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July 23, 2018 Topic: Security Region: Asia Blog Brand: The Buzz Tags: TaiwanMilitaryTechnologyWorldwarChinaPLAPLAN
China Can't Launch a Full-Scale Military Invasion of Taiwan (Yet)

But Taipei is not exactly in the clear. We explain.

by Dave Majumdar
The Taiwanese government is claiming that the People’s Republic of China would invade the island state if the United States withdrew its support for Taipei.

However, it is dubious that Beijing has the amphibious assault capacity or capability to conduct a successful sea-based invasion of Taiwan where a forcible entry is required. Beijing could potentially get around some of those challenges, but even then a successful invasion of Taiwan by Chinese mainland forces seems dubious at best.


“(If) the Chinese see the vulnerability of Taiwan, not getting US support, then they would be thinking about starting scenarios where they would be able to take Taiwan over," Taiwanese foreign minister Joseph Wu told CNN.


Wu’s statement comes on the heels of a Chinese live-fire drill in the Taiwan Straits, which is prompting Taipei to seek reassurances from its few allies—including the United States.

"We are trying to maximize our cooperation with like-minded countries, try to engage security cooperation with the US to prevent China from thinking that they can take Taiwan over just overnight," Wu said.


While Taipei may be increasingly worries, one of the factors that has traditionally prevented Beijing from forcibly retaking the island state by force is geography. As the Pentagon’s 2017 Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China report states, Beijing has traditionally had difficulty in projecting power across the 100 nautical mile gap across the Taiwan Straits—particularly if there was prospect of an American intervention. But Chinese capabilities have markedly improved over the course of the past decade and the People’s Liberation Army continues to make strides in capability.

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However, while the Chinese have made significant gains in capability , the Pentagon does not believe that the PLA has the capability to launch a full-scale invasion of Taiwan.

“Large-scale amphibious invasion is one of the most complicated and difficult military operations,” the Pentagon report on China notes.

“Success depends upon air and sea superiority, the rapid buildup and sustainment of supplies onshore, and uninterrupted support. An attempt to invade Taiwan would strain China’s armed forces and invite international intervention. These stresses, combined with China’s combat force attrition and the complexity of urban warfare and counterinsurgency (assuming a successful landing and breakout), make an amphibious invasion of Taiwan a significant political and military risk. Taiwan’s investments to harden infrastructure and strengthen defensive capabilities could also decrease China’s ability to achieve its objectives.”

The Pentagon does believe that a smaller and much more limited invasion could be feasible.


“The PLA is capable of accomplishing various amphibious operations short of a full-scale invasion of Taiwan,” the Pentagon report states.

“With few overt military preparations beyond routine training, China could launch an invasion of small Taiwan-held islands in the South China Sea such as Pratas or Itu Aba. A PLA invasion of a medium-sized, better-defended island such as Matsu or Jinmen iswithin China’s capabilities. Such an invasion would demonstrate military capability and political resolve while achieving tangible territorial gain and simultaneously showing some measure of restraint. However, this kind of operation involves significant, and possibly prohibitive, political risk because it could galvanize pro-independence sentiment on Taiwan and generate international opposition.”

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While a full-scale invasion of Taiwan is likely beyond the scope of current Chinese capabilities, the People’s Liberation Army could mount a naval blockade or conduct a more limited military campaign.

“PLA writings describe a Joint Blockade campaign in which China would employ kinetic blockades of maritime and air traffic, including a cut-off of Taiwan’s vital imports to force Taiwan’s capitulation,” the report states.

“According to these writings, large-scale missile strikes and, possibly, seizures of Taiwan’s offshore islands would accompany a Joint Blockade in an attempt to achieve a rapid Taiwan surrender, while at the same time posturing air and naval forces to conduct weeks or months of blockade operations if necessary.”

Another option for Beijing could be a limited military campaign that stopped short of PLA troops setting foot on Taiwanese soil.

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“China might use a variety of disruptive, punitive, or lethal military actions in a limited campaign against Taiwan, probably in conjunction with overt and clandestine economic and political activities,” the report notes.

“Such a campaign could include computer network or limited kinetic attacks against Taiwan’s political, military, and economic infrastructure to induce fear in Taiwan and to degrade the Taiwan population’s confidence in their leaders. Similarly, PLA special operations forces could infiltrate Taiwan and conduct attacks against infrastructure or leadership targets.”

A limited Chinese campaign might also take the form of a concerted air campaign.

“China could use missile attacks and precision air strikes against air defense systems, including air bases, radar sites, missiles, space assets, and communications facilities to degrade Taiwan’s defenses, neutralize Taiwan’s leadership, or break the Taiwan people’s resolve,” the report states.
 
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@peacefan Hang the flag of Netherlands, rumoring and smearing China in forum ,so many posts , you work hard ..... Westerners can conquer and rule the world, your work is very important ..... rumoring and smearing 、Fabricating history---- Western masterpieces .....
 
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@peacefan Hang the flag of Netherlands, rumoring and smearing China in forum ,so many posts , you work hard ..... Westerners can conquer and rule the world, your work is very important ..... rumoring and smearing 、Fabricating history---- Western masterpieces .....
it's not rumors and smearing if it's credible witness reports, dude.

and this activity by me is a direct result of provocations by your fellow Chinese posters.
see
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/keep...s-didnt-back-down.572280/page-2#post-10707045
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/falu...urdered-organ-harvested.572479/#post-10708539
 
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Preparing. Yet not ready to take on tiny Taiwan. Great Chinese military.
there is no concrete definition about the readiness. It is all about the trade-off between cost and benefit. if they think cost will grow faster than their improvement via preparation, they will launch the attack right away. For example, if US openly declares that they will interfere militarily.
 
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there is no concrete definition about the readiness. It is all about the trade-off between cost and benefit. if they think cost will grow faster than their improvement via preparation, they will launch the attack right away. For example, if US openly declares that they will interfere militarily.
I read somewhere that Chinese share market fell by some 19 pc because of trade war with US. Is it true?
 
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Chinese are capable of doing it, I doubt they would need to. The world is changing, Taiwan might have a different tone a few years from now.
 
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it's not rumors and smearing if it's credible witness reports, dude.

and this activity by me is a direct result of provocations by your fellow Chinese posters.
see
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/keep...s-didnt-back-down.572280/page-2#post-10707045
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/falu...urdered-organ-harvested.572479/#post-10708539
lol, you can continued , We don't care. You westerners happy to do this for hundreds of years ....Then you can happily declare war on China ....sure ,You haven't changed for hundreds of years ...Poor brainwashed westerners ...
If you have the time and kindness, learn more about your history of aggression and colonization .....It is important, of course, not to make that as glory, but as shame to learn .
I have no time for netherlands . i don't know why a western people have time for china's thing ... if you have time ,you should spend to improve your own country ... rumors and smearing other country is not a good being !!! western should learn this ....china's thing chinese judge and write , not your foreign . If you can write about the evils of your own country in your history books, that's the greatest progress .
 
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lol, you can continued , We don't care. You westerners happy to do this for hundreds of years ....Then you can happily declare war on China ....sure ,You haven't changed for hundreds of years ...Poor brainwashed westerners ...
If you have the time and kindness, learn more about your history of aggression and colonization .....It is important, of course, not to make that as glory, but as shame to learn .
I have no time for netherlands . i don't know why a western people have time for china's thing ... if you have time ,you should spend to improve your own country ... rumors and smearing other country is not a good being !!! western should learn this ....china's thing chinese judge and write , not your foreign . If you can write about the evils of your own country in your history books, that's the greatest progress .

@Two and @Beast (2 particularly foolish Chinese) started this by keeping up verbal attacks based on evils in western history books. i warned them multiple times to stop it or face me doing the same about China.

so, no, i'm not going to go into Dutch history right now, that would obviously not achieve my goals. you can go find the evils done by the Dutch now dead long ago, by googling for it.
we, like the Americans, allow for honest reporting about history.

and guess what? we also have honest records of China's evils.

if you don't want those evils revealed to the public, stop attacking the west based on that honest reporting you can find on google about our own history.
 
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Simple.... US will park 2 CSG in the Taiwanese waters.
 
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@Two and @Beast (2 particularly foolish Chinese) started this by keeping up verbal attacks based on evils in western history books. i warned them multiple times to stop it or face me doing the same about China.

so, no, i'm not going to go into Dutch history right now, that would obviously not achieve my goals. you can go find the evils done by the Dutch now dead long ago, by googling for it.
we, like the Americans, allow for honest reporting about history.

and guess what? we also have honest records of China's evils.

if you don't want those evils revealed to the public, stop attacking the west based on that honest reporting you can find on google about our own history.
Classic western lies !!! continue lie , i'm waiting ... Discredit other countries , Whitewash your history ,For hundreds of years ... CN 、India、 PAK、TUR 、Br 、Bangladesh、Angola、Afghanistan ,all of the world waiting your western country \ western people performance ....
 
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Classic western lies !!! continue lie , i'm waiting ... Discredit other countries , Whitewash your history ,For hundreds of years ... CN 、India、 PAK、TUR 、Br 、Bangladesh、Angola、Afghanistan ,all of the world waiting your western country \ western people performance ....

look, you personally haven't initiated verbal attacks on this forum against the west like these other 2 Chinese have. you responded to what i posted.

so, here's my offer, and i think it can remain valid : i'm fully willing to let it rest, to not mention evils in China's history again, if there are no new sustained attacks on western nations' reputations using the black pages / evil in the histories or western countries.

each time you attack my side's reputation using such methods, i counter-attack with one or more mentions of your own country's most horrible mistakes in history. and i'll do so as effectively and as sharply as possible.

which, people, is something to be avoided on a forum like this.

last thing we want is people even more stupid than us verbal fighters, to start physical fights over what they read here.
and there *is* a real risk of that.

however, i will do as i indicated, when seeing my side's reputation attacked again in this manner.
you will judge my side by the actions of our current leaders, not the leaders who are no longer in power, or even (long) dead already.
and then i can do the same for you.
 
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...full-scale-military-invasion-taiwan-yet-26621


July 23, 2018 Topic: Security Region: Asia Blog Brand: The Buzz Tags: TaiwanMilitaryTechnologyWorldwarChinaPLAPLAN
China Can't Launch a Full-Scale Military Invasion of Taiwan (Yet)

But Taipei is not exactly in the clear. We explain.

by Dave Majumdar
The Taiwanese government is claiming that the People’s Republic of China would invade the island state if the United States withdrew its support for Taipei.

However, it is dubious that Beijing has the amphibious assault capacity or capability to conduct a successful sea-based invasion of Taiwan where a forcible entry is required. Beijing could potentially get around some of those challenges, but even then a successful invasion of Taiwan by Chinese mainland forces seems dubious at best.


“(If) the Chinese see the vulnerability of Taiwan, not getting US support, then they would be thinking about starting scenarios where they would be able to take Taiwan over," Taiwanese foreign minister Joseph Wu told CNN.


Wu’s statement comes on the heels of a Chinese live-fire drill in the Taiwan Straits, which is prompting Taipei to seek reassurances from its few allies—including the United States.

"We are trying to maximize our cooperation with like-minded countries, try to engage security cooperation with the US to prevent China from thinking that they can take Taiwan over just overnight," Wu said.


While Taipei may be increasingly worries, one of the factors that has traditionally prevented Beijing from forcibly retaking the island state by force is geography. As the Pentagon’s 2017 Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China report states, Beijing has traditionally had difficulty in projecting power across the 100 nautical mile gap across the Taiwan Straits—particularly if there was prospect of an American intervention. But Chinese capabilities have markedly improved over the course of the past decade and the People’s Liberation Army continues to make strides in capability.

Related

Would America Sell Taiwan the Ultimate Weapon: The F-35?


Are China and Taiwan Heading Towards Conflict?


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However, while the Chinese have made significant gains in capability , the Pentagon does not believe that the PLA has the capability to launch a full-scale invasion of Taiwan.

“Large-scale amphibious invasion is one of the most complicated and difficult military operations,” the Pentagon report on China notes.

“Success depends upon air and sea superiority, the rapid buildup and sustainment of supplies onshore, and uninterrupted support. An attempt to invade Taiwan would strain China’s armed forces and invite international intervention. These stresses, combined with China’s combat force attrition and the complexity of urban warfare and counterinsurgency (assuming a successful landing and breakout), make an amphibious invasion of Taiwan a significant political and military risk. Taiwan’s investments to harden infrastructure and strengthen defensive capabilities could also decrease China’s ability to achieve its objectives.”

The Pentagon does believe that a smaller and much more limited invasion could be feasible.


“The PLA is capable of accomplishing various amphibious operations short of a full-scale invasion of Taiwan,” the Pentagon report states.

“With few overt military preparations beyond routine training, China could launch an invasion of small Taiwan-held islands in the South China Sea such as Pratas or Itu Aba. A PLA invasion of a medium-sized, better-defended island such as Matsu or Jinmen iswithin China’s capabilities. Such an invasion would demonstrate military capability and political resolve while achieving tangible territorial gain and simultaneously showing some measure of restraint. However, this kind of operation involves significant, and possibly prohibitive, political risk because it could galvanize pro-independence sentiment on Taiwan and generate international opposition.”

Recommended: Why No Commander Wants to Take On a Spike Missile

Recommended: What Will the Sixth-Generation Jet Fighter Look Like?

Recommended: Imagine a U.S. Air Force That Never Built the B-52 Bomber

While a full-scale invasion of Taiwan is likely beyond the scope of current Chinese capabilities, the People’s Liberation Army could mount a naval blockade or conduct a more limited military campaign.

“PLA writings describe a Joint Blockade campaign in which China would employ kinetic blockades of maritime and air traffic, including a cut-off of Taiwan’s vital imports to force Taiwan’s capitulation,” the report states.

“According to these writings, large-scale missile strikes and, possibly, seizures of Taiwan’s offshore islands would accompany a Joint Blockade in an attempt to achieve a rapid Taiwan surrender, while at the same time posturing air and naval forces to conduct weeks or months of blockade operations if necessary.”

Another option for Beijing could be a limited military campaign that stopped short of PLA troops setting foot on Taiwanese soil.

RTX2MXZU%20%281%29.jpg


“China might use a variety of disruptive, punitive, or lethal military actions in a limited campaign against Taiwan, probably in conjunction with overt and clandestine economic and political activities,” the report notes.

“Such a campaign could include computer network or limited kinetic attacks against Taiwan’s political, military, and economic infrastructure to induce fear in Taiwan and to degrade the Taiwan population’s confidence in their leaders. Similarly, PLA special operations forces could infiltrate Taiwan and conduct attacks against infrastructure or leadership targets.”

A limited Chinese campaign might also take the form of a concerted air campaign.

“China could use missile attacks and precision air strikes against air defense systems, including air bases, radar sites, missiles, space assets, and communications facilities to degrade Taiwan’s defenses, neutralize Taiwan’s leadership, or break the Taiwan people’s resolve,” the report states.
Tibet should be made independent from China...As a Buddhist and follower of the 14th Dalai Lama I want Tibet to be free of Chinese occupation..
 
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