China halts Iran oil orders

[Tejas Spokesman]

These RSSer should first look at themselves, their dead hindu president talked about SUPA POWA IN 2012.

He never said that.
He about the steps one should take to be a superpower.

I now officially proclaim a country that ranks worse than North Korea in terms of hunger, is now a SUPA POWA!

You are nobody so can't proclaim anything

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

What data do you want? The current world order is based upon "needs" not "trust" arising out of skewed natural resource distribution. So, it is quite logical to say so. It is also a well known fact that Islam does not permit regional difference but seeks social governance. So, it will be quite odd and foolish to declare muslim countries as separate in interest unless there is some theological difference between the interpretation of Islam.

There is actually an interpretation difference though.

 

[hasnainfirst]

According to Press TV while South Korea has ordered a few barrels.
China is yet to place a single order after US sanctions.

Surprise Surpise.
No words from @BHarwana @Moonlight @Ghareeb_Da_Baal @Indus Pakistan @hasnainfirst on so called 'Superpower' China succumbing to US pressure on Iran.

Whatever you say , but China is infact a superpower unlike your Shupa powa india

 

[Han Patriot]

Whatever you say , but China is infact a superpower unlike your Shupa powa india

By his logic SK is now a supapowa since they bought a few barrels. I am not even sure it's possible to buy a FEW barrels.lol

 

[cirr]

China buys all so long as Iran is willing to accept payments in RMB.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

China buys all so long as Iran is willing to accept payments in RMB.

This is oil ordered in April but came slightly late. There were several tankers sitting near China or travelling to waiting to be unloaded before May itself. Now some are being unloaded

By his logic SK is now a supapowa since they bought a few barrels. I am not even sure it's possible to buy a FEW barrels.lol

Saying LOL will not change facts. I never stated that buying Iran oil will make someone a superpower. The debate came only because of some jingoist Chinese making statement that India is cowardly to buy Iranian oil but Chinese never bows to USA sanctions and will always buy Iranian oil. So, I am only asking you to show me details of new orders after May1 sanction end

 

[Han Patriot]

This is oil ordered in April but came slightly late. There were several tankers sitting near China or travelling to waiting to be unloaded before May itself. Now some are being unloaded


Saying LOL will not change facts. I never stated that buying Iran oil will make someone a superpower. The debate came only because of some jingoist Chinese making statement that India is cowardly to buy Iranian oil but Chinese never bows to USA sanctions and will always buy Iranian oil. So, I am only asking you to show me details of new orders after May1 sanction end

I just told you, please prove to me China did not buy Iranian oil at all. Shipments and delivery are two different things. One second, you tell me those stuck at port now were shipments for previous orders, the next moment you are calling us cowards for not unloading it, then now you are saying we are not gonna buy it. You seem to be able to predict the future. Do you have access to every single oil contract China signed? Your country is already a well known US poodle, now even stopping Venezuelan oil due to US pressure.

Then you claim every single oil tanker is tracked. Ships get tracked if they want to be tracked, its not the other way round genius.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I just told you, please prove to me China did not buy Iranian oil at all. Shipments and delivery are two different things. One second, you tell me those stuck at port now were shipments for previous orders, the next moment you are calling us cowards for not unloading it, then now you are saying we are not gonna buy it. You seem to be able to predict the future.

Unloading older shipment is not same as making new orders. I never said China won't unload older shipment. Even India has some older Iranian oil coming even after sanctions ended as the refineries and storage are sometimes full and request delay of arrival of oil by 1-2 weeks. Moreover, distance between China and Iran is 9000km which will mean it takes 2 weeks for one-way trip. So, oil coming now must have been ordered before sanctions

Your country is already a well known US poodle, now even stopping Venezuelan oil due to US pressure.

India has regularly imported 300,000 BPD oil from Venezuela. India never stopped any Venezuelan oil contract.Indi even supplies diluent to Venezuela to help them process more oil.

Then you claim every single oil tanker is tracked. Ships get tracked if they want to be tracked, its not the other way round genius.

You are assuming that ships are only tracked by trackers. Reality is that the ships are also tracked by radars, satellites and drone surveillance. Since USA has bases in Arab peninsula, it regularly does surveillance to check if Iran is sending any oil tanker outside and then follows its movement periodically and at choke points like Malacca straits. You must be a real retard if you think that anonymous and random ships can simply move around in Malacca straits or in other countries' territorial waters without proper permits

Bottom Line: Please provide me authentic news that China has bought Iranian oil after sanctions.

 

[Ryan]

The truth is only a few people in Iran and China really know the situation. The public can only learn about China's importing Iran's oil from the announcement of sanctions imposed by the US. That may be in about 6 months or 12 months. Or when the tension cools down in the future, someone may spell the beans.

Unloading older shipment is not same as making new orders. I never said China won't unload older shipment. Even India has some older Iranian oil coming even after sanctions ended as the refineries and storage are sometimes full and request delay of arrival of oil by 1-2 weeks. Moreover, distance between China and Iran is 9000km which will mean it takes 2 weeks for one-way trip. So, oil coming now must have been ordered before sanctions


India has regularly imported 300,000 BPD oil from Venezuela. India never stopped any Venezuelan oil contract.Indi even supplies diluent to Venezuela to help them process more oil.


You are assuming that ships are only tracked by trackers. Reality is that the ships are also tracked by radars, satellites and drone surveillance. Since USA has bases in Arab peninsula, it regularly does surveillance to check if Iran is sending any oil tanker outside and then follows its movement periodically and at choke points like Malacca straits. You must be a real retard if you think that anonymous and random ships can simply move around in Malacca straits or in other countries' territorial waters without proper permits

Bottom Line: Please provide me authentic news that China has bought Iranian oil after sanctions.

 

[Han Patriot]

Unloading older shipment is not same as making new orders. I never said China won't unload older shipment. Even India has some older Iranian oil coming even after sanctions ended as the refineries and storage are sometimes full and request delay of arrival of oil by 1-2 weeks. Moreover, distance between China and Iran is 9000km which will mean it takes 2 weeks for one-way trip. So, oil coming now must have been ordered before sanctions

Which was what I had been saying all along right? You were all hoo hah when some oil shipments were stranded for a month, then now you are all hoo hah saying we are not buying oil from Iran. Please please prove to me. Do you have access to Chinese oil contracts? Tell me what is the incentive in NOT BUYING IRANIAN OIL? We are not a poodle like India, we are having a trade war, so what is STOPPING US?

India has regularly imported 300,000 BPD oil from Venezuela. India never stopped any Venezuelan oil contract.Indi even supplies diluent to Venezuela to help them process more oil.

So you are telling me India is not afraid of US sanctions yet you stopped buying Iranian oil ? Last I heard Reliance is stopping Venezuelan crude and trying desperately to prove to US they are complying. Such a docile and loyal poodle, you see any chinese companies doing that? They just dun gif a fck

You are assuming that ships are only tracked by trackers. Reality is that the ships are also tracked by radars, satellites and drone surveillance. Since USA has bases in Arab peninsula, it regularly does surveillance to check if Iran is sending any oil tanker outside and then follows its movement periodically and at choke points like Malacca straits. You must be a real retard if you think that anonymous and random ships can simply move around in Malacca straits or in other countries' territorial waters without proper permits

Bottom Line: Please provide me authentic news that China has bought Iranian oil after sanctions.

I am not assuming, I am telling you, COMMERCIAL ships are tracked by trackers. Hijackers turn it off after hijacking it. The US does not track nor is capable of tracking so many ships, their assets is primarily used for tracking naval ships. Understand genius? Yes alot of ships do pass through the seas and straits in international water anonymously. Do you know how many ships were lost and missing in Malacca straits? Track that genius.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Which was what I had been saying all along right? You were all hoo hah when some oil shipments were stranded for a month, then now you are all hoo hah saying we are not buying oil from Iran. Please please prove to me. Do you have access to Chinese oil contracts? Tell me what is the incentive in NOT BUYING IRANIAN OIL? We are not a poodle like India, we are having a trade war, so what is STOPPING US?

I don't have access to contracts. But there is no news that China has defied sanctions. Just like Israel buys Iran oil from black market or trading platforms, China too may buy Iran oil in black market via stealthy pipeline in Afghanistan or via Russia. But China does not have the guts to defy sanction.

The incentive to not buying Iranian oil is that Arabs will sell more oil to China. It is a question of choosing between GCC or Iran.

So you are telling me India is not afraid of US sanctions yet you stopped buying Iranian oil ? Last I heard Reliance is stopping Venezuelan crude and trying desperately to prove to US they are complying. Such a docile and loyal poodle, you see any chinese companies doing that? They just dun gif a fck

Reliance only stated that they don't sell anything to Venezuela from its USA subsidiary. But that does not stop Reliance from selling via Indian company. Reliance still sells Venezuela the diluent needed

I am not assuming, I am telling you, COMMERCIAL ships are tracked by trackers. Hijackers turn it off after hijacking it. The US does not track nor is capable of tracking so many ships, their assets is primarily used for tracking naval ships. Understand genius? Yes alot of ships do pass through the seas and straits in international water anonymously. Do you know how many ships were lost and missing in Malacca straits? Track that genius.

When there is a special interest in monitoring Iran sanctions, USA and Arabs will be monitoring the ships. It is easy to monitor as Iran is just next doors of Arabs. It is important to track all ships, not just tracker based ones as coast guards also have to ensure that terrorist boats don't come from sea and cause harm.

The truth is only a few people in Iran and China really know the situation. The public can only learn about China's importing Iran's oil from the announcement of sanctions imposed by the US. That may be in about 6 months or 12 months. Or when the tension cools down in the future, someone may spell the beans.

China may be buying in black market or via Russia but definitely not like what @Han Patriot claims to be showing its might as super power, defying sanctions

 

[Han Patriot]

I don't have access to contracts. But there is no news that China has defied sanctions. Just like Israel buys Iran oil from black market or trading platforms, China too may buy Iran oil in black market via stealthy pipeline in Afghanistan or via Russia. But China does not have the guts to defy sanction.

The incentive to not buying Iranian oil is that Arabs will sell more oil to China. It is a question of choosing between GCC or Iran.

No news?
China Set To Defy U.S. Sanctions On Iran
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/China-Set-To-Defy-US-Sanctions-On-Iran.html

We don't have to buy it via black or white market, only Chinese market. We just use a different bank and company with no US trade exposure for that, understand? You are the one who is docile not us. With or without sanctions, the Arabs were already desperate to sell oil to us, that's not an incentive, we can buy cheaper Iranian, why buy Arab oil at market prices genius. We just gave US the middle finger in trade, we have no guts? Today only country with guts is us. You OTOH is a loyal poodle, afraid of your master. hahaha

Reliance only stated that they don't sell anything to Venezuela from its USA subsidiary. But that does not stop Reliance from selling via Indian company. Reliance still sells Venezuela the diluent needed.

Yah, that's just one part of the story. Check out about them planning to stop buying Venezuelan crude. Officially Venezuela is not under oil sanctions yet, but Indians are already shivering

When there is a special interest in monitoring Iran sanctions, USA and Arabs will be monitoring the ships. It is easy to monitor as Iran is just next doors of Arabs. It is important to track all ships, not just tracker based ones as coast guards also have to ensure that terrorist boats don't come from sea and cause harm.

I am asking you since 2 days ago, HOW DO YOU TRACK? WHAT TECHNOLOGY? You think radars can identify each and every ship with their AIS tracker switch off? You think spy sats lock onto a target 24 hours? They have revisit periods, they can't function 24 hours tracking a single ship genius.

China may be buying in black market or via Russia but definitely not like what @Han Patriot claims to be showing its might as super power, defying sanctions

Hey you are the SUPAPOWA, we are just a sovereign country. =)