China criticises Japan over anti-missile system--Another CPC FART Bomb.

[Wholegrain]

I wonder why down syndrome patients look like people of a particular nation!

China selects its enemies from the weakest section of its neighborhood. China chose Japan, Philippines and Vietnam as its enemies since these countries are innocent, non nuclear, weaker than China and have no intention to invade China.

China threatens to strike Japan while it is not Japan but India which has nuclear armed China killer missiles ready to launch, still occupying Ladakh, NEFA, Sikkim, Bhutan etc, invaded China during the Boxer rebellion, had fun with Chinese women in China but is still considered by China as its spiritual lord. All propaganda aside, this is the fact.

Why does China consider India as its spiritual master despite the fact that India will again invade China but at the same time considers Japan as its enemy which will never fight China?

Can you really figure out what exactly goes in the mind of a down syndrome patient?

From Tokio Through Manchuria with the Japanese - Louis Livingston Seaman - Google Books

In January, 1900, during the Boxer campaign (and the Hunghutzes were all Boxers in those days) I chanced to be on the Great Wall of China at Shan-HaiKwan, when a party of five sikhs, with two coolies and a cart, went through a gateway on a foraging expedition for wood. Shortly after one of the coolies rushed back, so frightened he could hardly articulate, and reported that a party of mounted Hung-hutzes had swooped down on the sikhs, who had carelessly neglected to take their arms, and had carried them off and stolen their ponies. The coolies had escaped by hiding in a near-by nullah.
It was " boots and saddles," and in less time than one can write it, the Royal Bengal Lancers, Beluchis, and Gourkas were swarming over the hills in a vain hunt for their comrades and the Boxers. But they were late. Several hours after, they came upon the scene of torture. All was over. There remained only the mutilated remains of their companions and the inhuman instrument that had accomplished its deadly work.
The death instrument was a sort of iron cage, about eight feet high, made of rods fastened to a small ring at the base, resembling somewhat the steel frame of an umbrella on an enlarged scale. The rods were closed round the victim much as they are round the handle of a closed umbrella, and a rudely constructed nut or screw at the top forced them tightly together. In this infernal device the unfortunate sikhs had been forced, one after another, and as the screw was tightened and the flesh of the victim protruded between the bars, these fiends had sliced it off with their swords until the end came, and it came quickly.

I'll be back... I need to take a break from lunatics like this.

 

[Akasa]

Being that China is currently arming itself to the teeth, does it really have any right to be upset? Especially being that this system is defensive in nature. Japan (like China) has every right to defend itself. What am I missing here?

In retrospect, with its Navy right at China's doorstep, does the US really have the right to protest to China whenever the PLA tests a new weapon or increases its budget?

Right! A real fart bomb from the CPC! What else can one expect? They want Japan to take the exclusive permission of China for installing a radar in their own territory against North Korea??!!! Jeeez!

I think these guys have finally lost it.

Definition of Megalomania: Megalomania is a psycho pathological disorder characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence. Megalomania is characterized by an inflated sense of self-esteem and overestimation by persons of their powers and beliefs. Historically it was used as an old name for narcissistic personality disorder.

Nuff said!

If this was a "fart" bomb then Japan and the US are the masters at it. They were the ones protesting every single time the PLA increased her military budget, tested a piece of equipment, carried out a training exercise, or performed a patrol.

 

[Akasa]

The bigger question is why aren't we building missile defence systems like the US?
And why do we have a crazy no-first-use nuclear policy?
Will we not use nukes even if some country uses their conventional weapons to destroy our nuclear arsenal?

China is building a missile defense system comprising of the KT-series interceptors as well as future SM-3-like missiles.

I wonder why down syndrome patients look like people of a particular nation!

China selects its enemies from the weakest section of its neighborhood. China chose Japan, Philippines and Vietnam as its enemies since these countries are innocent, non nuclear, weaker than China and have no intention to invade China.

China threatens to strike Japan while it is not Japan but India which has nuclear armed China killer missiles ready to launch, still occupying Ladakh, NEFA, Sikkim, Bhutan etc, invaded China during the Boxer rebellion, had fun with Chinese women in China but is still considered by China as its spiritual lord. All propaganda aside, this is the fact.

Why does China consider India as its spiritual master despite the fact that India will again invade China but at the same time considers Japan as its enemy which will never fight China?

Can you really figure out what exactly goes in the mind of a down syndrome patient?

Why not look into a mirror and tell everyone?

 

[KAL-EL]

In retrospect, with its Navy right at China's doorstep, does the US really have the right to protest to China whenever the PLA tests a new weapon or increases its budget?

Well I can't speak for entire US, but as a US citizen, it doesn't bother me if China tests weapons or increases its budget. China has every right to a defense. Just as I believe any other country (including Japan) also has that very same right.

 

[xunzi]

well,atleast you accept it is a disputed territory,not "China's Heavenly Rights"..thanx for that.but now lets see the perception..you think its Chinese territory.by the same perspective,Japan think its theirs..so,they're not thinking that your Fly By's are in international airspace but near or inside their own airspace..

and I'm not comparing Yasukuni shrink with India Gate..but both are made for same perception,honoring the martyrs(don't give me War criminal BS cause then this discussion will drag a little longer.all the powers performed war crimes,even China.You might not have known,nor it is widely discussed,but mass looting and pillaging, summary execution, and torture of POWs and Chinese civilians believed to have been collaborating with Imperial Japan – as well as mass rape within occupied settlements have been performed).

few of the atrocities...

in 1937 near Shanghai, the killing, torture and assault of Japanese POWs and Chinese civilians accused of collaboration, were recorded in photographs taken by Swiss businessman Tom Simmen. (In 1996, Simmen's son released the pictures, showing Nationalist Chinese soldiers committing summary executions by decapitation and shooting, as well as public torture.)

the Tungchow Mutiny of August 1937; Chinese soldiers recruited by Japan mutinied and switched sides in Tōngzhōu, Beijing, before attacking Japanese civilians and killing 280.

Nationalist troops in Hubei Province, during May 1943, ordered whole towns to evacuate and then "plundered" them; any civilians who refused and/or were unable to leave, were killed.

no one is saint,just saying..

I repeat, our aircraft flight in international airspace.

I repeat again, we are the victim of World War II. Everything we did can be considered a reactionary action. What we committed to the Japanese is minuscule to the magnitude of what the Japanese did to us. Do you ******* UNDERSTAND this simple invader vs defender logic? In addition, we did not glorified the KMT soldiers crime, if any. Get this fact straight before I hear you open your mouth.

That would be awfully difficult to do -- not consider the geopolitics when buying foreign sourced weapons.

The notion is so damn impossible for all sides as to be ludicrous just for entertaining it to one's self, let alone making self look foolish by saying it in public. Trade is already a powerful geopolitical tool to either gain an ally or to alienate an adversary. And you are saying that weapons can be purchased with no such?

I cannot discuss things based on speculation, pure conjecture, or future policy changed. As I have repeated, our military buildup is to prevent outsiders from intervening in our domestic issues which is defensive by nature. A2/AD strategy was design specifically for that reason.

Is this some sort of historical 'just cause' and moral reasoning for China to act aggressively towards neighbors?


Yasukini Shrine is NOT:

- a cemetery
- state owned
- state managed

Internment of SOULS, not bodies, are entirely up to private individuals and that has been going on before WW II. You want to make a statement of protest to the symbolism of visits by the Japanese Prime Minister? Stop all trades with Japan. Blockade the Japanese islands. Lodge protests at the UN. Rile up the Chinese citizenry.

In China:

- Destroy all Japanese products.
- Round up all Japanese citizens.
- Confiscate all Japanese owned interests.

Until you do these, it will seems clear to all that money trumps symbolism.

Aggressively towards neighbors? How do you define as being aggressive? Please ******* explain this to me.

We will not do anything to the Japanese in peace time. But the Yasukuni Shrine will be one of the biggest reason that give us the moral justification to seek revenge in time of war. Mark my words on that.

 

[GR!FF!N]

I repeat, our aircraft flight in international airspace.

I repeat again, we are the victim of World War II. Everything we did can be considered a reactionary action. What we committed to the Japanese is minuscule to the magnitude of what the Japanese did to us. Do you ******* UNDERSTAND this simple invader vs defender logic? In addition, we did not glorified the KMT soldiers crime, if any. Get this fact straight before I hear you open your mouth.

Nope...Japan accused that China violated Japan's Airspace..and it is publicized widely..

Japan deploys fighter jets after China violates airspace over Senkakus - The Japan Daily Press


even if that aircraft was not in Japanese Airspace(difference of perception as China think Senkaku is theirs),it was in chinese Airspace..it was not in International Airspace.some fly by s didn't violate it,while others did..

and I know very well about invader vs defender logic.and I know very well from what the atrocities started.you might think the atrocities started only during WW II..you should then take a look at First Sino-Japan war..it was started a long time back.

 

[gambit]

I cannot discuss things based on speculation, pure conjecture, or future policy changed. As I have repeated, our military buildup is to prevent outsiders from intervening in our domestic issues which is defensive by nature. A2/AD strategy was design specifically for that reason.

But you have when you declared that a ballistic missile defense system qualified as an offensive capability by way of nullifying someone else's offensive capability, thereby making one who was defensive now an aggressor, or at least a potential aggressor.

Your argument is just simply ridiculous: China is not an aggressor but everyone else is.

Aggressively towards neighbors? How do you define as being aggressive? Please ******* explain this to me.

Then how can you (re)defined a defensive capability as an offensive one? You gave yourself the latitude to interpret anything as you see fit but denied others the same.

We will not do anything to the Japanese in peace time. But the Yasukuni Shrine will be one of the biggest reason that give us the moral justification to seek revenge in time of war. Mark my words on that.

Riiiight...But if the Japanese successfully field a missile defense system, China will see that as 'just cause' for war.

 

[xunzi]

Nope...Japan accused that China violated Japan's Airspace..and it is publicized widely..

Japan deploys fighter jets after China violates airspace over Senkakus - The Japan Daily Press


even if that aircraft was not in Japanese Airspace(difference of perception as China think Senkaku is theirs),it was in chinese Airspace..it was not in International Airspace.some fly by s didn't violate it,while others did..

and I know very well about invader vs defender logic.and I know very well from what the atrocities started.you might think the atrocities started only during WW II..you should then take a look at First Sino-Japan war..it was started a long time back.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LATEST ACCUSATION OF THE DRONE, YOU MORON!@
As for flying over Diaoyu, it is our right to do so.

What is your point? Again, I repeat my words to you. We are the victim of Japanese invasion.

But you have when you declared that a ballistic missile defense system qualified as an offensive capability by way of nullifying someone else's offensive capability, thereby making one who was defensive now an aggressor, or at least a potential aggressor.

Your argument is just simply ridiculous: China is not an aggressor but everyone else is.

It is different. Japan's ballistic missile defense system is a US's guide system to project US's power the ability to intervene in our domestic issues by neutralizing our 2nd strike capability. Because the US possesses much greater offensive weapon, it is a threat to our ability to defend. As I have said before, we build weapons with the main focus to stop the US from engaging in our domestic issue.

Then how can you (re)defined a defensive capability as an offensive one? You gave yourself the latitude to interpret anything as you see fit but denied others the same.

Once again, we look at things differently. Our perceived threat is mainly derived from the US of A. Because of this, any US's allies engage in US's missile system is an indirect threat to our ability to defend ourselves. Thus, the defense capability becomes the offense of the US's strategy.

Riiiight...But if the Japanese successfully field a missile defense system, China will see that as 'just cause' for war.

Again, the Japan is fielding a US's patriotic system which we criticized because of the indirect impact the US's offensive weapons have on our capabilities.

 

[gambit]

It is different. Japan's ballistic missile defense system is a US's guide system to project US's power the ability to intervene in our domestic issues by neutralizing our 2nd strike capability. Because the US possesses much greater offensive weapon, it is a threat to our ability to defend. As I have said before, we build weapons with the main focus to stop the US from engaging in our domestic issue.



Once again, we look at things differently. Our perceived threat is mainly derived from the US of A. Because of this, any US's allies engage in US's missile system is an indirect threat to our ability to defend ourselves. Thus, the defense capability becomes the offense of the US's strategy.


Again, the Japan is fielding a US's patriotic system which we criticized because of the indirect impact the US's offensive weapons have on our capabilities.

Your argument gets weirder and weirder...

Japan's ballistic missile defense system is to defend -- Japan?

Not US.

 

[HongWu]

Let's help them test it

 

[KAL-EL]

Let's help them test it

By all means, please do