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China cracks advanced microchip technology in blow to Western sanctions​

Huawei patents method of making ultra-small microchips closely guarded by the West

ByGareth Corfield
31 December 2022 • 10:43am

China has cracked a microchip design method previously mastered only by the West in a challenge that could undermine sanctions.

Patent filings show that Huawei has made advances on a crucial chip-making method, raising the prospect that the company could eventually start making some of the tiniest and most powerful microchips in-house.

Such a development would allow Beijing to circumvent Western sanctions. Washington, Brussels and London are all currently blocking access to advanced Western-made computer chips in China over fears the communist nation could develop new military capabilities beyond the resilience of Western armies.

Huawei’s patent application, filed in November but only revealed to the world public this month, describes a way to use ultraviolet light to etch the inner workings of a computer chip into a piece of silicon.

With so-called extremes Ultraviolet lithography (EUV) technology can be used to produce transistors that are only nanometers in size. The most powerful computer chips contain millions of transistors, and advances in miniaturization enable the creation of extremely powerful chips.

The highly specialized technology has so far only been cracked by the Dutch company ASML. The chip-making secrets of ASML, a €208 billion deal, are jealously guarded by both the company and the West.

Dutch Foreign Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher told the country’s parliament in November that ASML’s chip technology was a jewel in the country’s crown to be protected.

US trade sanctions imposed on China this summer specifically targeted EUV technology imports. According to Bloomberg, Dutch officials have been urged by the US to refuse export licenses to China.

The news that local champion Huawei has found a way to develop the chips itself is likely to raise alarms among Western officials.

Huawei did not respond to a request for comment.

EUV machines cost between $150 and $300 million each and are about the size of a London bus. Factories typically require between 9 and 18 machines, pushing the cost of new chip fabs well into the billions.

ASML’s microchip manufacturing machines are used by the world’s leading chipmakers such as Intel, Samsung and Taiwanese chip giant TSMC. In January 2022, Intel ordered five EUV machines to help equip a new chip fab.

Separately, Huawei said on Friday that it was “back to normal business” after two years of disruption sparked by US sanctions.

In a year-end message, Chairman Eric Xu said the company had emerged from “crisis mode,” saying, “US restrictions are now our new normal and we are returning to normal business operations.”

Former US President Donald Trump imposed sanctions on Huawei in 2019, including a ban on using Google’s Android mobile operating system, which Huawei’s consumer smartphone division relied on.

Other western nations followed with similar bans, including an order by then-Prime Minister Boris Johnson to remove Huawei equipment from key UK telecoms infrastructure in 2020.

Restrictions were imposed over concerns that Huawei could be forced to work with Beijing and offer backdoor access to security communications systems.

Sanctions caused Huawei’s global revenue to fall by a third in 2021, but Mr Xu said Huawei’s 2022 sales are on track to remain at around 636.9 billion yuan (£76.6 billion).

 
This would truly be the end of Western dominance.
 
I have said this before and I say it now.

Western (especially Neocon) attempts to halt China's research foray into high technology is rather pointless.

They should assist China and collaborate to forge ahead in specialization.

There are certain things the West specializes in and certain things China does. And vice versa.

Current attempt to halt technology transfers are an exercise in futility and will only harm the West more.
 
I have said this before and I say it now.

Western (especially Neocon) attempts to halt China's research foray into high technology is rather pointless.

They should assist China and collaborate to forge ahead in specialization.

There are certain things the West specializes in and certain things China does. And vice versa.

Current attempt to halt technology transfers are an exercise in futility and will only harm the West more.
Absolutely. The idiots in DC obviously have never heard of the phrase, keep your friends close but your enemies closer. By trying to contain China they are pushing a dragon into a corner. In the end, the west will lose any monopoly on tech they have.
 
I have said this before and I say it now.

Western (especially Neocon) attempts to halt China's research foray into high technology is rather pointless.

They should assist China and collaborate to forge ahead in specialization.

There are certain things the West specializes in and certain things China does. And vice versa.

Current attempt to halt technology transfers are an exercise in futility and will only harm the West more.

This was their strategy until mid 2010s.

The strategy of the west leading up to that era of time was to direct Chinese politics towards general neutrality with relatively cooperative diplomacy from the Chinese. Where China eventually leads up to becoming a western vassal state not too different to South Korea and Japan and eventually China's internal politics adapts to the pliable form of bullshit liberalism and lobbyism that the western elites prefer since that's how any and all powers can be easily controlled by some promise of monopoly money donations. How to achieve this though was in the soft carrot and stick approach. Leverage China's then dependence on western critical technologies (of which there were many more in the 1950s to 2000s period than post 2010) and China's dependence on western institutional framework in which the globalizing world operated under. Access to banking systems, invitation to WTO, ability to trade with western partners and so on.

The second tool then was the military one to enforce some form of cooperation from China re any desires to reunify China and end the Chinese Civil War by either peacefully or militarily creating the reunification of Taiwan island and the dissolution of the government there, ending one aspect of western influence into what is essentially inner China politics and a civilizational question.

They did not expect China's science and technology base to develop so well and translate so quickly and relatively efficiently into industrial returns and leadership within several fields these being telecommunications, computing, software even (shared among many players), shipbuilding, energy and energy storage technologies, materials tech (yes even this particularly new generations of metamaterials and superalloys even the latest and greatest composite materials and ceramics), military ones (e.g. hypersonic gliders, combined cycle engines and so on), with commensurate and even greater progress in the scientific basis (China accounting for some of the highest contributions in more recent years among certain general fields... see IP, citations, adjusted for quality rankings, top innovation cities and universities, Nature and Science rankings of institutions and regions etc etc).

Because XJP took over the power in the 2010s and initiated what the west considered a deviation from that controlled path where their previous strategic planning saw a China that at best could only specialize in few fields with critical dependence on western anythings, the west also shifted its strategy to immediately cut China off from everything critical. Estimating that it would devastate China's scientific and industrial basis. It tripped it up slightly and somewhat but honestly, the last remaining domain of critical dependence is chip fabrication and even in this field China has been able to mass produce 28nm on its own with low rate of production and inefficient means to make 14nm and even 7nm since 2022. Now these aren't enough to compete in the latest personal computers and flagship smartphones but for literally everything else from a fridge to car to satellite and HGV, it is more than enough, in fact 2010 China could supply all that using totally domestic fabrication equipment and processes.

The issue here is China announced it's 2025 initiative for weening itself off critical dependence areas, XJP got more """aggressive""" against the west by putting China on a path towards reduced to zero dependence on west and ANNOUNCED IT ALL PUBLICLY to the worry and concern of the west. That their pet will not cooperate and tread the path laid out by western elites.

Now this post 2010 China is a threat to western hegemony because it is going to be a separate non-western controlled major power that will be bidding and competing with the west for the world's resources. Previous to this, the west could print as much monopoly paper money as it pleases and buy up everything in the world from people to material and everything in between. Now it has to compete with China to bid for the price of talent and material resources.

The west first used the gun to take over the world's people and resources. After it became increasingly inappropriate to do it this way over time, they invented various layers of bullshittery to transfer the world to its pocket. Even NEC and Sumitomo and Nintendo etc etc etc are all still partly all western elite controlled and owned at the very end of the day a few pen to paper contact and everything can be turned to their pocket. China represents a threat to this "rule based order" hence a strategy to contain its ability to threaten it.

What China needs to do is secure itself and its means to prevent the west from totally gaining absolute control of all. The Global South will 100% remain in relative poverty for eternity (due to the fundamental economic problem and diminishing supply of energy resources and critical raw materials). I foresee that once China feels comfortable in its safeguarding of self, it will begin forging important Global South allies in coming decades so at the completion of this century, there are going to be multiple sources of challenges to western hegemony. The most promising contenders for this are the Arab world with their energy resources (convert that to monetary share of global resources and talent pool), Iran (similar reasons + exceptional intellectual abilities), Russia (landmass, intellectual capabilities, energy and material resources). Other players are firmly western controlled or dependent on for one reason or another. India's top talents contribute far more to western empires than they do for India itself as an example of why India is less a contender for a power group. It is considerably more ideologically enslaved by the west than even places like Hong Kong with similar histories of colonialism and ideologically dominated by the west for too long for the people to really have a decent chance of taking off those shackles.

But it's not all such an easy task. Today, China has to essentially try to nearly match the output of USA + western and northern Europe + South Korea + Japan in terms of general scientific basis output and industrial share. It is maybe now around overall about half of those combined at best measure but can nearly sort of do it all good enough or close enough and in certain small areas leading. This isn't good enough over long spans of time since the combined hegemonic west outpaces China alone. All those leading industrialized and wealthy nations all pay the leaders of the hegemonic west and it is all one giant umbrella. Then factor in that China overall loses more talent to working for the west than the west loses to China even if we factor in Chinese experts returning to China and eventually contributing to China and espionage efforts.

What then? I think China's strategic thinkers understand that what is required here is a hail Mary attempt at moonshot projects. The problem here is that the combined west + asian partners have more money, more people, are more developed and for longer, have more resources and access to resources, share everything essentially as it's all owned by the own and same so in terms of revolutionary things, they have advantages. I'm talking science fiction projects basically.

Yes China's trajectory is an upwards and quick paced one where major western components are more downwards, particularly western Europe, norther Europe, and Japan, even the USA is slightly downwards overall or straight lining. But overall it's still a real upward struggle for China. Yes China's science and engineering general top tier talent pool numbers are great and all while the west's are declining but as China's wealth increases, its ability to work the same as previously actually declines too unless appropriate and effective social changes somehow allow it to work as efficiently with fewer people and fewer people doing hard things like science and engineering.

If somehow the Global South organized well and cooperated with the mission of completing a path towards genuine multipolarity and basically take their slice of the pie (at the expense of the west of course since this is a finite pie), then there is only the hail Mary stuff that can potentially see China forge ahead to become a primary (single nation measures) superpower in time which may see current western vassals become increasingly neutral in terms of working against China. The balance at the moment shows that China has been relatively successful in keeping critical nations relatively neutral in stance. Major leverage pieces for China are the KSA group, Iran group, Russia and former CIS, Korean peninsular (keeping Japan and South Korea not aggressively anti-China or at least without serious action or escalation), and the remaining world of currently neutral to pro China nations in African, South America, and South East Asia.

Europe and North America doesn't actually have as much raw resources required for sustained development and living standards as currently enjoyed. Previously these were either stolen by force, colonized and extracted, or simply all bought up for cheap and for nothing considering USA prints money like nothing and exports inflation to every nation that requires reserves of USD and trade in USD. If this were to change, it would genuinely collapse the world order over months which would be the blink of an eye given the weight of China that would surely take advantage immediately and bolster its trade and alliances with an increasing number of nations. What those would be build on is nothing more than what the west gave but a higher degree of sovereignty for all those other nations because these are the gaps in which these deals differ. They are slight but they are still considerable for any smaller nation.
 
I think it can be very generally summed up in this way and this is generalizing a little too much in favor of and against the same.

China's current population is roughly 1,500 million (adjust for demographics of huge number of elderly, it is roughly a commensurate 1,200 million compared to combined west).

Combined Western and Northern Europe, Japan, USA, South Korea, Canada, Australia is roughly 1,020 million.

In 30 years time China's population given one child policy and reduced birth rates as a nation increases in wealth (and works longer hours) = 900 million

In 30 years time the western group's population = 1,200 to 1,500 million assuming similar rates of migration as today's.

In 30 years time, China's GDP per cap is going to be roughly equal to the western group given that today the majority of Chinese population are actually NOT working age, either below 21 or above 60 (roughly China's retirement age at the moment at least government pushes people to retire around that age depending on field and industry and based on family members experiences).

If general competitiveness and productivity is about the same, China has a slight advantage just in terms of useful population and productive population today despite having a lower fraction of per capita productivity. This increases over time but your population decreases over time compared to the west which is increasing with migration. Assuming migrants become similarly productive immediately since the west's migration laws are mostly based on skills and quite selective at least in Australia, USA, Canada rather than most European nations, in 30 years time China's advantage in population decreases even though other measures improve. The critical thing is what fraction are the first tier useful e.g. top tier engineers and research scientists at CAS and other top institutions etc not even considering the systemic stuff and institutional issues on both sides and all that, it is a very tight race.

What China can try and do is leverage the talents in other neutral states etc. For example, many, many western organizations make use of Indian talent with offices in India. China too. Huawei has offices in India, Xiaomi etc. Microsoft has offices in China etc etc. These Indian engineers and inventors discover and work for the organization. The west or China owns those stuff they develop. So Iran, Russia, South America, Arab world are not tapped by China at all. Much less so than China cooperates and makes use of Indian talent. Russia is used by the west. Boeing has/had research and development offices and facilities in Russia! prior to the war. Like it has contracted work to India, China, South Africa etc. That's how the modern world has functioned for a long time. Now the west wants a bit of a controlled decoupling and de-globalizing along their preferred lines. Everyone adapts and shifts towards their preferred lines and exercise any leverage they have. But China still has increasing ability (wealth) to tap into foreign talents. Building development centers here and there, hiring experts from all over the world. So far the west is the leader in tapping into foreign talent in foreign lands AND also making top tier talents into their citizens. China at the moment has less ability to attract foreign talents into China itself but this is actually increasing over time relative to the west's ability decreasing over time. But this is a decades long thing and changes in mindsets take even longer than the ground realities being set and established.

So point is that China is slowly building all those ingredients of success but it'll be decades before established and even more decades before mindsets change. But it is there and every monumental task is made of smaller increments of improvement done consistently over a very long time. What China has as backup is creating its internal mechanism for competing favourably. Even though it is today essentially 1200M (less productive and capable overall) vs 1000M (more productive and more capable overall) and in time 900M (China's equal productive and capable overall) vs 1200M (west's) in 30 or so years, the current era is needed to establish the patterns of what I mentioned with regards to partners, allies, critical stakeholders, and those invested in that long term vision of mutual prosperity for investments and a more multipolar world.

It can be said certainly that China has blindsighted many western elites and policy makers at least a little if not a lot. Perhaps the switched on ones have failed in making the picture clear. I mean plenty of western elites still comically underestimate China's abilities, where it really is at, how it actually works, how capable it actually is, and what it is already capable of. So their continues ignorance is perhaps the factor that can tip the scale in China's favor despite this being such a tight race.
 
This was their strategy until mid 2010s.

The strategy of the west leading up to that era of time was to direct Chinese politics towards general neutrality with relatively cooperative diplomacy from the Chinese. Where China eventually leads up to becoming a western vassal state not too different to South Korea and Japan and eventually China's internal politics adapts to the pliable form of bullshit liberalism and lobbyism that the western elites prefer since that's how any and all powers can be easily controlled by some promise of monopoly money donations. How to achieve this though was in the soft carrot and stick approach. Leverage China's then dependence on western critical technologies (of which there were many more in the 1950s to 2000s period than post 2010) and China's dependence on western institutional framework in which the globalizing world operated under. Access to banking systems, invitation to WTO, ability to trade with western partners and so on.

The second tool then was the military one to enforce some form of cooperation from China re any desires to reunify China and end the Chinese Civil War by either peacefully or militarily creating the reunification of Taiwan island and the dissolution of the government there, ending one aspect of western influence into what is essentially inner China politics and a civilizational question.

They did not expect China's science and technology base to develop so well and translate so quickly and relatively efficiently into industrial returns and leadership within several fields these being telecommunications, computing, software even (shared among many players), shipbuilding, energy and energy storage technologies, materials tech (yes even this particularly new generations of metamaterials and superalloys even the latest and greatest composite materials and ceramics), military ones (e.g. hypersonic gliders, combined cycle engines and so on), with commensurate and even greater progress in the scientific basis (China accounting for some of the highest contributions in more recent years among certain general fields... see IP, citations, adjusted for quality rankings, top innovation cities and universities, Nature and Science rankings of institutions and regions etc etc).

Because XJP took over the power in the 2010s and initiated what the west considered a deviation from that controlled path where their previous strategic planning saw a China that at best could only specialize in few fields with critical dependence on western anythings, the west also shifted its strategy to immediately cut China off from everything critical. Estimating that it would devastate China's scientific and industrial basis. It tripped it up slightly and somewhat but honestly, the last remaining domain of critical dependence is chip fabrication and even in this field China has been able to mass produce 28nm on its own with low rate of production and inefficient means to make 14nm and even 7nm since 2022. Now these aren't enough to compete in the latest personal computers and flagship smartphones but for literally everything else from a fridge to car to satellite and HGV, it is more than enough, in fact 2010 China could supply all that using totally domestic fabrication equipment and processes.

The issue here is China announced it's 2025 initiative for weening itself off critical dependence areas, XJP got more """aggressive""" against the west by putting China on a path towards reduced to zero dependence on west and ANNOUNCED IT ALL PUBLICLY to the worry and concern of the west. That their pet will not cooperate and tread the path laid out by western elites.

Now this post 2010 China is a threat to western hegemony because it is going to be a separate non-western controlled major power that will be bidding and competing with the west for the world's resources. Previous to this, the west could print as much monopoly paper money as it pleases and buy up everything in the world from people to material and everything in between. Now it has to compete with China to bid for the price of talent and material resources.

The west first used the gun to take over the world's people and resources. After it became increasingly inappropriate to do it this way over time, they invented various layers of bullshittery to transfer the world to its pocket. Even NEC and Sumitomo and Nintendo etc etc etc are all still partly all western elite controlled and owned at the very end of the day a few pen to paper contact and everything can be turned to their pocket. China represents a threat to this "rule based order" hence a strategy to contain its ability to threaten it.

What China needs to do is secure itself and its means to prevent the west from totally gaining absolute control of all. The Global South will 100% remain in relative poverty for eternity (due to the fundamental economic problem and diminishing supply of energy resources and critical raw materials). I foresee that once China feels comfortable in its safeguarding of self, it will begin forging important Global South allies in coming decades so at the completion of this century, there are going to be multiple sources of challenges to western hegemony. The most promising contenders for this are the Arab world with their energy resources (convert that to monetary share of global resources and talent pool), Iran (similar reasons + exceptional intellectual abilities), Russia (landmass, intellectual capabilities, energy and material resources). Other players are firmly western controlled or dependent on for one reason or another. India's top talents contribute far more to western empires than they do for India itself as an example of why India is less a contender for a power group. It is considerably more ideologically enslaved by the west than even places like Hong Kong with similar histories of colonialism and ideologically dominated by the west for too long for the people to really have a decent chance of taking off those shackles.

But it's not all such an easy task. Today, China has to essentially try to nearly match the output of USA + western and northern Europe + South Korea + Japan in terms of general scientific basis output and industrial share. It is maybe now around overall about half of those combined at best measure but can nearly sort of do it all good enough or close enough and in certain small areas leading. This isn't good enough over long spans of time since the combined hegemonic west outpaces China alone. All those leading industrialized and wealthy nations all pay the leaders of the hegemonic west and it is all one giant umbrella. Then factor in that China overall loses more talent to working for the west than the west loses to China even if we factor in Chinese experts returning to China and eventually contributing to China and espionage efforts.

What then? I think China's strategic thinkers understand that what is required here is a hail Mary attempt at moonshot projects. The problem here is that the combined west + asian partners have more money, more people, are more developed and for longer, have more resources and access to resources, share everything essentially as it's all owned by the own and same so in terms of revolutionary things, they have advantages. I'm talking science fiction projects basically.

Yes China's trajectory is an upwards and quick paced one where major western components are more downwards, particularly western Europe, norther Europe, and Japan, even the USA is slightly downwards overall or straight lining. But overall it's still a real upward struggle for China. Yes China's science and engineering general top tier talent pool numbers are great and all while the west's are declining but as China's wealth increases, its ability to work the same as previously actually declines too unless appropriate and effective social changes somehow allow it to work as efficiently with fewer people and fewer people doing hard things like science and engineering.

If somehow the Global South organized well and cooperated with the mission of completing a path towards genuine multipolarity and basically take their slice of the pie (at the expense of the west of course since this is a finite pie), then there is only the hail Mary stuff that can potentially see China forge ahead to become a primary (single nation measures) superpower in time which may see current western vassals become increasingly neutral in terms of working against China. The balance at the moment shows that China has been relatively successful in keeping critical nations relatively neutral in stance. Major leverage pieces for China are the KSA group, Iran group, Russia and former CIS, Korean peninsular (keeping Japan and South Korea not aggressively anti-China or at least without serious action or escalation), and the remaining world of currently neutral to pro China nations in African, South America, and South East Asia.

Europe and North America doesn't actually have as much raw resources required for sustained development and living standards as currently enjoyed. Previously these were either stolen by force, colonized and extracted, or simply all bought up for cheap and for nothing considering USA prints money like nothing and exports inflation to every nation that requires reserves of USD and trade in USD. If this were to change, it would genuinely collapse the world order over months which would be the blink of an eye given the weight of China that would surely take advantage immediately and bolster its trade and alliances with an increasing number of nations. What those would be build on is nothing more than what the west gave but a higher degree of sovereignty for all those other nations because these are the gaps in which these deals differ. They are slight but they are still considerable for any smaller nation.
Only one thing is that the US has been going all out to contain and blockade China's rise like setting fire on ant-China in nearly all important Chinese neighbours like Japan, Vietnam, Philipines and India since Obama's time in 2011 orchestrated by Obama and Hilary Clinton's pivot to Asia when Hu Jin Tao was the leader of China. Xi came to power in China in 2013, so you cant blame on Xi for taking a more proactive course, its just a self-defense response to US and later also EU containment and menace.
 
This was their strategy until mid 2010s.

The strategy of the west leading up to that era of time was to direct Chinese politics towards general neutrality with relatively cooperative diplomacy from the Chinese. Where China eventually leads up to becoming a western vassal state not too different to South Korea and Japan and eventually China's internal politics adapts to the pliable form of bullshit liberalism and lobbyism that the western elites prefer since that's how any and all powers can be easily controlled by some promise of monopoly money donations. How to achieve this though was in the soft carrot and stick approach. Leverage China's then dependence on western critical technologies (of which there were many more in the 1950s to 2000s period than post 2010) and China's dependence on western institutional framework in which the globalizing world operated under. Access to banking systems, invitation to WTO, ability to trade with western partners and so on.

The second tool then was the military one to enforce some form of cooperation from China re any desires to reunify China and end the Chinese Civil War by either peacefully or militarily creating the reunification of Taiwan island and the dissolution of the government there, ending one aspect of western influence into what is essentially inner China politics and a civilizational question.

They did not expect China's science and technology base to develop so well and translate so quickly and relatively efficiently into industrial returns and leadership within several fields these being telecommunications, computing, software even (shared among many players), shipbuilding, energy and energy storage technologies, materials tech (yes even this particularly new generations of metamaterials and superalloys even the latest and greatest composite materials and ceramics), military ones (e.g. hypersonic gliders, combined cycle engines and so on), with commensurate and even greater progress in the scientific basis (China accounting for some of the highest contributions in more recent years among certain general fields... see IP, citations, adjusted for quality rankings, top innovation cities and universities, Nature and Science rankings of institutions and regions etc etc).

Because XJP took over the power in the 2010s and initiated what the west considered a deviation from that controlled path where their previous strategic planning saw a China that at best could only specialize in few fields with critical dependence on western anythings, the west also shifted its strategy to immediately cut China off from everything critical. Estimating that it would devastate China's scientific and industrial basis. It tripped it up slightly and somewhat but honestly, the last remaining domain of critical dependence is chip fabrication and even in this field China has been able to mass produce 28nm on its own with low rate of production and inefficient means to make 14nm and even 7nm since 2022. Now these aren't enough to compete in the latest personal computers and flagship smartphones but for literally everything else from a fridge to car to satellite and HGV, it is more than enough, in fact 2010 China could supply all that using totally domestic fabrication equipment and processes.

The issue here is China announced it's 2025 initiative for weening itself off critical dependence areas, XJP got more """aggressive""" against the west by putting China on a path towards reduced to zero dependence on west and ANNOUNCED IT ALL PUBLICLY to the worry and concern of the west. That their pet will not cooperate and tread the path laid out by western elites.

Now this post 2010 China is a threat to western hegemony because it is going to be a separate non-western controlled major power that will be bidding and competing with the west for the world's resources. Previous to this, the west could print as much monopoly paper money as it pleases and buy up everything in the world from people to material and everything in between. Now it has to compete with China to bid for the price of talent and material resources.

The west first used the gun to take over the world's people and resources. After it became increasingly inappropriate to do it this way over time, they invented various layers of bullshittery to transfer the world to its pocket. Even NEC and Sumitomo and Nintendo etc etc etc are all still partly all western elite controlled and owned at the very end of the day a few pen to paper contact and everything can be turned to their pocket. China represents a threat to this "rule based order" hence a strategy to contain its ability to threaten it.

What China needs to do is secure itself and its means to prevent the west from totally gaining absolute control of all. The Global South will 100% remain in relative poverty for eternity (due to the fundamental economic problem and diminishing supply of energy resources and critical raw materials). I foresee that once China feels comfortable in its safeguarding of self, it will begin forging important Global South allies in coming decades so at the completion of this century, there are going to be multiple sources of challenges to western hegemony. The most promising contenders for this are the Arab world with their energy resources (convert that to monetary share of global resources and talent pool), Iran (similar reasons + exceptional intellectual abilities), Russia (landmass, intellectual capabilities, energy and material resources). Other players are firmly western controlled or dependent on for one reason or another. India's top talents contribute far more to western empires than they do for India itself as an example of why India is less a contender for a power group. It is considerably more ideologically enslaved by the west than even places like Hong Kong with similar histories of colonialism and ideologically dominated by the west for too long for the people to really have a decent chance of taking off those shackles.

But it's not all such an easy task. Today, China has to essentially try to nearly match the output of USA + western and northern Europe + South Korea + Japan in terms of general scientific basis output and industrial share. It is maybe now around overall about half of those combined at best measure but can nearly sort of do it all good enough or close enough and in certain small areas leading. This isn't good enough over long spans of time since the combined hegemonic west outpaces China alone. All those leading industrialized and wealthy nations all pay the leaders of the hegemonic west and it is all one giant umbrella. Then factor in that China overall loses more talent to working for the west than the west loses to China even if we factor in Chinese experts returning to China and eventually contributing to China and espionage efforts.

What then? I think China's strategic thinkers understand that what is required here is a hail Mary attempt at moonshot projects. The problem here is that the combined west + asian partners have more money, more people, are more developed and for longer, have more resources and access to resources, share everything essentially as it's all owned by the own and same so in terms of revolutionary things, they have advantages. I'm talking science fiction projects basically.

Yes China's trajectory is an upwards and quick paced one where major western components are more downwards, particularly western Europe, norther Europe, and Japan, even the USA is slightly downwards overall or straight lining. But overall it's still a real upward struggle for China. Yes China's science and engineering general top tier talent pool numbers are great and all while the west's are declining but as China's wealth increases, its ability to work the same as previously actually declines too unless appropriate and effective social changes somehow allow it to work as efficiently with fewer people and fewer people doing hard things like science and engineering.

If somehow the Global South organized well and cooperated with the mission of completing a path towards genuine multipolarity and basically take their slice of the pie (at the expense of the west of course since this is a finite pie), then there is only the hail Mary stuff that can potentially see China forge ahead to become a primary (single nation measures) superpower in time which may see current western vassals become increasingly neutral in terms of working against China. The balance at the moment shows that China has been relatively successful in keeping critical nations relatively neutral in stance. Major leverage pieces for China are the KSA group, Iran group, Russia and former CIS, Korean peninsular (keeping Japan and South Korea not aggressively anti-China or at least without serious action or escalation), and the remaining world of currently neutral to pro China nations in African, South America, and South East Asia.

Europe and North America doesn't actually have as much raw resources required for sustained development and living standards as currently enjoyed. Previously these were either stolen by force, colonized and extracted, or simply all bought up for cheap and for nothing considering USA prints money like nothing and exports inflation to every nation that requires reserves of USD and trade in USD. If this were to change, it would genuinely collapse the world order over months which would be the blink of an eye given the weight of China that would surely take advantage immediately and bolster its trade and alliances with an increasing number of nations. What those would be build on is nothing more than what the west gave but a higher degree of sovereignty for all those other nations because these are the gaps in which these deals differ. They are slight but they are still considerable for any smaller nation.

Wow ! Thanks for the detailed explanation. :-)

As it is close to midnight hours here to go into 2023, I will take time to study your post with the requisite care tomorrow and provide a respectful response.

Until then take care and Happy New Year to all and sundry - your near and dear ones.

May the new year lessen our sufferings and see new peace and prosperity for all.
 
Wow ! Thanks for the detailed explanation. :-)

As it is close to midnight hours here to go into 2023, I will take time to study your post with the requisite care tomorrow and provide a respectful response.

Until then take care and Happy New Year to all and sundry - your near and dear ones.

May the new year lessen our sufferings and see new peace and prosperity for all.

Cheers and thank you. Here's to a fairer more equitable world and future. One year and one step at a time even when things look dire and hopeless people will always have a sense of equality. Anyway my posts there were just over simplifications of the big picture changes in the west and China for the last ten years using snapshots of how things generally are.
 
This was their strategy until mid 2010s.

The strategy of the west leading up to that era of time was to direct Chinese politics towards general neutrality with relatively cooperative diplomacy from the Chinese. Where China eventually leads up to becoming a western vassal state not too different to South Korea and Japan and eventually China's internal politics adapts to the pliable form of bullshit liberalism and lobbyism that the western elites prefer since that's how any and all powers can be easily controlled by some promise of monopoly money donations. How to achieve this though was in the soft carrot and stick approach. Leverage China's then dependence on western critical technologies (of which there were many more in the 1950s to 2000s period than post 2010) and China's dependence on western institutional framework in which the globalizing world operated under. Access to banking systems, invitation to WTO, ability to trade with western partners and so on.

The second tool then was the military one to enforce some form of cooperation from China re any desires to reunify China and end the Chinese Civil War by either peacefully or militarily creating the reunification of Taiwan island and the dissolution of the government there, ending one aspect of western influence into what is essentially inner China politics and a civilizational question.

They did not expect China's science and technology base to develop so well and translate so quickly and relatively efficiently into industrial returns and leadership within several fields these being telecommunications, computing, software even (shared among many players), shipbuilding, energy and energy storage technologies, materials tech (yes even this particularly new generations of metamaterials and superalloys even the latest and greatest composite materials and ceramics), military ones (e.g. hypersonic gliders, combined cycle engines and so on), with commensurate and even greater progress in the scientific basis (China accounting for some of the highest contributions in more recent years among certain general fields... see IP, citations, adjusted for quality rankings, top innovation cities and universities, Nature and Science rankings of institutions and regions etc etc).

Because XJP took over the power in the 2010s and initiated what the west considered a deviation from that controlled path where their previous strategic planning saw a China that at best could only specialize in few fields with critical dependence on western anythings, the west also shifted its strategy to immediately cut China off from everything critical. Estimating that it would devastate China's scientific and industrial basis. It tripped it up slightly and somewhat but honestly, the last remaining domain of critical dependence is chip fabrication and even in this field China has been able to mass produce 28nm on its own with low rate of production and inefficient means to make 14nm and even 7nm since 2022. Now these aren't enough to compete in the latest personal computers and flagship smartphones but for literally everything else from a fridge to car to satellite and HGV, it is more than enough, in fact 2010 China could supply all that using totally domestic fabrication equipment and processes.

The issue here is China announced it's 2025 initiative for weening itself off critical dependence areas, XJP got more """aggressive""" against the west by putting China on a path towards reduced to zero dependence on west and ANNOUNCED IT ALL PUBLICLY to the worry and concern of the west. That their pet will not cooperate and tread the path laid out by western elites.

Now this post 2010 China is a threat to western hegemony because it is going to be a separate non-western controlled major power that will be bidding and competing with the west for the world's resources. Previous to this, the west could print as much monopoly paper money as it pleases and buy up everything in the world from people to material and everything in between. Now it has to compete with China to bid for the price of talent and material resources.

The west first used the gun to take over the world's people and resources. After it became increasingly inappropriate to do it this way over time, they invented various layers of bullshittery to transfer the world to its pocket. Even NEC and Sumitomo and Nintendo etc etc etc are all still partly all western elite controlled and owned at the very end of the day a few pen to paper contact and everything can be turned to their pocket. China represents a threat to this "rule based order" hence a strategy to contain its ability to threaten it.

What China needs to do is secure itself and its means to prevent the west from totally gaining absolute control of all. The Global South will 100% remain in relative poverty for eternity (due to the fundamental economic problem and diminishing supply of energy resources and critical raw materials). I foresee that once China feels comfortable in its safeguarding of self, it will begin forging important Global South allies in coming decades so at the completion of this century, there are going to be multiple sources of challenges to western hegemony. The most promising contenders for this are the Arab world with their energy resources (convert that to monetary share of global resources and talent pool), Iran (similar reasons + exceptional intellectual abilities), Russia (landmass, intellectual capabilities, energy and material resources). Other players are firmly western controlled or dependent on for one reason or another. India's top talents contribute far more to western empires than they do for India itself as an example of why India is less a contender for a power group. It is considerably more ideologically enslaved by the west than even places like Hong Kong with similar histories of colonialism and ideologically dominated by the west for too long for the people to really have a decent chance of taking off those shackles.

But it's not all such an easy task. Today, China has to essentially try to nearly match the output of USA + western and northern Europe + South Korea + Japan in terms of general scientific basis output and industrial share. It is maybe now around overall about half of those combined at best measure but can nearly sort of do it all good enough or close enough and in certain small areas leading. This isn't good enough over long spans of time since the combined hegemonic west outpaces China alone. All those leading industrialized and wealthy nations all pay the leaders of the hegemonic west and it is all one giant umbrella. Then factor in that China overall loses more talent to working for the west than the west loses to China even if we factor in Chinese experts returning to China and eventually contributing to China and espionage efforts.

What then? I think China's strategic thinkers understand that what is required here is a hail Mary attempt at moonshot projects. The problem here is that the combined west + asian partners have more money, more people, are more developed and for longer, have more resources and access to resources, share everything essentially as it's all owned by the own and same so in terms of revolutionary things, they have advantages. I'm talking science fiction projects basically.

Yes China's trajectory is an upwards and quick paced one where major western components are more downwards, particularly western Europe, norther Europe, and Japan, even the USA is slightly downwards overall or straight lining. But overall it's still a real upward struggle for China. Yes China's science and engineering general top tier talent pool numbers are great and all while the west's are declining but as China's wealth increases, its ability to work the same as previously actually declines too unless appropriate and effective social changes somehow allow it to work as efficiently with fewer people and fewer people doing hard things like science and engineering.

If somehow the Global South organized well and cooperated with the mission of completing a path towards genuine multipolarity and basically take their slice of the pie (at the expense of the west of course since this is a finite pie), then there is only the hail Mary stuff that can potentially see China forge ahead to become a primary (single nation measures) superpower in time which may see current western vassals become increasingly neutral in terms of working against China. The balance at the moment shows that China has been relatively successful in keeping critical nations relatively neutral in stance. Major leverage pieces for China are the KSA group, Iran group, Russia and former CIS, Korean peninsular (keeping Japan and South Korea not aggressively anti-China or at least without serious action or escalation), and the remaining world of currently neutral to pro China nations in African, South America, and South East Asia.

Europe and North America doesn't actually have as much raw resources required for sustained development and living standards as currently enjoyed. Previously these were either stolen by force, colonized and extracted, or simply all bought up for cheap and for nothing considering USA prints money like nothing and exports inflation to every nation that requires reserves of USD and trade in USD. If this were to change, it would genuinely collapse the world order over months which would be the blink of an eye given the weight of China that would surely take advantage immediately and bolster its trade and alliances with an increasing number of nations. What those would be build on is nothing more than what the west gave but a higher degree of sovereignty for all those other nations because these are the gaps in which these deals differ. They are slight but they are still considerable for any smaller nation.
Accurate analysis
 
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