China and US in talks on code of conduct

[gambit]

China considers losing one of its pilot in exchange for a US surveillance plane a worthy exchange. So such accident could very well happen again especially consider P-8 is the latest toy US just recently started to fly.

Said Chinese pilot will have an 'accident' with an AMRAAM that came out of nowhere.

 

[SQ8]

Said Chinese pilot will have an 'accident' with an AMRAAM that came out of nowhere.

At one point the US P-3 fleet had the provision to fire the AIM-9L.. does the P-8 not have the same ability?

 

[sincity]

China already serve notice to US spy plane close encounter with China J11 if continue spy on China with P8 will someday repeat the midair collision and the same ending as the 2003 incident.

 

[Zsari]

Said Chinese pilot will have an 'accident' with an AMRAAM that came out of nowhere.

You think the US will start a shoot war? Both side are playing a game of chicken on the high sea, skirting around the edge of international law, but start a shooting war is entirely a different matter.

 

[Zsari]

how bold.
destroying a multi-hundred dollar plane and killing 7 Americans in international water

you think there won't be consequences?
time to cut the dragons head off before it gets to full of it's self.

Accidents do happen, but no, the trick is not to destroy the plane but force it to land on Hainan intact, just like what happened to the EP-3. Equipment onboard can be very valuable to the Chinese. Consequence, hmm, we all know what was the consequence in 2001.

 

[Aepsilons]

Well if you want to keep the harassment then keep it up. I recommend you do more barrel rolls or something. Welcome to the game.



Well then make that accident happen again. Shouldn't be hard for the Chinese pilots.

Next time, make sure to send a squadron of lead in fighters to escort the P-8s.

Said Chinese pilot will have an 'accident' with an AMRAAM that came out of nowhere.

That's right, and no, it couldn't be an F-22 because tactical planners and analysts from the PLAAF concluded that there are no F-22s outside the United States. Theoretically.

At one point the US P-3 fleet had the provision to fire the AIM-9L.. does the P-8 not have the same ability?

It has 5 internal and 6 external stations for AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, AGM-84 Harpoon, Mark 54 Torpedo, missiles, mines, torpedos, bombs and a High Altitude Ant-Submarine Warfare Weapon system.

 

[terranMarine]

next time send some escort of F-22 along with the P-8, we like to see it with our own eyes the existence of F-22

 

[Aepsilons]

I wouldn't be surprised if F-22s have already visited China.

 

[terranMarine]

I wouldn't be surprised if F-22s have already visited China.

Just like the B-2s?

 

[Cyberian]

Letter of the Two Sorries

"... The letter stated that the United States was "very sorry" for the death of Chinese pilot Wang Wei, and "We are very sorry the entering of China's airspace and the landing did not have verbal clearance..."

Hainan Island incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[gambit]

At one point the US P-3 fleet had the provision to fire the AIM-9L.. does the P-8 not have the same ability?

Looks like it...

Boeing P-8 Poseidon Maritime Patrol Aircraft | Military-Today.com

The Boeing P-8A Poseidon will carry lightweight Raytheon Mk.54 anti-submarine torpedoes. It may also carry other torpedoes, missiles, free-fall bombs, depth charges, mines, or sonbuoys in it's rotary integral weapon bay, located beneath the forward section of the fuselage. Air-to-surface and air-to air missiles, such as Harpoon anti-ship missiles, SLAM or AGM-65 Maverick land attack missiles, and AIM-9 Sidewinders or AIM-120 AMRAAMs will be carried on the underwing hardpoints.

 

[gambit]

next time send some escort of F-22 along with the P-8, we like to see it with our own eyes the existence of F-22

How about the existence of a missile instead ?

The Last Ace - Mark Bowden - The Atlantic

It is a large framed picture, a panoramic cockpit view of open sky and desert. A small F‑15 Eagle is visible in the distance, but larger and more immediate, filling the center of the shot, staring right at the viewer, is an incoming missile.

It is a startling picture, memorializing a moment of air-to-air combat from January 19, 1991, over Iraq. Air-to-air combat has become exceedingly rare. Even when it happens, modern fighter pilots are rarely close enough to actually see the person they are shooting at. This image recalls a kill registered by Rodriguez, who goes by Rico, and his wingman, Craig Underhill, known as Mole, during the Gulf War.

A special-operations team combed the Iraqi MiG’s crash site, and this was one of the items salvaged, the last millisecond of incoming data from the doomed Iraqi pilot’s HUD, or head-up display. It was the final splash of light on his retinas, probably arriving too late for his brain to process before being vaporized with the rest of his corporeal frame. Pilots like Rodriguez don’t romanticize such exploits. These are strictly matter-of-fact men from a world where war is work, and life and death hang on a rapidly and precisely calibrated reality, an attitude captured by the flat caption mounted on the frame: THIS IS AN AIM-7 AIR-TO-AIR MISSILE SHOT FROM AN F‑15 EAGLE DETONATING ON AN IRAQI MIG‑29 FULCRUM DURING OPERATION DESERT STORM.

The USAF have the world's only digital record of what a man saw right before he die. Odds are good that a Chinese pilot would provide the second.

 

[TaiShang]

The real game begins when China starts reconnaissance near US territories

When it happens, the US won't be allowed to whine.

 

[xunzi]

It looks like our American friend is looking for trouble, a tit for tat type of cold war that we warned the US to avoid a 2nd cold war situation from happening.

 

[ngotung208]

I agree with the comments you have made