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The problem is not CCP, it's not a matter of trusting or distrusting CCP. Democracy is not the holy grail because it does not work everywhere. If CCP is being replaced by Democracy how would you know if that make lives better for everyone? You cannot compare US population with a 1.4 billion developing country even when you are discussing about government system. The Chinese government does stand for the people, it listened after the student protest back in 89, it reformed and keeps reforming to this day. The so called student massacre is just a made up propaganda by the West, it should not let that incident shape your view of CCP because we see you have an open minded character.

You're right, and I'm probably over-analyzing this. We never know what is going to happen, no matter the system, so might as well enjoy the ride while it lasts. I hope Xi is successful in reforming and cleaning up the system so that the prosperity will continue.

Tienanmen square affected you of what?

The massacre never happened.


But I still keep dislike to CCP because of their damage to Chinese civilization.

I know what I saw on live TV, but I'm not here to argue Tiananmen, which was always a tangential point to my main thesis. Anyway, I think we've exhausted the topic.
 
China’s High-Income Hopes by Zhang Jun - Project Syndicate


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ZHANG JUN
Zhang Jun is Professor of Economics and Director of the China Center for Economic Studies at Fudan University, Shanghai.

JUL 30, 2014
China’s High-Income Hopes
SHANGHAI – It is widely agreed that economic development means more than GDP growth. As China is now learning, one does not guarantee the other. Unless China’s leaders upgrade the country’s growth strategy to stimulate technological progress and structural transformation, high-income status will continue to elude the world’s second-largest economy and most populous country.

To be sure, China’s growth strategy – powered by investment in infrastructure, a massive increase in low-cost manufacturing exports, and technology transfers – has led to some structural change. As labor and capital moved from low-productivity sectors and regions to high-productivity activities, resource allocation became more efficient, real wages rose, and the economic structure was upgraded.

But the growth strategies that lift a poor country to middle-income levels cannot be counted upon to propel it to high-income status. Indeed, there is no shortage of countries whose leaders have failed to recognize their strategies’ constraints and provide enough incentives to encourage the emergence of a new one, causing their economies to stagnate and leaving them stuck in the so-called “middle-income trap.”

Perhaps the most notable exceptions to this rule have been in East Asia, where four economies – South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore – responded to external crises and challenges by shifting their growth strategies. For China, whose growth model has so far resembled that used by these economies before they attained middle-income status, a similar shift is urgently needed.

As the late Yale economist Gustav Ranis observed nearly 20 years ago, the key to successful and sustainable development is “avoiding the encrustation of ideas.” For Chinese policymakers, this means recognizing the need to abandon some of the fundamental ideas that underpinned the economy’s past growth, before they become so firmly encrusted that they jeopardize the country’s development prospects.

The first problem is China’s enduring dependence on exports. In the early stages of economic development, almost all growth strategies boil down to trade strategies. But China’s export-led growth model has limits – and the country is reaching them. Unless change comes soon, the foreign-exchange regime and capital controls on which the model relies will become too deeply entrenched, and the window of opportunity for adjustment will be missed.

Another risk is that China’s leaders continue to delay efforts to expand the services sector – including finance, insurance, wholesale and retail trade, and logistics – in the hope that the economy can continue to depend on manufacturing. Given how difficult it can be to gain support for such efforts, especially compared to policies aimed at boosting manufacturing, liberalization and expansion of the services sector will require a strong commitment from China’s government. Here, Japan’s failure in opening up its services sector – which impeded its ability to adapt its economic structure to its declining demographic dividend – can provide much-needed motivation.

The final idea at risk of blocking further progress is that political transformation would undermine social order. One of the East Asian economies’ major lessons for developing countries is that economic development leads to institutional transformation, not the other way around.

In Taiwan and South Korea, for example, authoritarian governments after World War II compensated for the weakness of the rule of law by creating transitional institutional arrangements to facilitate GDP growth. In this sense, China has a significant advantage. Countries with weak government capacity have rarely managed to achieve high-income status.

But, as the description of these arrangements as “transitional” suggests, they cannot last indefinitely. After 35 years of dependence on such arrangements, China must embrace the rule of law and establish a reliable, independent judicial system capable of facilitating the liberalization of the services sector, protecting intellectual-property rights, and underpinning a competitive market-based system.

In short, the biggest risk to China’s continued development is not a crisis, but the failure of its political leaders and intellectual elites to recognize the need to transform a growth strategy that has proved successful so far. In fact, to the extent that a crisis could do more good than harm, warnings that the rapid credit expansion of recent years could trigger a debt crisis, or that the real-estate sector is on the verge of collapse, may not be as worrying as many believe.

Ideally, no such crisis would be needed. In this scenario, China’s economic slowdown since 2008, which could be viewed as China’s first modern growth crisis, would be sufficient to force China’s leaders to shift their focus from supporting double-digit annual GDP increases to restructuring the economy.

In fact, a consensus already appears to be emerging concerning the need to reduce China’s dependence on exports, expand trade in services, attract more foreign investment to its services sector, and accelerate the liberalization of exchange rates, interest rates, and cross-border capital flows – exemplified in the establishment of the Shanghai Pilot Free-Trade Zone last year. And, following the Third Plenum of the Chinese Communist Party’s 18th Central Committee last November, China’s leaders declared their commitment to allowing the market to play a greater role in shaping economic outcomes.

These are undoubtedly steps in the right direction. The question is whether China’s leaders will follow through on their declarations before it is too late.

Zhang Jun
explains what China must do to avoid the so-called middle-income trap.

- Project Syndicate



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explains what China must do to avoid the so-called middle-income trap.

- Project Syndicate
 
HONG KONG — The Chinese government issued proposals on Wednesday to break down barriers that a nationwide household registration system has long imposed between rural and urban residents and among regions, reinforcing inequality, breeding discontent and hampering economic growth.

Yet even as officials promoted easier urbanization and the goal of permanently settling another 100 million rural people in towns and cities by 2020, they said that changes to the system — which links many government entitlements to a person’s official residence, even if that person has long since moved away — must be gradual and must protect big cities like Beijing.

“This reform of the household registration system will be more decisive, vigorous, broad-ranging and substantive than it’s ever been,” Huang Ming, a vice minister of public security, said at a televised news conference in Beijing where officials explained the proposals set out in a document released Wednesday.

But Mr. Huang later added a caveat that displayed the caution accompanying the promises of change. “At the same time, however, specific policies have to be tailored to the practical circumstances of each city,” he said.

Changing China’s household registration rules was one of the main planks of reform promised by President Xi Jinping at a Communist Party meeting in November, and it was reiterated in plans for more vigorous urbanization issued this year. Now Mr. Xi’s test will be achieving that promise, city by city, despite qualms and resistance from local officials and many long-term urban residents.

“I think there’s more hope of substantive change this time,” said Lu Yilong, aprofessor at Renmin University in Beijing who studies household registration divisions and their effects. “This is more a coordinated, top-down reform, unlike in the past when local governments had more room to set their own rules. There have been changes already, and now we need a more systematic approach.”

The barriers in China’s system of household registration, or hukou, date to Mao’s era. In the late 1950s, the system was instituted to keep famished peasants from pouring into cities. The policies later calcified into caste-like barriers that still often tie citizens’ education, welfare and housing opportunities to their official residence, even if they have moved far away from that place to find a livelihood. The restrictions hinder permanent migration between many urban and rural areas, and among regions and cities, such as Shanghai and Beijing.

“The main problem now is not the rural population moving to a local city, that’s quite easy,” said Ren Xinghui, a researcher for the Transition Institute, a privately funded organization in Beijing, who campaigns against educational discrimination directed against children from the countryside. “The main problem is migration across provinces and cities, and the controls imposed by the big cities against cross-region migration. That’s the key to hukou reform.”

Despite market forces that have transformed China’s economy, many of those barriers persist. Nowadays, about 54 percent of the population lives long-term in towns and cities. But only 36 percent of the Chinese people are counted as urban residents under the registration rules, according to government statistics. Under a plan issued in March, the government wants the long-term urban population to reach 60 percent of the total by 2020, and to increase the number with urban household status to 45 percent.

The divisions have become a source of discontent, and sometimes protest — when, for example, children from the countryside or from another city cannot enroll in a local school or take the university entrance exam where they live.

Mr. Xi and, particularly, Prime Minister Li Keqiang have argued that faster urbanization should become an engine of economic growth in the coming decades. Already, 174 million of China’s 1.3 billion people are rural migrants working away from their hometowns, Yang Zhiming, a labor and social welfare official, said at the news conference. Many economists say the barriers deter consumption by migrant workers, who are afraid to spend more of their savings.

The government document released on Wednesday brought together commitments, some already announced, to steadily and selectively lift some of these barriers. Some cities have already made such changes, including formally erasing the division between urban and rural registration for local residents. But experts have said such changes do not mean much unless welfare, housing and other policies are also changed to overcome persistent inequalities.

In small cities with urban populations of up to one million, people with steady jobs and housing who meet requirements for welfare payments will be allowed to register as local residents. Similar rules will apply to larger cities, with stricter limits.

But the proposals say that for the biggest cities, with urban populations of five million or more, the number of newcomers must be stringently controlled, and a points system will be used to ration household registration opportunities.

The government also said, as it has before, that it will try to ease barriers that deny places in schools, health care, family planning and other public services to residents who do not have local household registration papers. Many city governments have resisted such changes, and urban residents also fear the erosion of their privileges.

“A major reason why people want household registration in a city is for their children’s education,” said Professor Lu of Renmin University. “The value in a hukou is mostly in education and health care resources, and cities want to limit who gets those resources.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/w...china-moves-to-change-registration-rules.html
 
Wan Long, who runs the world’s biggest pork supplier, will become a billionaire when his company WH Group Ltd. (288) completes an initial public offering in Hong Kong.

WH Group is set to raise at least $2.05 billion, based on data in its IPO prospectus. The company received enough orders for its sale of 2.57 billion shares at HK$6.20 each, people with knowledge of the matter said.

Wan owns 9.1 percent of the Luohe, China-based meat packer through two holding companies, Sure Pass and Rise Grand. The stake is valued at more than $1 billion, based on data in the IPO prospectus.

Born in 1940, Wan joined WH Group’s predecessor Luohe Cold Storage in 1968, a decade after the state-owned company was founded in central China’s Henan province. He became the head of the factory in 1984, according to its prospectus.

The company is raising money to repay part of a $4 billion loan that funded its purchase of Smithfield Foods Inc., the biggest Chinese acquisition of a U.S. firm. WH Group revived the share sale this month, after scrapping plans to raise as much as $5.3 billion in April.

Fund managers placed orders for at least double the amount of stock available to them, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the information is private. Individual investors subscribed for more than 55 times the number of shares in that portion, which accounted for 5 percent of the offering, the people said.

The share sale would value WH Group at $11.4 billion, about 11.5 times its estimated 2014 profit, the people said. Benny Liu, a Hong Kong-based external spokesman for WH Group, declined to comment on the report.

BOC International Holdings Ltd. and Morgan Stanley are arranging the offering, according to the prospectus.
 
http://online.wsj.com/articles/imf-...beijing-speeds-up-economic-reforms-1406768402

IMFs annual report warns that Chinese growth could plummet to 3.5% by 2020 if the pace of economic reforms is not sped up.

Good find, @F-22Raptor . Some interesting nuggets from the article:

"The IMF urged Beijing to"promptly" carry out financial reform and exchange-rate liberalization and to make a number of fiscal changes within two years, including taxing real estate. The IMF now expects China to phase in such changes over five years, though there is a possibility that the changes would be delayed further or not enacted."

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"The IMF argued that China should sharply reduce its target for growth to between 6.5% and 7% in 2015, from 7.5% this year. De-emphasizing growth would give China a chance to work out its toughest problems, the IMF said, including rapidly growing debt and a rapidly contracting real-estate market. "A web of vulnerabilities exist across key sectors of the economy," the IMF review said. China's central bank didn't respond to request for comment on the IMF proposal.

"China's so-called total social financing—the broadest official measure of domestic debt—increased by 73% of GDP over the past five years, the IMF estimates. Looking at 43 countries over the past 50 years, there were only four similar bursts of credit growth—and all four times the booms were followed by banking crises within three years, the IMF said. The IMF didn't identify the other countries."

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"In another economic matter, the IMF said that China's currency remained "moderately undervalued," which it defined as about 5% to 10% below a level "consistent with fundamentals." China disputed the assessment, the IMF report said, arguing that the yuan was "close to equilibrium," meaning the currency didn't have much more to rise, if at all. Mr. Zhang faulted the IMF's assessment for failing to account for the impact of monetary policies in advanced nations on global financial flows—code words for saying that China's exchange rate was being buffeted by bond purchase programs by central banks in the U.S., Japan and elsewhere."

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This will be an interesting two years, during which all questions will be answered and the seriousness of Xi will be revealed.

I'm disappointed that you quoted this, if you quoted Gordon Chang we had 0 growth for a while and crash 10 years ago, why wait for 2020?

If the IMF is considered by China to be such a sub-standard organization that it deserves such scorn, why is China concerned about who controls it?
 
Well that's some sobering news. Then, i wish the Chinese Leadership the best of luck to tackle the issue(s) on hand.


Good find, @F-22Raptor . Some interesting nuggets from the article:

"The IMF urged Beijing to"promptly" carry out financial reform and exchange-rate liberalization and to make a number of fiscal changes within two years, including taxing real estate. The IMF now expects China to phase in such changes over five years, though there is a possibility that the changes would be delayed further or not enacted."

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"The IMF argued that China should sharply reduce its target for growth to between 6.5% and 7% in 2015, from 7.5% this year. De-emphasizing growth would give China a chance to work out its toughest problems, the IMF said, including rapidly growing debt and a rapidly contracting real-estate market. "A web of vulnerabilities exist across key sectors of the economy," the IMF review said. China's central bank didn't respond to request for comment on the IMF proposal.

"China's so-called total social financing—the broadest official measure of domestic debt—increased by 73% of GDP over the past five years, the IMF estimates. Looking at 43 countries over the past 50 years, there were only four similar bursts of credit growth—and all four times the booms were followed by banking crises within three years, the IMF said. The IMF didn't identify the other countries."

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"In another economic matter, the IMF said that China's currency remained "moderately undervalued," which it defined as about 5% to 10% below a level "consistent with fundamentals." China disputed the assessment, the IMF report said, arguing that the yuan was "close to equilibrium," meaning the currency didn't have much more to rise, if at all. Mr. Zhang faulted the IMF's assessment for failing to account for the impact of monetary policies in advanced nations on global financial flows—code words for saying that China's exchange rate was being buffeted by bond purchase programs by central banks in the U.S., Japan and elsewhere."

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This will be an interesting two years, during which all questions will be answered and the seriousness of Xi will be revealed.



If the IMF is considered by China to be such a sub-standard organization that it deserves such scorn, why is China concerned about who controls it?

A close eye should be kept on Chinas economy. Reform has proven to be stubborn to date...
 
If the IMF is considered by China to be such a sub-standard organization that it deserves such scorn, why is China concerned about who controls it?

Sub standard? No, bias? Probably, just because we are not a democracy doesn't mean we are not reforming, have you seen the new moves by Xi? I mean the government doesn't just stare at the wall all day.

As to why China is concerned, China isn't. But you driving a Ferrari does nothing for me, it's really me driving one that makes me happy. IMF can be ran by Hitler for all we care.


I'm just really tired of these articles, I mean I can write it now, I have read it so much. It's always the same, you think the WSJ would at least write something new, even if it's the same view but different points.
 
The level of internal audit in more totalitarian states are, indeed, wanting. Let's take the situation that led to the demise of the Soviet Union as case basis. The level of unmitigated corruption was awing. China's recent initiative to tackle this problem should be applauded, but we should discourse on the issue(s) that remain.

As to why China is concerned, China isn't. But you driving a Ferrari does nothing for me, it's really me driving one that makes me happy. IMF can be ran by Hitler for all we care.

The purpose of internal auditing is to give a transparent analyses of systems , the problems in said systems, the impediments to solution(s), as well as the solution(s) needed to be implemented. One factor that has led to the unfortunate bust of many a corporations have been the poor internal control. Feasibility studies may not be pleasant to hear, but they are helpful for organizational reshuffling / reorientation in the long term.

Thanks.
 
Sub standard? No, bias? Probably, just because we are not a democracy doesn't mean we are not reforming, have you seen the new moves by Xi? I mean the government doesn't just stare at the wall all day.

As to why China is concerned, China isn't. But you driving a Ferrari does nothing for me, it's really me driving one that makes me happy. IMF can be ran by Hitler for all we care.


I'm just really tired of these articles, I mean I can write it now, I have read it so much. It's always the same, you think the WSJ would at least write something new, even if it's the same view but different points.

I understand your fatigue on this, to be sure. But just to clarify, the WSJ is just relaying the IMF report, so your irritation should be directed at the IMF. My previous comment was meant to address two issues: 1) if China doesn't care about the IMF, why pay attention to this report? 2) If China doesn't care about the IMF, why is it setting up a competitor to the IMF?

I think we both know the answers to these questions, since it's the same answer. It's also the reason why China is reforming. We agree that Xi isn't standing still, but the point of all of these articles is that time is running out. Xi is doing well, but he must continue to be aggressive. I don't see anything wrong with such a statement.

Finally, I consider these kinds of articles to be constructive, because they focus on the specifics. It's easy to call for "reform," but what does that mean, exactly? This article provides the details. In that spirit, I would be very happy if you were to post similar criticism of the US economy in the Americas section from a Chinese perspective, as sometimes the discussion here in the US becomes too introspective. It's good to have an outsider's opinion.
 
These are undoubtedly steps in the right direction. The question is whether China’s leaders will follow through on their declarations before it is too late.

Poignant. Then, let us hope that the Leadership have under their employ -- Western educated and experienced economists and business / financial analysts. And to take heed their recommendation(s).
 
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