can talk about Botswana too.
 
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For all the tough talkers here the fact remains that a British judge has jailed 7 Chinese policemen for 2 years and the Chinese govt can do jacksh.t about it.
Gives the impression that the Chinese govt is weak even 20 years after handover.
Youtube is flooded with videos on what Hongkongers think about mainlanders, not at all complementary... call them locusts.
I see gradual erosion of what little authority China has in hk .
 
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Or worse...run over by a tank!

You believe in myth ?

https://myviewlss.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/birth-of-a-massacre-myth-by-gregory-clark/

For all the tough talkers here the fact remains that a British judge has jailed 7 Chinese policemen for 2 years and the Chinese govt can do jacksh.t about it.
Gives the impression that the Chinese govt is weak even 20 years after handover.
Youtube is flooded with videos on what Hongkongers think about mainlanders, not at all complementary... call them locusts.
I see gradual erosion of what little authority China has in hk .

Deng XiaoPing got Hong Kong back from the "IRON LADY" without firing a shot. :o:
China is so weak that even the "IRON LADY" capitulated. :D
 
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I don't think it violates the rules, here it is:


2 years each for the cops involved seems fair. Clear police brutality caught on tape.

The perps got what he deserve, he poured urine/shit to police officers in duty, which is a big personal insult in our culture. In USA, he would been shot.
 
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The perps got what he deserve, he poured urine/shit to police officers in duty, which is a big personal insult in our culture. In USA, he would been shot.

Yes there is always context to such from the police for sure given I know HK police (growing up there) are overall more trained and professional than average I have seen worldwide.

So I can empathise with the officers if what you say is true (do you have evidence of this btw?), but the court has to follow the law of the land to the letter.
 
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Yes there is always context to such from the police for sure given I know HK police (growing up there) are overall more trained and professional than average I have seen worldwide.

So I can empathise with the officers if what you say is true (do you have evidence of this btw?), but the court has to follow the law of the land to the letter.

It's a common knowledge within us
http://shanghaiist.com/2017/02/17/ken-tsang-police-sentencing.php
Tsang had testified in court that after he had splashed liquid from a bottle on a group of officers trying to clear a pro-democracy protest in Admiralty, he was arrested, had his hands bound behind his back, and was carried to a police substation where he was thrown to the ground and beaten.

you think spill bottled water on police officer will get him beaten like this?

by the way, I don't understand why HK still has British whites as Judges after the colonization ended for 20 years, who clearly holds a grudge and side with the perp on the ideologically ground

Ridiculous the perp got 5 month in the jail, while the POs got 2 years
 
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It's a common knowledge within us
http://shanghaiist.com/2017/02/17/ken-tsang-police-sentencing.php
Tsang had testified in court that after he had splashed liquid from a bottle on a group of officers trying to clear a pro-democracy protest in Admiralty, he was arrested, had his hands bound behind his back, and was carried to a police substation where he was thrown to the ground and beaten.

you think spill bottled water on police officer will get him beaten like this?

by the way, I don't understand why HK still has British whites as Judges after the colonization ended for 20 years, who clearly holds a grudge and side with the perp on the ideologically ground

Ridiculous the perp got 5 month in the jail, while the POs got 2 years

Yah I agree 5 months is unfair for this guy in comparison for 2 years for the cops.

Are the judges elected for life in HK? Or do they have term limits?
 
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Typical cheap shot by you. When China take over HK law and you haters will then claim PRC goes back on words and did not uphold one country 2 system rules.

Why are you combining me with those so called haters?
And I am not saying to take over HK law. You have given a word, and it must be followed.
I have always recommended the following things regarding HK:

1. Immediately declare that after 2047, there will be no special privileges for HK. It will be treated like Shanghai.
2. Increase two way immigration between HK and Mainland, so that poor HK people flow out of HK and settle in Mainland for cheaper costs, and rich Mainlanders go out and settle in HK.
3. Decrease the free-visa arrangements with other countries vis a vis HK.
4. Keep pushing the national security law.
5. Keep increasing influence over HK.

He is simply doing light mockery by bringing up white judges, etc . Let's call it reverse arguing. By implying to stand for something in a radical way that he-she normally- in fact hates to the bone.

Hope mods take this mocking behavior into consideration.

Why do you take negative intent on my part?
I don't hate anything to the bone.
Read ALL OF MY COMMENTS before, and tell me anything that I have said against Chinese territorial integrity.

I am defending China and its interests rather.

the two hanjian

Please do away with this word "Hanjian."
It seems to imply that China is only a country of Hans, when instead it is the country of Hua.

By calling equating China to Han, you do foreign aggressors a favor, because then they get to claim that minority groups, and their lands are not legitimate parts of China.
 
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Yah I agree 5 months is unfair for this guy in comparison for 2 years for the cops.
Actually he is only charged with 5 weeks for attacking police officers. This incident is only a trigger after many controversial verdicts by our judges. Maximum imprisonment for riot in HK are 10 years, but the harshest imprisonment so far that had been charged was 9 months and not to mention some got community services or their charge dropped, while the maximum imprisonment for those police officers is only 3 years. To be honest, those police officers deserved to be jailed since they broke the laws, but why the double standard? Since attacking both police and civilian, and set fire on street which are serious crimes in HK, and can also cause serious damage to both human and property. Most people are disappointed at our judges' ruling, not the length of the sentences for the 7 police officers.

PS: for my HK fellows there is a radio link for more interesting facts about our JudgeDavid Dufton and other stuffs:
http://www.chineseradio.com/main/節目重溫/時事觀察/
Seach "02/20/2017 余非", it only comes with Contonese, but worth listening.
 
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Can they be relieved of their duties ?
Hardly. But what Beijing doing is try to make Article 23 as a laws in the next CE term. Article 23 is simply a laws that covers our national security. It had been introduced once in 2003, but was withdrawn by huge protest. This is also the cause why we have traitors everywhere in HK. Also once Article 23 become laws, it will provide a great help to fight against treason. However, it will be a very tough fight to install this laws both politically and publicly.
 
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Actually he is only charged with 5 weeks for attacking police officers. This incident is only a trigger after many controversial verdicts by our judges. Maximum imprisonment for riot in HK are 10 years, but the harshest imprisonment so far that had been charged was 9 months and not to mention some got community services or their charge dropped, while the maximum imprisonment for those police officers is only 3 years. To be honest, those police officers are deserved to be jail since they break the laws, but why the doubt standard? Since attacking both police and civilian, and set fire on street are serious crimes in HK, and can be also caused serious damage to both human and property. Most people are disappointed of our judges' ruling, not the length of the sentences for the 7 police officers.

PS: for my HK fellows there is a radio link for more interesting facts about our JudgeDavid Dufton and other stuffs:
http://www.chineseradio.com/main/節目重溫/時事觀察/
Seach "02/20/2017 余非", it only comes with Contonese, but worth listening.

Can you tell me if HK high court and appeal judges have term limits or are they assigned for life?

i.e are the foreign judges simply continuing their positions from before the handover?
 
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Can you tell me if HK high court and appeal judges have term limits or are they assigned for life?

i.e are the foreign judges simply continuing their positions from before the handover?
I think we have both Permanent Judges and Non-Permanent Judges at the highest level (Final Appeal Court). The rest including High Court Judges and Appeal Judges are appointed which serve as a two years term, and can be appointed for further term. Still the recommendation of those offices are made by their own people. I'm not sure if they are just continuing their positions, but this is possible.
 
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Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor wins Hong Kong S.A.R’s top job, the Chief Executive

SCMP - 2017-03-26

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Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and husband, mathematician Professor Lam Siu-por and son

Lam will be the City’s first female chief executive-elect. The votes have been tallied, and Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor has won by a landslide.

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The three HKSAR CE candidates: Woo Kwok-hing (L), Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and John Tsang Chun-wah (SCMP)

Lam, 59, won 777 votes from the 1,194-member Election Committee. The former chief secretary beat former finance chief John Tsang Chun-wah and retired judge Woo Kwok-hing, who took 365 and 21 votes respectively.

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Hong Kong S.A.R Chief Executive election official results (2017-03-26 - SCMP)

Lam was widely seen as Beijing’s preferred candidate while Tsang was said to have lacked the central government’s full trust. As for Woo, winning the race was seen as mission impossible.

On Sunday morning, the brief election period began with election committee members casting their votes between 9am and 11am at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre in Wan Chai.

Lam, who turns 60 in May, joined the British colonial government in 1980 after graduating from the University of Hong Kong, where she majored in sociology.

In the 1990s, she spent almost seven years in the finance bureau working on budget planning and expenditure control. In 2000, she was made social welfare director. As welfare chief, she introduced several controversial reforms, such as tightening the social security assistance scheme.

To some, however, Lam has a tender side too. A citizen named “Uncle Fook” wrote a letter about his hardship to Lam when she was director of social welfare. She helped him move into a housing unit for the elderly. Since then, she has kept in touch with him and visits him regularly.

During the Sars outbreak in 2003, Lam, together with three other senior civil servants in their personal capacity, set up a fund to help the long-term education needs of children whose parents had died from the disease.

Lam was appointed as permanent secretary for housing, planning and lands in 2003 and was posted to head the government trade office in London the following year. In 2006, she returned to Hong Kong to take up the position as permanent secretary for home affairs.
In 2007, she was appointed by then chief executive Donald Tsang Yam-kuen as secretary for development.

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Lam became chief secretary in Leung’s administration in 2012

Lam had earlier denied any ambition to contest the top post, but she made a U-turn on December 10 last year and said she would “reconsider” running for the job – less than 24 hours after Leung’s shock announcement that he had decided not to seek a second term.

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On January 12, she resigned as the chief secretary and ended her 36-year civil service career. Four days later, with Beijing’s endorsement of her resignation, she declared her candidacy for the leadership race.

Lam married to the mathematician Professor Lam Siu-por. The couple married in 1984 and have two sons.

The professor had expressed his wish for his wife to be elected and “contribute to the implementation of one ‘country, two systems’”.

Despite the ups and downs in her civil service career and her electioneering missteps, Beijing, believing she was a person it could trust, did not waver in its support for her.

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Congratulations Mrs. Lam!

I hope this Lady Chief Executive will be an "Iron Lady" of Hong Kong S.A.R to deal decisively with those alien-injected yellow pests.
 
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