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[bbccdd1470]

You guys are so clueless.

China already took control of our city during the Handover in 1997, I remember because I was there with my entire family (though I was too young to remember very much).

There is no possibility of HK independence, that's simply not a practical reality. Hong Kong was never a country, our country has always been China.

HK independence is a joke. But I think the only trouble for China is the HK judicial branch, where there have been infiltrated with many "Foreign Liberal" judges and their judgement prove to be worrysome.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

In PDF New member registration, if you scroll down to the flag of Hong Kong, it says this, "Hong Kong, Province of China".

We aren't a province though, we are a Special Administrative Region. It's like a province but it sounds way more sexy.

 

[terranMarine]

HK independence is a joke. But I think the only trouble for China is the HK judicial branch, where there have been infiltrated with many "Foreign Liberal" judges and their judgement prove to be worrysome.

After 3 decades i hope they will kick out those foreign judges and implement Mainland laws and system.

 

[Nilgiri]

We aren't a province though, we are a Special Administrative Region. It's like a province but it sounds way more sexy.

Do you live in HK right now? I miss the HK business spirit no matter which part of the world I am in. Nothing quite like it anywhere I've been.

 

[samsara]

You guys are so clueless.

China already took control of our city during the Handover in 1997, I remember because I was there with my entire family (though I was too young to remember very much).

There is no possibility of HK independence, that's simply not a practical reality. Hong Kong was never a country, our country has always been China.

INDEED if any poster in PDF cares to open the MAP (of the World/Asia/China), yes the map to grasp the geographic location, the physical proximity then he will see and grasp the hard facts that all talks/comments/expositions/insinuations about the separation/secession/independence of Hong Kong SAR from China is a nonsensical idea! All the yellow crap farces can do there is to create some problems... but farther than that is an impossibility!

Do you folks here ever realize that at some historical junction the British "Iron Lady" Margaret Thatcher during the long negotiation period about returning Hong Kong to China indeed thought of the possibility of resorting to military force to deny the island returning? Only after her close advisers pointed out such blatant impossibility then she dropped such wild idea. This provoking thinking happened during Thatcher's high time after the British victory over the Argentina in military conflict claiming the Malvinas (Falkland) Island.

 

[TaiShang]

HK independence dead as stone for very very long time:

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

INDEED if any poster in PDF cares to open the MAP (of the World/Asia/China), yes the map to grasp the geographic location, the physical proximity then he will see and grasp the hard facts that all talks/comments/expositions/insinuations about the separation/secession/independence of Hong Kong SAR from China is a nonsensical idea! All the yellow crap farces can do there is to create some problems... but farther than that is an impossibility!

Do you folks here ever realize that at some historical junction the British "Iron Lady" Margaret Thatcher during the long negotiation period about returning Hong Kong to China indeed thought of the possibility of resorting to military force to deny the island returning? Only after her close advisers pointed out such blatant impossibility then she dropped such wild idea. This provoking thinking happened during Thatcher's high time after the British victory over the Argentina in military conflict claiming the Malvinas (Falkland) Island.

Yes in fact the majority of land in Hong Kong (i.e. New Territories and Kowloon) is physically connected to the Mainland. And nobody in the world can hope to win a ground war there against China. It's not even worth thinking about.

The Pan-Democracy camp had some good ideas once (and noble ideals at some point), but they have become too corrupted and crazy, and in many cases just being outright traitors.

Even if Hong Kongers like myself sympathise with some of their goals, there is no way I can possibly vote for them now.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

As it should be.

One Country Two Systems is an historical anomaly waiting to be corrected.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

I'm asking CCP to declare that there won't be this thing after 2047.

Because you know what?

Many interests in Hong Kong would be fighting for privileges beyond 2047.

 

[Jlaw]

HK independence is a joke. But I think the only trouble for China is the HK judicial branch, where there have been infiltrated with many "Foreign Liberal" judges and their judgement prove to be worrysome.

I think that was what the Indian was implying by using Dufton as the example.

 

[Beast]

Just when is China going to show some spine and take some control over HK?

The worst I feel is when random white people come in HK, and after some years, start advocating for HK independence.

National Security Law should be strictly implemented in HK.

Typical cheap shot by you. When China take over HK law and you haters will then claim PRC goes back on words and did not uphold one country 2 system rules.

 

[TaiShang]

Typical cheap shot by you. When China take over HK law and you haters will then claim PRC goes back on words and did not uphold one country 2 system rules.

He is simply doing light mockery by bringing up white judges, etc . Let's call it reverse arguing. By implying to stand for something in a radical way that he-she normally- in fact hates to the bone.

Hope mods take this mocking behavior into consideration.

 

[bbccdd1470]

I think that was what the Indian was implying by using Dufton as the example.

Yeah, I think so and he is possibly right. Our judicial branch is like a kingdom within HK, no one can touch them. Also they seems to cooperate with Civic party "公民黨" that has caused many controversies in HK, such as Children born in Hong Kong to non-Hong Kong residents and social security for people that do not live in HK for 7 years (non-citizen). For me, Civic party is much worse than Democrats party, since their members are mostly lawyers and few are so called "social workers", such as Ken Tsang who attacked police first then got beat up. As I said because they are lawyers, they know very well how to play around with laws and court. Most of the delay of construction projects from Court are done by them. It costs us a lots of tax money and time. Civic party also provided free services for those rioters who attacked police and set fire on street during occupy movement and riot last year. And our "Foreign Judges" lets those rioters either community service or short sentences, not to mention some of them even go free. That's also the reason why people get very upset about their ruling, since they are always double standard.

 

[Nan Yang]

Hong Kong lawmaker brands British judge a ‘yellow heart’ after seven policemen are jailed

Legislator makes reference to symbolic colour of protest movement and raises question about court prejudice

A day after the justice minister warned internet users not to post abusive comments about judges, a lawmaker on Friday branded a foreign judge a “white skin with yellow heart” – symbolic colour of the Occupy Central pro-democracy movement.

Speaking in a Legislative Council debate on the city’s governance, Wong Kwok-kin of the Federation of Trade Unions touched on a court decision to jail seven police officers for two years each for beating up activist Ken Tsang Kin-chiu during a protest in 2014.

He would let the public decide if the term was “unreasonably harsh” and then said: “I would like to ask if anyone in the judiciary has been making judgments that shock the public because of their prejudice?

“Some lawmakers mentioned that those who threw bricks received a lenient sentence, while those who threw eggs were jailed. What kind of logic is this?”

Citing an old derogatory term, Wong said: “In the past, Hongkongers described ‘fake foreigners’ as people with ‘yellow skin but a white heart’, but today I have to describe a judge as a ‘white skin with yellow heart’ – the yellow of a yellow ribbon.”

Similar remarks related to the case made online on Thursday prompted Secretary for Justice Rimsky Yuen Kwok-keung to warn against inappropriate criticism of the judiciary. He said there would be follow-up action.

Wong refused to say if he was pinpointing David Dufton – the British judge who sent the seven officers to prison.

“I don’t know if he would identify himself with my description. He can think about what I said.”

Wong added that he supported the police force’s plan to help the officers appeal.

“I hope the judiciary can take the initiative in correcting the fallacies in this case and be accountable to Hongkongers.”

Since Tuesday, when Dufton found the seven officers guilty of assault, there has been a mixed response on social media, with police supporters posting insulting criticism and abuse.

Former security minister Regina Ip Lau Suk-yee, who is running for chief executive, said the sentence was too harsh and unfair to the officers.

Yuen said in Legco that inappropriate criticism about the judiciary must be avoided.

“It would be the liberty of people of Hong Kong and their right as guaranteed under the constitution to comment on the verdicts and judgments made by judges and the court. But ... in exercising such constitutional right people should do it responsibly,” he said.

“Residents must also understand that the court is responsible for making judgments based on evidence and laws. Its judgment did not negate the work of the police force.”

He said the judiciary was concerned about some social media comments on the case and had referred them to the Department of Justice for follow-up action.

Police Commissioner Stephen Lo Wai-chung said the court ruling had left him with a heavy heart and he had approved a move by police unions to raise money to support the officers while an appeal was considered.

“I can totally understand why my colleagues are disappointed and frustrated by the court verdict. I will actively stay in touch and close contact with the unions, the seven officers and their families, and support them all round,” Lo said.

He did not reply when asked if he would apologise to the public for the wrongdoings of the seven.


http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...maker-brands-british-judge-yellow-heart-after

 

[TaiShang]

Yeah, I think so and he is possibly right. Our judicial branch is like a kingdom within HK, no one can touch them. Also they seems to cooperate with Civic party "公民黨" that has caused many controversies in HK, such as Children born in Hong Kong to non-Hong Kong residents and social security for people that do not live in HK for 7 years (non-citizen). For me, Civic party is mush worse than Democrats party, since their members are mostly lawyer and few are so called "social worker", such as Ken Tsang who attacked police first then got beat up. As I said because they are lawyer, they know very well how to play around with laws and court. Most of the delay of construction projects from Court are done by them. It costs us a lots of tax money and time. Civic party also provided free services for those rioters who attacked police and set fire on street during occupy movement and riot last year. And our "Foreign Judges" lets those rioters either community service or short sentences, not to mention some of them even go free. That's also the reason why people get very upset about their ruling, since they are always double standard.

Foreign judges/public officials on China's soil is a significant damage to China's sovereignty (which is an extension of OCTS model). Perhaps it is good that this verdict has helped brought up this issue to be debated publicly.

Mainland media and patriotic HK media should go aggressively on this issue and do not let it sink or disappear. Even before cancelling out the OCTS model, Mainland should go ahead and encourage the HK local administration to change the regulations that allow double residency-passport holding (because they are not citizen as HK is not a state).

Step by step, customs management and passports must be unified with that of the Mainland.

 

[ahojunk]

It's already twenty years since Hong Kong returned to the mainland.

When is Hong Kong getting rid of these foreign judges?