China Civil Aviation, AVIC (MA600) & COMAC (ARJ21/C919/C929)

[Makarena]

I don't think sales will be a problem, Chinese market alone can absorb hundreds if not thousands of this plane in the next decade.

 

[saltyashell]

Dilemma . I would fly in a russian plane but never in a chinese built plane. Life is too short.

 

[MrSato1]

Dilemma . I would fly in a russian plane but never in a chinese built plane. Life is too short.

Yet chinese airline records are safter than russias.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[LKJ86]

https://m.weibo.cn/1229068373/4250804279579980

 

[Deino]

Any idea, when #03 will arrive?

 

[Su33KUB]

2018.4.15
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nice looking aircraft

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https://m.weibo.cn/1229068373/4250804279579980

nice shape

 

[Deino]

Hmm ??!!

http://atwonline.com/manufacturers/comac-grounds-c919-flight-test-aircraft-modify-prototypes

The Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC) has grounded the C919 flight-test aircraft for modifications, costing about three months in the flight-testing schedule.

The company has nonetheless restated a target to achieve certification in 2020. The two prototypes that have so far flown are having their tailplanes and flaps modified, according to two industry sources.

The work on the tail is specifically a response to delamination observed on the carbon-fiber reinforced plastic elevators, one of the sources said. The modifications to the flaps are related to strength, the source added.

Fuel tanks are also being modified, the other source said, adding that the aircraft have been kept on the ground since April and will probably stay there until July.

Changes to the first two prototypes will likely be applied to the other four flight-test C919s that COMAC is building. Modifying them could result in a further loss of flight-test opportunities.

CAAC said in March that C919 certification was targeted for 2020. Four months later, despite the loss of flight-testing time, COMAC has restated the 2020 target. A COMAC official referred to the 2020 target at a conference in Shanghai on June 14, Reuters reported. COMAC said in February it was aiming to make the first delivery of the C919 in 2021.

The C919, designed to seat 158 passengers in a two-class arrangement, is powered by the CFM Leap-1C engine.

The C919 prototypes have flown intermittently. The first aircraft, rolled out in November 2015, made its initial flight in May 2017, but did not fly again for 19 weeks. COMAC said in March that “normal modification work” caused the pause in flying.

The second C919 first flew in December 2017. In March 2018, it was undergoing modification and was slated to return to flight in April—just when the work on the latest changes began.

COMAC said in March that 23 C919 test flights had occurred,

The third C919 flight-test aircraft had been scheduled to fly this year; its current status is not known. The other three are expected to fly in 2019.

Bradley Perrett,

 

[JSCh]

航空航天港9ifly
今天C919客机102架进行了4月15日以来的首次试飞。从早上7:10开始，8:50落地。

Today 102 aircraft of the C919 airliner made its first test flight since April 15. Starting at 7:10 in the morning and landed 8:50.

鼎盛风清
快讯：中国商飞C919两架原型机今天上午分别在陕西西安阎良讲机场、上海浦东机场升空试飞。这是3月24日三个月以来，C919首次恢复试飞。

Newsflash: Two prototypes of COMAC's C919 were piloted at Xi'an Yanliang Airport and Shanghai Pudong Airport this morning. This is the first time the C919 has resumed its test flight since March 24th.

C919 101​

C919 102

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[LKJ86]

 

[samsara]

Hmm ??!!

http://atwonline.com/manufacturers/comac-grounds-c919-flight-test-aircraft-modify-prototypes

The Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC) has grounded the C919 flight-test aircraft for modifications, costing about three months in the flight-testing schedule.

The company has nonetheless restated a target to achieve certification in 2020. The two prototypes that have so far flown are having their tailplanes and flaps modified, according to two industry sources.

The work on the tail is specifically a response to delamination observed on the carbon-fiber reinforced plastic elevators, one of the sources said. The modifications to the flaps are related to strength, the source added.

Fuel tanks are also being modified, the other source said, adding that the aircraft have been kept on the ground since April and will probably stay there until July.

Changes to the first two prototypes will likely be applied to the other four flight-test C919s that COMAC is building. Modifying them could result in a further loss of flight-test opportunities.

CAAC said in March that C919 certification was targeted for 2020. Four months later, despite the loss of flight-testing time, COMAC has restated the 2020 target. A COMAC official referred to the 2020 target at a conference in Shanghai on June 14, Reuters reported. COMAC said in February it was aiming to make the first delivery of the C919 in 2021.

The C919, designed to seat 158 passengers in a two-class arrangement, is powered by the CFM Leap-1C engine.

The C919 prototypes have flown intermittently. The first aircraft, rolled out in November 2015, made its initial flight in May 2017, but did not fly again for 19 weeks. COMAC said in March that “normal modification work” caused the pause in flying.

The second C919 first flew in December 2017. In March 2018, it was undergoing modification and was slated to return to flight in April—just when the work on the latest changes began.

COMAC said in March that 23 C919 test flights had occurred,

The third C919 flight-test aircraft had been scheduled to fly this year; its current status is not known. The other three are expected to fly in 2019.

Bradley Perrett,

Reading this article I cannot help my self but asking this kind of question.

WHY the author simply ignored to mention or even elaborate that the COMAC cared so much about the aircraft safety, incl. the testing aircraft, that they simply opted to bear the COSTS, whatever they are... that the completion schedule and other COSTS are not everything but the sustainable Safety is the King here ??? He at least mentioned twice the COSTS matter in his relatively short writing, as if the decision to ground the testing aircraft and the accompanying modification decisions are not something wise or appropriate to do…

Such seemingly subtle or ignorable matter becomes esp. more interesting knowing how often those "sloppy Chinese qualities" labels are stamped by the many MSM and other established media upon the China's entities to belittle their achievements, and the media will go as far as nitpicking the cases to paint their verdicts, or varying their amplifying lenses at will to make the cases.

For me, as far as concerning COMAC Passenger Aircraft, the SAFETY matter is everything! Such highest safety level will grant the bright future to the aircraft... on the contrary for any serious foul thing to happen, moreover with fatality, it will ruin the level of confidence to the newcomer(!!) INFLICTING the very huge COSTS, amidst a tightly controlled duopoly industry. Needless to emphasis repeatedly but the Timetable even COSTS matter should never command the necessary Safety matters.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[JSCh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1010075179358146560

People's Daily,China‏ Verified account @PDChina
Two #C919 passenger planes, China’s first homegrown large passenger jet, completed their maiden test flights in Shanghai and Xi’an today, respectively, wrapping up stability and system tests.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[LKJ86]