China Disputes British Sovereignty Over Falkland Islands; Rattles Both The UK, US With ‘Historic Deal’ With Argentina

[Wergeland]

Falklands already did decide and in a referendum they voted to stay with UK

the people who had issues had to answer to the Royal Navy

you can ask them what happened in 1982

Yes they did decide and their choice should be respected.

But the native americans or aborigines werent given that choice when they were plundered and genocided.

Lets face it, in reality nobody cares about polls, no country care about any others than themselves. If you were a argentine you simply would see falklandians as illegal aliens who happen to have protection of its mother vessel.

I am all for democratic vote but dont pretend like its a mantra you live according to. Because you dont. The British Empire is a witness to that. Even today you occupy faraway territory. British army has bombed and invaded Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya since the turn of the millenium, without any legitimacy in any poll or whatsoever.

Why dont colonial nations have the guts to actually be honest and say that they know what they did was wrong but they killed and raped foreign nations anyway because that made them feel superior.

 

[UKBengali]

If you were a argentine you simply would see falklandians as illegal aliens who happen to have protection of its mother vessel.

One little tidbit you forgot and that is nearly all Argentines are descended from colonialists from Spain and Italy.

Falklanders are just as "alien" to South America as most Argentines are.

 

[retaxis]

Imagine if China gave Argentina nukes lol

 

[Han Patriot]

Imagine if China gave Argentina nukes lol

Wow, then the britards would not dare to do a nuke threat.

 

[beijingwalker]

Imagine if China gave Argentina nukes lol

This is why China will build a 8 billion USD nuclear plant right besides Falklands islands


China inks $8 bln nuclear power plant deal in Argentina

China inks $8 bln nuclear power plant deal in Argentina

State-owned China National Nuclear Corp (CNNC) has signed a contract in Argentina to build the $8 billion Atucha III nuclear power plant using China's Hualong One technology, reviving a deal that had been stalled for years.

www.reuters.com

 

[Apollon]

You I mean West ( USA/EU) looted and destroyed so many countries of the world since the world war 2 , you should consider yourself KILLER OF HUMANITY shame on you dude

Why only since WW II. I think that is an insult. Look how much our Alexander the Great did. Far before WW II we destroyed and looted.

Jokes aside, its called machiavellism. Whatever it takes to do good for our countries has to be done. Its that simple.

Why a Greek of all things is calling Argentina a sh**hole is beyond me. It would of course make more sense if youre a greek-born American or UK citizen or somethin like that.

I agree that Falk Lands should decide themselves, but question remains; were the native americans, aztec, inca and mayans given a chance for poll? Will they be given chance today just like the Falk Lands.

Should Hwaiians get to choose if they want independence or not? What about North Cyprus inhabitants or Catalunians or Basque.

Because Argentina is a shithole. Its that simple, with clownish leadership, mass poverty and chaos.

The inly natives on Falklands were penguins the people that live there now are the omly human population that was ever established there.

The rest of your bla bla shows you have no knowledge.

Mexico is an independend nation and so is Peru. Guatemala is independend as well.

As i said, if you would be a Falklander you would also not want two switch from developed world to bongo bongo shithole.

 

[KAL-EL]

Imagine if China gave Argentina nukes lol

Imagine if people didn't live in a PDF fantasy world.

 

[Chak Bamu]

I find this thread quite pointless.

In Pakistan's context it means zero. Sure, plenty of people will pay lip service but no one would do a thing. So this would remain a non-issue for a long long time. One set of colonists were replaced by another - so what? Its just a damn piece of rock in middle of nowhere, with hundreds of miles of ocean on every side.

If anything, the expatriate Pakistani population in UK will tend to bend Pakistan's view towards UK's stance. No surprises there.

JF-17 sale in limited numbers would be discomfiting to UK, but its nothing that UK can not handle. Argentines can keep talking & nothing will change.

 

[SaadH]

You I mean West ( USA/EU) looted and destroyed so many countries of the world since the world war 2 , you should consider yourself KILLER OF HUMANITY shame on you dude

US/EU record of destroying whole continents prior to WW2 is even worse.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Jokes aside, its called machiavellism. Whatever it takes to do good for our countries has to be done. Its that simple.

You have a lame justification, so for the development of your countries you have to destroy other countries what a lame justification you have lol

 

[Wergeland]

One little tidbit you forgot and that is nearly all Argentines are descended from colonialists from Spain and Italy.

Falklanders are just as "alien" to South America as most Argentines are.

Partly true. There are still large pockets of indiginous population. You have mestizos and those between mestizos and Spanish/German/Italian. The point is Spain, Italy or Germany, no longer governs Argentina. It has self rule and can control its own destiny.

 

[retaxis]

Imagine if people didn't live in a PDF fantasy world.

China gave North Korea and Pakistan nukes. China can give anyone nukes that they want and that scares you sh1tless.

 

[UKBengali]

I find this thread quite pointless.

In Pakistan's context it means zero. Sure, plenty of people will pay lip service but no one would do a thing. So this would remain a non-issue for a long long time. One set of colonists were replaced by another - so what? Its just a damn piece of rock in middle of nowhere, with hundreds of miles of ocean on every side.

If anything, the expatriate Pakistani population in UK will tend to bend Pakistan's view towards UK's stance. No surprises there.

JF-17 sale in limited numbers would be discomfiting to UK, but its nothing that UK can not handle. Argentines can keep talking & nothing will change.

Say, even if the Argentines went on a 10 year military buildup and ended up with 150 JF-17 Block 3s at the end.

Will that embolden them to try to invade the Falklands again?

Not when the UK has couple of these equipped with dozens of F-35Bs each onboard:

This time the UK is likely to go on a "punishment" mission destroying Argentine military and economic infrastructure on the Argentine mainland, after kicking any Argentine forces off the Falklands that may have been able to land.

We need to remember that the Falklands have facilities to take dozens of fighters and thousands of troops at short notice and the Argentines cannot land thousands of troops safely without using ships that take 1-2 days to sail to the islands.

UK forces are equipped with both fixed MRSAMs and shoulder-launched manpads and so transport aircraft carrying troops will be shot down with ease.

Argentina lost its only chance to regain the Falklands in 1982 and they cannot get that again in any of our lifetimes.

 

[UKBengali]

Partly true. There are still large pockets of indiginous population. You have mestizos and those between mestizos and Spanish/German/Italian. The point is Spain, Italy or Germany, no longer governs Argentina. It has self rule and can control its own destiny.

Even taking this into account, there was no indigenous settlement on the Falklands ever and so the land was never claimed by the Red Indians. Just being 600km off the coast is not a valid reason to be able to claim the islands.

This is a straight colonial fight and the tougher side won fair and square.

Argentines should act dignified and accept it as they can never change this, as the UK is major military power with a powerful Navy that their whole military could not defeat.

 

[Apollon]

You have a lame justification, so for the development of your countries you have to destroy other countries what a lame justification you have lol

Its how mankind works since formation of first human states