China, Bangladesh defence relations reach ‘unprecedented heights’

[bongbang]

In short, there wouldn't have in any 'Bangladesh' today without us

And there wouldnt be any 'India' today if there wasnt some Bangladeshi elements such as Sri Mir Jafor. Mir Jafar is the founder of India. So thank him for all his hard work.

 

[dray]

Without going into detail of your history revisionism on 1971, the original text of the instrument of surrender reads, "The PAKISTAN Eastern Command agree to surrender all PAKISTAN Armed Forces in BANGLA DESH to Lieutenant-General JAGJIT SINGH AURORA, General Officer Commanding in Chief of Indian and BANGLA DESH forces in the Eastern Theater."

On topic: Your incapability to understand the reason why China has favorable views among the Bangladeshi public is precisely the reason why India, even after all these years, has failed to win over the general Bangladeshis...

1971 war was between India and Pakistan, it was a continuation of a long standing enmity and previous wars, East Pakistan was just a chip in the game, and creation of Bangladesh was the side effect...the idea was to cut Pakistan to size. And please don't kid yourself, Pakistan lost the real war to India on both western front and eastern front, and they had their real strength on western front. In eastern front Lt.Gen Arora had to take charge because it was a job of a professional army, the rag tag forces of BD got all the help from us, a full blockade on Pakistani army, training, weapons, logistics, bases, intel, but they proved to be, not discounting their valiant effort, incapable.

And please, Bangladeshis are not some exotic Miss Universe that we have to win over them. It is natural for smaller countries neighbouring a very big country to feel insecure, it is also an old tactics for the smaller countries to gain some benefits from the tussle of two neighbouring big countries, but it is only safer and effective for the smaller countries when the strategy is balanced, any loss of balance, or greed can really backfire. One can't deny the geographic realities after all, false pride and Internet bravado don't change these realities.

And there wouldnt be any 'India' today if there wasnt some Bangladeshi elements such as Sri Mir Jafor. Mir Jafar is the founder of India. So thank him for all his hard work.

Mir Jafar's treachery and subsequent British rule just put us behind, India would have become a nation state by replacing the monarchies in any case, it happened in rest of the world with or without British.

 

[UKBengali]

@Rain Man : Think of all the military goodies that the soon to be superpower will be supplying BD.

 

[dray]

@Rain Man : Think of all the military goodies that the soon to be superpower will be supplying BD.

That is not our concern, our concern is China. And again Bangladesh is just a chip.

 

[UKBengali]

That is not our concern, our concern is China. And again Bangladesh is just a chip.

What is a "chip"?

 

[Stag112]

All this is very confusing. So is BD Indian colony or not? Does India have hegemonic designs? Do we bully BD?

If we control BD, then how come BD China relations have grown so healthy?

If BD gov is subservient, how have they successfully pushed India to drasticaly reduce border shootings? Or to conclude conclaves deal?

If China is soooooo nice and India such a bully, how come BD won the bay of bengal sea rights case against India in international tribunal and India happily abided, while worlds bestest country china is simply drawing arbitrary lines in SCS and refusing to abide by rulings and bullying smaller countries (including muslim ones)? Do the pathetic china cheerleaders have any shame or integrity? Has religion rendered the famous intellectual bengalis to such a morally destitute state?

 

[bluesky]

I cannot take too much BS in one post, try cutting down on that.

Whether India and BD are friendly or not is one thing, asking for enmity is another.

Your people killed your Mujib, and India is responsible...some logic!

Pakistan surrendered to us, not to BD, BD was not capable to make them surrender, not then not now. And India started your navy by gifting vessels.

Your 'very old friend China' was about to attack on behalf of Pakistan in 1971, they are also the one to oppose your state's recognition in UN. In short, there wouldn't have in any 'Bangladesh' today without us, especially not if China had its way on that matter.

Your naked policy was partly responsible to make Sk. Mujib unpopular. He could not even give the army men arms training arms training because all the arms have been taken away by the Indian troops. Together with a hungry population he lost his popularity. Some rogue elements in the Army took opportunity to kill him because they knew Sk, Mujib had become unpopular among the common people as well as the Army.

What is a "chip"?

May be to the Indians a chip means, perhaps, a shoe lace. This is what they think of us. They will know at some time in the future that BD is not a shoe lace, but a pair of good shoes.

BD=China good relationship makes the Indians insane. We must send some doctors to attend the insane patients. @Mohammed Khaled may be hired after he graduates.

 

[dray]

Has religion rendered the famous intellectual bengalis to such a morally destitute state?

That part of Bengal is devoid of any.....all of them left for West Bengal. The crisis was so acute that they had to request us to loan them our poet Kazi Nazrul Islam, so that they can have their own national poet. The situation didn't change much since then, those handful who were/are still there first got killed in the hands of jamati razakars and pak soldiers in 1971, and now in the hands of chapatti brigade.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Your naked policy was partly responsible to make Sk. Mujib unpopular. He could not even give the army men arms training arms training because all the arms have been taken away by the Indian troops. Together with a hungry population he lost his popularity. Some rogue elements in the Army took opportunity to kill him because they knew Sk, Mujib had become unpopular among the common people as well as the Army.



May be to the Indians a chip means, perhaps, a shoe lace. This is what they think of us. They will know at some time in the future that BD is not a shoe lace, but a pair of good shoes.

BD=China good relationship makes the Indians insane. We must send some doctors to attend the insane patients. @Mohammed Khaled may be hired after he graduates.

I am not into any of Asian bullshit. I am out for good. Anyways I associate more with Kuwait than Bangladesh so yeah.

Edit: before anyone starts screaming luxury and other bullshit. No. I love Kuwait because people, they are extremely friendly sensible and patriotic in some case which I like about them.

My situation is more like tom cruise in the last samurai. XD

 

[extra terrestrial]

1971 war was between India and Pakistan, it was a continuation of a long standing enmity and previous wars, East Pakistan was just a chip in the game, and creation of Bangladesh was the side effect...the idea was to cut Pakistan to size. And please don't kid yourself, Pakistan lost the real war to India on both western front and eastern front, and they had their real strength on western front. In eastern front Lt.Gen Arora had to take charge because it was a job of a professional army, the rag tag forces of BD got all the help from us, a full blockade on Pakistani army, training, weapons, logistics, bases, intel, but they proved to be, not discounting their valiant effort, incapable.

Okay... I'm ignoring this school textbook shit...

And please, Bangladeshis are not some exotic Miss Universe that we have to win over them. It is natural for smaller countries neighbouring a very big country to feel insecure, it is also an old tactics for the smaller countries to gain some benefits from the tussle of two neighbouring big countries, but it is only safer and effective for the smaller countries when the strategy is balanced, any loss of balance, or greed can really backfire. One can't deny the geographic realities after all, false pride and Internet bravado don't change these realities.

Well, I hope the Indian policy makers don't think that way at least... If they do, then I must say there is a huge lack of depth in their strategic thinking, which is very sad for a country like India...

 

[bluesky]

If China is soooooo nice and India such a bully, how come BD won the bay of bengal sea rights case against India in international tribunal and India happily abided, while worlds bestest country china is simply drawing arbitrary lines in SCS and refusing to abide by rulings and bullying smaller countries (including muslim ones)? Do the pathetic china cheerleaders have any shame or integrity? Has religion rendered the famous intellectual bengalis to such a morally destitute state?

1) BoB sea right was decided by the Hague Tribunal and it was not an unilateral Indian decision.
2) Whatever China does inSouth China Sea is not our proble. And why it will also be a problem of India. Ganye Manena Apni Morol?
3) China is not bullying any Muslim country.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Oh pls china offer us some good tanks in good numbers. I fuckin love tanks.

 

[bluesky]

That part of Bengal is devoid of any.....all of them left for West Bengal. The crisis was so acute that they had to request us to loan them our poet Kazi Nazrul Islam, so that they can have their own national poet. The situation didn't change much since then, those handful who were/are still there first got killed in the hands of jamati razakars and pak soldiers in 1971, and now in the hands of chapatti brigade.

You are lying. This honorable poet of Bengal was sick and the Delhi or Kolkata govt was not giving him any medical treatment. This is why Bangabanhu requested India to set him free of Indian shackle and allow to bring him to his Bengal in the east. Thank you India!!!

 

[kobiraaz]

That part of Bengal is devoid of any.....all of them left for West Bengal. The crisis was so acute that they had to request us to loan them our poet Kazi Nazrul Islam, so that they can have their own national poet. The situation didn't change much since then, those handful who were/are still there first got killed in the hands of jamati razakars and pak soldiers in 1971, and now in the hands of chapatti brigade.

The problem is with you. You don't know about writers from other side of the border. Not our problem.... I am an avid reader and other than Gorvodharini By Samresh West Bengal literature frustrates me. Utterly boring.

All this is very confusing. So is BD Indian colony or not? Does India have hegemonic designs? Do we bully BD?

If we control BD, then how come BD China relations have grown so healthy?

If BD gov is subservient, how have they successfully pushed India to drasticaly reduce border shootings? Or to conclude conclaves deal?

If China is soooooo nice and India such a bully, how come BD won the bay of bengal sea rights case against India in international tribunal and India happily abided, while worlds bestest country china is simply drawing arbitrary lines in SCS and refusing to abide by rulings and bullying smaller countries (including muslim ones)? Do the pathetic china cheerleaders have any shame or integrity? Has religion rendered the famous intellectual bengalis to such a morally destitute state?

Sorry that you are already banned. But if you can linger around being red, Here is my reply:- Your post is incoherent. There is no connection with one point to the other...

China can do whatever it wants to do within its border. South China Sea doesn't concern us,.why mention such gibberish here?

" Has religion rendered the........... "

Where did you find religion in the entire thread? It was clearly mentioned in the first page that we have a good share of people who are Anti Wahabi Anti Shii Anti Turk. It was the army to army relation we were discussing and You have Zero influence over our army. Neither you bully nor you control our army.

Check facts about border shooting. It hasnt reduced a bit. Conclave and Maritime territory? As if you donated us something which was yours because of Good will? Those are our territory to begin with.

You wanted to indicate that you could have behaved like China. Ah Super power Syndrome is apparent. Come back next year when you are actually a part of security council.

That part of Bengal is devoid of any.....all of them left for West Bengal. The crisis was so acute that they had to request us to loan them our poet Kazi Nazrul Islam, so that they can have their own national poet. The situation didn't change much since then, those handful who were/are still there first got killed in the hands of jamati razakars and pak soldiers in 1971, and now in the hands of chapatti brigade.

Kazi Nazrul spent Half of his youth in East Bengal and you can't loan anyone if he doesn't want to leave. Its funny that he chose Bangladesh over India as his last abode.

Now the first genetaion of Bangals have died I am sure you won't breed any classic writers. From Tagore to Nazrul, from Jashimuddin to Jibanando all were influenced by the rivers and monsoon of East Bengal. Art Creativity in Ghotis is as rare as water in desert

 

[Zabaniyah]

Yes man, there are Anti india bangladeshi, Anti Pak Bangladeshi, Anti Myanmar Bangladeshi, Anti Arab king Bangladeshi, Anti Iran Bangladeshi, Anti Putin Bangladeshi, Anti Turkey Bangladeshi. Anti israel Bangladeshi

Damn. So much negativity!

Doesn't that nullify the actual treat perception?

But Anti China Bangladeshi is a rare case. Same goes for Japan. Japan and China have always been by our side.

True.

At present India have put all it's eggs on a single basket while China has shared it equally for both baskets. Let's see which one is effective in the long run.

The Chinese can outwit both the Americans and the Indians in one run.