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@Truth Finder
another good thread from you.i know that India is very rich and developed,so in your opinion,in the real world how many times is India's GDP of China's?

 

[ChinaToday]

@Truth Finder
another good thread from you.i know that India is very rich and developed,so in your opinion,in the real world how many times is India's GDP of China's?

Don't take truthfinder seriously is my advice, treat most of his posts as a joke is the best way

 

[armchairPrivate]

I have no doubt the Chinese have two sets of books, or may be three or more. Let just say there are two for now.

One set for for government internal use, for setting economic policy.

The other set is for Casino customers, i.e. commodity futures buyers, stock market players, currency traders, option betters, etc. You bet at your own risk. The house (China) always wins.

As for China, does it matter what the number are? The reality on the ground is for everybody to see. You decide yourself.

 

[Truth Finder]

Personal attack, post reported.
It is worthless to argue with uneducated guy like you. Get a life, kid.

I am scared.

Don't take truthfinder seriously is my advice, treat most of his posts as a joke is the best way

Truth is very hard to digest.
Gandhi said- THEY FIRST IGNORE YOU, THEN RIDICULE YOU, THEN FIGHT WITH YOU AND FINALLY YOU WIN. THIS IS THE STRENGTH OF TRUTH.

 

[armchairPrivate]

^^^

You look ridiculous with that shade.

 

[jetti]

Simple fudging by china as follows:
CPC instructions all the numbers are the yuan equivalent. but put $ symbol in front.

 

[Sanchez]

Why do Indians always feel so bitter and jealous when Chinese economy is getting bigger and bigger....? because they have less toilets...imo

 

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Here you go...

How China Fudges Its Numbers - China Real Time Report - WSJ

we are doing the investigations not by voodoo american spies+jounalists combos or some indian cheerleaders
there needs to be corrections after faults have been found

 

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Fitch says China credit bubble unprecedented in modern world history

The agency said the scale of credit was so extreme that the country would find it very hard to grow its way out of the excesses as in past episodes, implying tougher times ahead.

http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/10123507/Fitch-says-China-credit-bubble-unprecedented-in-modern-world-history.html
PLEASR READ THE WHOLE REPORT

IDIOT.

I think we have discussed this report which related to Fitch's downgrading of China's economic outlook

It was a repeated posting from you

The answer was if Fitch was so worried as spelt out in the article why they did not downgrade China more!

 

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JUST LOOK AT THESE BIZARRE FIGURES OF CHINESE GDP. IN CHINA 9>10 EVERY PROVINCE HAS BATTER GROWTH RATE THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE

the totalling of China's GDP is not a simple adding up of GDP of each individual province
Get some education!
what an ignorant cheerleader!

 

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AVIC attending the 50th Paris Air Show
2013-06-18 15:24 Author：Prince Source:CANNEWS

AVIC attending the 50th Paris Air Show

枭龙战斗机，翼下挂载有反舰导弹、制导吊舱、中距空空导弹、格斗空空导弹等多种武器
Xiaolong fighter wing mounted anti-ship missiles, guided pods, medium range air to air missiles, combat air missiles and other weapons

L15教练机，可见翼下挂载的1000公斤激光制导炸弹和副油箱
L15 trainer, visible under the wing mounted 1000 kg laser-guided bombs and fuel tanks

新舟700涡桨支线客机
MA 700 turboprop passenger airplane

运12F通用/支线涡桨飞机
Yun 12F Universal / regional turboprop aircraft

AC-312通用直升机
AC-312 utility helicopters

翼龙多用途无人机
Yilong multirole UAV

运-8C中型运输机
Y-8 mid sized cargo transport plane

pix courtesy：guancha


CANNEWS - On June 17, 2013, the 50th International Paris Air Show was held at the Le Bourget Airport near Paris.

The site of the air show saw no shortage of Chinese elements, among which AVIC brought many models in the main exhibition hall such as FC-1 “Fighter China 1” (JF-17 Thunder) single and double seat fighters each, L-15 "Falcon" advanced training plane, pterosaurs multipurpose UAV, Y-8C transport plane, Y-12F general/ regional turboprop aircraft, MA60 and MA700 turboprop aircrafts, AC312 4-ton helicopter, and civil avionics cockpit. In particular, the five-star flag fluttering above the AVIC VIP room is more attractive.(Prince)






AVIC seeks more co-op at Paris Air Show
2013-06-18 08:07XinhuaWeb Editor: qindexing
AVIC seeks more co-op at Paris Air Show - Headlines, features, photo and videos from ecns.cn|china|news|chinanews|ecns|cns

People visit the 50th International Paris Air Show at the Le Bourget airport in Paris, France, June 17, 2013. The Paris Air Show runs from June 17 to 23.[Photo / Xinhua]


With the theme "Merging into global aviation industry chain," the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) will stage an outstanding show at 2013 Paris Air Show between June 17 and 23 in Paris, and expand its strategic cooperation with international partners.

During the Paris show, AVIC will highlight its key exports and development in cutting-edge technologies, and feature achievements gained by China's aviation sector in terms of technological innovations as well as the globalization drive, said the company.

With a booth of up to 267 square meters, AVIC categorizes its exhibits at this year's show in three fields: military aviation, civil aviation and airborne devices, displaying fighter jets, training aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicle, transport aircraft, regional airliner, civil helicopters, general aviation products and avionics.

The company will present to visitors up to 10 models of aircraft and aviation products, including models of the FC-1 Fierce Dragon fighter jet, the L-15 Falcon advanced trainer aircraft, the Wing Loong multipurpose UAV, the Y-8C and Y-12F airlifters, the MA-60 and MA-700 regional airliners, the AC312 helicopter, and avionic systems of civil aircraft.

In addition, AVIC executives will hold nearly 20 signing ceremonies and business meetings during the air show, making full use of the platform to enhance its dialogue and exchanges with partners, promoting strategic cooperation between AVIC and partners, accelerating the development of important projects, and implementing its strategy that aims to build AVIC an active and strong player in the global aviation industry.

Created in 1909, the Paris Air Show is the world largest, most reputed and oldest aviation exhibition. The 2013 Paris Air Show opens Monday at Le Bourget, near Paris, in celebration to its 50th anniversary.

The biennial event attracts 2,113 leading players of the global aviation industry from 45 countries and 150 aircraft will be displayed on the show.

The competition for wide-body jet orders between two giant aircraft manufacture rivals, American Boeing and France's Airbus, will highlight the upcoming Paris Air Show.

Apart from AVIC, 11 Chinese companies participate this year's Paris Air Show, such as Commercial Aircraft Cooperation of China (COMAC), China Great Wall Industry Cooperation, to demonstrate the latest results of China's aviation industry in technological innovation and enhance the overall integration into the world aviation industry chain.

 

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巴黎航展多个潜在客户咨询采购双座枭龙战机
新闻中心-中国网 news.china.com.cn　　时间： 2013-06-24　　发表评论>>
　　

在今年的巴黎航展上，最大的遗憾当算是美国空军的缺席。自今年3月自动减赤机制启动后，美国国防部迫于预算削减的压力，被迫取消了诸多非作战任务性的活动，其中就包括放弃参加巴黎航展。当然，美国的缺席对长期以来风头一直被压制的俄罗斯来讲可谓天大的好消息，而坐镇本土的欧洲制造商也乐见其成。

亮相巴黎航展的双座版枭龙战斗机模型


　　毫无疑问，首次飞出国门的俄罗斯苏霍伊公司苏-35战斗机(“侧卫”E)成为了本届巴黎航展当之无愧的明星。这也是继俄罗斯一架苏-27战斗机在1999年的巴黎航展上失事坠毁后，俄罗斯军机首次出现在巴黎上空。航展开幕的前一天，凭借两台土星117S全向矢量推力发动机提供的强大动力，苏-35战斗机就在其热身式的飞行表演中向公众展示了其出色的高速机动性能和低速操纵性能。

　　苏-35之所以如此卖力地表演，借机向世界证明俄罗斯仍然有着完备的先进战斗机研制体系和研制能力之外，尽快找到海外买家才是最主要的目标。

　　当然，机动性能只是苏-35整体性能的冰山一角，该机还拥有出色的大载荷、大航程作战能力。目前苏-35已正式进入俄罗斯空军服役，其作战航程超过3600千米(挂载副油箱可以达到近5000千&#31859，拥有12个外挂点，作战载荷能力达到8000千克。

　　在苏-35战斗机上，整合了俄罗斯当前最为先进的航电系统。该机当前装备了提赫米洛夫研究院研制的Irbis-E型被动相控阵雷达，该雷达能够同时跟作探测跟踪30个目标，并对其中的8个优先目标进行攻击。此外，该机还装备了OLS-35型红外搜索与跟踪系统，以及Khibiny-M型电子战系统。出色的航电系统以及雷达火控系统，配上强大空空武器系统，包括R-77、R-73空空导弹等，即使西方最先进的战斗机也会对苏-35心生畏惧。

　　尽管如此，苏-35并非苏-27系列的终极型号，它在一定成都上担任着技术验证机的角色，其所用的许多技术在验证成熟之后，将用于T-50 PAK FA第五代战斗机上。

　　除了苏-35战斗机外，俄罗斯参展的卡-52武装直升机也是未来军用直升机市场的强力竞争者。据俄罗斯国防产品出口公司(Rosoboronexport)透露，他们正在就卡-52武装直升机的出口与几个独联体国家进行谈判，预计不久将会获得采购订单。独联体国家是传统的俄罗斯武器采购客户，由于历史和地缘等原因，他们对俄罗斯武器颇为信赖，对于卡-52这样的先进武器系统也有切实的需求。

　　得益于VK-2500发动机的高推重比，卡-52在高空高温环境下仍然具有出色的操纵性能，这使其能够满足除独联体成员外更多客户的需求，包括来自亚洲、拉美的客户。俄罗斯国防产品出口公司表示，卡莫夫公司可以根据客户的需求，为该直升机整合来自俄罗斯或欧洲，以及客户自产的机载系统。本次航展上进行飞行表演的卡-52直升机，就安装了法国萨基姆(Sagem)公司研制的目标探测/跟踪系统。目前，卡-52已经完成了所有的性能测试开始在俄罗斯空军服役，至今已有3个航空团装备了该直升机。

　　作为连续6届参展的常客，中航工业在本届航展上推出了多种主打外贸军用机型，包括“枭龙”战斗机的单座、双座型，以及L15高级教练机和“翼龙”多用途无人机等，以更为自信的态度参与世界军贸市场的竞争。

　　在中航工业推出的多种军用机型中，以“枭龙”双座型最受关注。作为中巴联合研制的具备第三代战斗机综合作战效能的轻型战斗机，“枭龙”单座型已经批量装备巴基斯坦空军并形成战斗力，另外还有多个潜在客户正在就采购该机进行咨询，在这个时机推出双座型可以为正当其时。“枭龙”双座型一方面可以担负飞行员的培训任务，另一方面将使飞机执行多种作战任务成为可能，包括执行对地对面攻击，另外双座型飞机在战场上可以充当空中指挥机的角色。



Paris Air Show more potential customers to consult purchase 2-seater fighter Xiaolong FC-1 / J-17 Thunder
News - China Network news.china.com.cn time: 2013-06-24

In this year's Paris Air Show, the biggest regret when regarded as the absence of the U.S. Air Force. Since March this year, automatic deficit reduction mechanism starts, the U.S. Department of Defense budget cuts forced by the pressure, was forced to cancel a number of activities in non-combat missions, including to give up at the Paris Air Show. Of course, the United States absent limelight has been suppressed for a long time, Russia can be described in terms of great news, and sits at the local European manufacturers are happy to see.

Undoubtedly, the first flying abroad Russian Sukhoi Su-35 fighter aircraft ("Flanker" E) has become the star of the Paris Air Show deserved. This is following a Russian Su-27 fighter in the 1999 Paris Air Show crashed, the Russian military aircraft first appeared in the Paris sky. Airshow day before the opening, with two omnidirectional vectored thrust Saturn 117S engines provided a powerful driving force, Su-35 fighters in its warm-up style flight performances to the public display of its excellent high-speed and low-speed maneuverability maneuverability.

Su-35 is so hard to show, took the opportunity to show the world that Russia still has a complete development system and the development of advanced fighter aircraft capabilities, find overseas buyers as soon as possible is the main goal.

Of course, the motor performance of the overall performance of the Su-35 is just tip of the iceberg, it also has an excellent large load, a large range combat capability. Su-35 has now officially entered the Russian Air Force, the operational range of over 3,600 km (mounted fuel tank can reach nearly 5,000 kilometers), has 12 hardpoints, combat load capacity of 8000 kg.

In the Su-35 fighter, the integration of Russia's current most advanced avionics systems. The aircraft currently equipped 提赫米洛夫 Research Institute of Irbis-E passive phased array radar, the radar can simultaneously track with 30 goals for the detection, and one of eight priority target attacking. In addition, the machine is also equipped with OLS-35 infrared search and track system, and the Khibiny-M electronic warfare systems. Excellent avionics and radar fire control system, coupled with a powerful air to air weapons systems, including the R-77, R-73 air to air missiles, etc., even if the West's most advanced fighter Su-35 will also feel fear.

Nevertheless, the Su-35 Su-27 series is not the ultimate model, it acted in a certain Chengdu role of technology demonstrator, many of the techniques they use in the verification mature, will be used for T-50 PAK FA fifth-generation fighter on.

In addition to the Su-35 fighter planes, Russian Ka-52 helicopter gunships exhibitors future military helicopter market is strong competitor. According to the Russian defense export company (Rosoboronexport) revealed that they are on the card 52 helicopters and several CIS countries export negotiations, expected soon will receive purchase orders. CIS is a traditional Russian weapons procurement customers, due to historical and geographical reasons, they are quite trust the Russian weapons, -52 for the card so advanced weapons systems also have practical needs.
Thanks VK-2500 engine high thrust to weight ratio, Ka-52 high temperature environment at high altitude still has excellent handling characteristics, which enable them to meet more customers in addition to outside the CIS member needs, including from Asia, Latin America customers. Russian defense export company said Kamov company can according to customer demand, for helicopters from Russia or European integration, and customer self-produced airborne systems.

The air show flight performance of the Ka-52 helicopter, on the installation of the French Sagem (Sagem) company developed target detection / tracking system. At present, the Ka-52 has completed all performance tests began in the Russian Air Force, has been three aviation regiment equipped with the helicopter.

As a frequent visitor to the exhibition for six consecutive sessions, the aircraft industry at this air show to launch a variety of main foreign military models, including the "Fierce Dragon" fighter single-seat, two-seater, and the L15 advanced trainer and the "pterodactyl" multipurpose unmanned aerial vehicles, in order to be more confident attitude to participate in world arms market competition.

In the aircraft industry introduced a variety of military models, the "Fierce Dragon" two-seater most attention. China and Pakistan have jointly developed a third-generation fighter combat effectiveness of integrated light fighter, "Fierce Dragon" single-seat has quantities of equipment and the formation of Pakistan Air Force combat, in addition to several potential customers for the purchase of the aircraft is being consulted, in this time to launch two-seater can be the right time. "Fierce Dragon" two-seater pilot training one can take on the task, on the other hand will allow aircraft to perform a variety of combat missions as possible, including the implementation of ground opposite the attack, another two-seater aircraft on the battlefield can act as airborne command aircraft role.

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China cheered for adding two world heritage sites
English.news.cn 2013-06-24 20:31:54
China cheered for adding two world heritage sites - Xinhua | English.news.cn

云南红河哈尼梯田
Red River Hani Terrace Rice Fields，Yunnan

天山 新疆 Tian Shan Xinjiang





PHNOM PENH, June 24 (Xinhua) -- Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister and Chairman of the 37th session of the UNESCO's World Heritage Committee Sok An hailed China on Monday for having two new properties inscribed on the World Heritage List.

The plenary session of the World Heritage Committee decided to inscribe China's Xinjiang Tianshan natural property and Cultural Landscape of Honghe Hani Rice Terraces on the World Heritage List on Friday and Saturday respectively.

Sok An lauded China for paying particular attention to protect and preserve heritage sites.

"Through my different visits, I notice that the Chinese government has given high consideration to preserve both world heritage and national heritage sites,"he told a press conference.

He underlined that China is the 2nd largest owner of world heritage sites with 45 on the World Heritage List, next only to Italy that has 49 on the List.

"But in terms of preservation, I highly appreciate China's efforts in preserving those sites," he said. "I feel that the Chinese Government uses culture and heritage as a means to build up the country."

"The inscriptions truly reflect another model role of China in protecting and preserving its exceptional natural beauty and cultural value," Ek Tha, a spokesman for the 37th session of the World Heritage Committee, told Xinhua.

The 37th session of the World Heritage Committee ended its consideration of adding new sites to the World Heritage List on Sunday.

The session had inscribed 17 other natural and cultural sites around the globe on the prestigious list, bringing the total number of the World Heritage sites to 981, according to a UNESCO' s press statement.

The 21-member committee also added six World Heritage sites in Syria to the List of World Heritage in Danger due to the country's civil war that caused heavy damage to the sites.

In addition, it placed the World Heritage site of East Rennell in Solomon Islands on the List of World Heritage in Danger due to logging that is affecting the ecosystem of the site, while the World Heritage site of Bam and its Cultural Landscape in Iran, struck by a major earthquake, were removed from the List of World Heritage in Danger.

According to Sok An, Qatar will host the 38th session of the World Heritage Committee next year.

 

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[Truth Finder]

the totalling of China's GDP is not a simple adding up of GDP of each individual province
Get some education!
what an ignorant cheerleader!

Please enlighten me on this subject.
Please tell me what is the definition of average.
Average of 10+10+10= 8