'China has changed its Kashmir policy'

[Abhishek_]

^i LOLed. . .

Side-note: China's last year's flood assistance to Pakistan: $47million
China's current flood assistance to Pakistan: $4.7 million.

Higher than mountains? barely a mole hill.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Well Ares...your logic here is flawed

1 Pakistani does not represent the millions of Pakistanis....But one Chinese on PDF does represent a Billion Chinese civilians + their CPC masters

Next time think before you type....

Hey buddy, it's not me who stationed PLA troops in Pakistani Kashmir.

It's not me who is issuing stapled visas, or protecting JuD in the UNSC.

It's not me who helped Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons.

That was my government. Even I don't hate India that much to provide nuclear weapons to their enemies.

 

[Abhishek_]

the sarcasm is lost on you CD. :facepalm:

 

[Uchiha]

Yeah, one Pakistani out of how many millions.

Dude..there is no such thig as Pakistani kashmir, there's an on going war, the LoC is purely political, both the 'kashmirs' are actually one Pakistan
So please dont use 'pakistani kashmir', unoccupied or Azad kashmir is more accurate

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Dude..there is no such thig as Pakistani kashmir, there's an on going war, the LoC is purely political, both the 'kashmirs' are actually one Pakistan
So please dont use 'pakistani kashmir', unoccupied or Azad kashmir is more accurate

OK buddy, so should I call it Azad Kashmir and Giglit Baltistan?

How about "Pakistan's Northern Areas" like the Chinese government uses?

 

[RockyX]

OK buddy, so should I call it Azad Kashmir and Giglit Baltistan?

How about "Pakistan's Northern Areas" like the Chinese government uses?

You don't know what you talking. It's getting very boring with same kind of troll 24x7. Now even there is neither funny nor any sarcasm. Nothing new is left from you. Since, Mod won't give you break you can take a break from too much of trolling. I am sure you must be exhausted as whenever i came online i saw you trolling.

 

[r3alist]

you know people really need to get out of this mindset that china is some sort of saviour, it has its own interests and pursues them via pakistan.

pakistan need to ensure that china's interests can be aligned with its own, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Secur]

and since when , some professors are deploying Chinese policies ? ... After all the development projects in Azad Kashmir and stapled visas to Indians ... Who can surely think Chinese policy on Kashmir has taken a gradual shift ?

This comes close on the heels of a controversy over the Chinese Embassy in Delhi issuing separate visas to Indian passport holders from Indian-administered Kashmir. Instead of stamping the passport with a visa, as is the norm with Indian citizens, Kashmiri students and businessmen traveling to China have had their visas stamped on a separate paper stapled to the passport. Hitherto, it was only passports of travelers from Arunachal Pradesh, a state in the Indian northeast over which China lays claim and briefly occupied in a 1962 war, that the Chinese avoided stamping with their official seal. Indian passport holders from Arunachal visiting China were issued visas on paper stapled to the passport. Now that has been extended to those from Kashmir.
By issuing Kashmiris a visa different from that of other Indians, is China now questioning Kashmir's status as an integral part of India? By not affixing its official seal on the passports of Kashmiri Indians, is China avoiding endorsing the Indian citizenship of Kashmiris? (Asia Times )

China calls *** 'northern Pakistan', J&K is 'India-controlled Kashmir'


China on Thursday denied a report that it has deployed 11,000 soldiers in the Gilgit-Baltistan region of ***************** Kashmir. But the Chinese foreign ministry described the disputed area as "northern part of Pakistan". It refrained calling it *** while describing India's Jammu & Kashmir as "India controlled Kashmir".

How dramatic OMG !

 

[Secur]

China Provokes Over Kashmir

Speaking at a seminar in Islamabad entitled ‘Evolving Global and Regional Scenario’, Liu reportedly said that China’s visa policy towards Kashmir is consistent and will remain unchanged. This public confirmation of the controversial policy has angered Indians familiar with Liu’s comments because it could well indicate a hardening of the policy on the Chinese side over what remains a very sensitive issue.
The significance of the fact that the statement has been made by the Chinese ambassador to Pakistan, on Pakistani soil, hasn’t been lost on New Delhi. China has publicly taken sides on the Kashmir issue, and made clear to the world who it is backing. Liu’s statement must have been music to Pakistani ears as Pakistan issues regular visas to residents of Pakistan-held Kashmir.

Now that is one Indian journalist and the official stance of your Govt ... The question is whom do Indians believe ?

 

[IndoCarib]

@ secur

Both the articles you posted are old ! 'China has changed its Kashmir policy' is the latest !

 

[Secur]

@ secur

Both the articles you posted are old ! 'China has changed its Kashmir policy' is the latest !

Just because a Pakistani journalist said so ? ... You amaze me ... If that was the case , Indian media would have been highlighting it far and wide ... Is it so ? Have Chinese stopped development work in Azad Kashmir and Northern Areas or giving stapled visas to Kashmiris ?

 

[Bhairava]

Just because a Pakistani journalist said so ? ... You amaze me ... If that was the case , Indian media would have been highlighting it far and wide ... Is it so ? Have Chinese stopped development work in Azad Kashmir and Northern Areas or giving stapled visas to Kashmiris ?

They have stopped that long back. Dont you know ?

 

[Secur]

^^not yet

Post some source
I still cant understand what measures has China taken to indicate a change in policy ? Did it support India in Security council or asked Pakistan to back off from Kashmir ? lol

 

[Secur]

@ secur

Both the articles you posted are old ! 'China has changed its Kashmir policy' is the latest !

Didn't you just state otherwise in another thread mentioning how China should change its Kashmir at last ?

NEW DELHI: India has upped the ante against Chinese activities in Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

A few months ago, when China sent a diplomatic protest (demarche) to India regarding proposed oil and gas exploration in the South China Sea off Vietnam, India had refused to entertain it. Instead, in its reply, India told China that it should stop its activities in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (***).

In fact, India has followed up its criticism with another strongly worded representation to China, issued a few weeks ago, asking it to stop its activities in ***. India said Pakistan was in illegal occupation of that part of Kashmir and Chinese activities were in contravention of international norms. In Vietnam, India's ONGC and Petro Vietnam are in a joint venture in oil exploration in the South China Sea. India bought BP's assets in the project after it exited in 2006.

India has particular concerns on two infrastructure projects by China in ***: the Diamer-Bhasha dam and upgradation of the Karakoram Highway. While China has insisted that these are all civilian in nature, India remains concerned that the Chinese presence here poses a security threat. In 2010, foreign minister SM Krishna told his Chinese counterpart that Kashmir was a "core" issue for India in the way that Tibet and Taiwan were "core" issues for China. This was in response to the stapled visas that China issues to Indian citizens from Jammu and Kashmir.

Answering questions in Rajya Sabha last month, the foreign ministry had said, "Government is aware that China is executing infrastructure projects in ***************** Kashmir. Government has raised this issue with the Chinese side and has clearly conveyed India's consistent position that Pakistan has been in illegal occupation of parts of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir since 1947. Government has conveyed its concerns to China about their activities in ***************** Kashmir, and asked them to cease such activities."

During a recent visit to China by Pakistan president Asif Zardari, he took along the PM and other notables from *** even to Xinjiang. This was accepted without question by the Chinese authorities. Given that China issues stapled visas to Indians from J&K on the grounds that it was "disputed", the Chinese silence on the *** presence in the Zardari delegation was interpreted as meaning that China considered *** a legitimate part of Pakistan. This would be double standards, said Indian officials.

In April 2011, the Northern Army commander, Lt Gen KT Parnaik, had said at a seminar, "Chinese presence in Gilgit-Baltistan and the Northern Areas is increasing steadily... There are many people who are concerned about the fact that if there was to be hostility between us and Pakistan, what would be the complicity of Chinese. Not only they are in the neighbourhood but the fact is that they are actually present and stationed along the LoC."

It's unlikely that China will back off from its *** presence, just as it will be difficult for India to do so in the South China Sea as well. China pushed matters there recently by harassing an Indian ship in the waters. This prompted India to clearly articulate its position that it considered South China Sea to be international waters and that India stood for freedom of navigation in these waters.


Keep off ***, India warns China - The Times of India

 

[Bhairava]

^^not yet

Post some source
I still cant understand what measures has China taken to indicate a change in policy ? Did it support India in Security council or asked Pakistan to back off from Kashmir ? lol

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/53181-china-issues-stamped-visa-kashmiri.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/103094-china-issues-normal-visas-j-k-journalists.html

Never knew your "deeper than ocean" friend will go back on that ?

Here read this also;

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/uae-issues-stapled-visa-to-***-residents-i/786333/

LOL.