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China and Pakistan make an oddball but enduring couple | GulfNews.com

By David Pilling
February 13, 2015

You could call them the odd couple. China and Pakistan have one of the closest yet least understood relationships in international diplomacy. On the surface, they have little in common. China’s state is strong and its economy has been growing for decades. The Pakistani state, apart from the military, is weak and its economic performance has been disastrous. China is Communist and religion is tightly controlled. Pakistan is Islamic and religious fervour is often out of control.

Despite this, the two have maintained a decades-long relationship. It has survived the vicissitudes of Pakistan’s military and civilian governments and of Islamabad’s shape-shifting relations with Washington. On Thursday, Wang Yi, China’s Foreign Minister, visited Pakistan to cement what Islamabad calls the “unshakeable bonds of friendship”. Xi Jinping, China’s President, has accepted an invitation to visit Islamabad this year.

We tend not to see things through Beijing’s eyes. If we are to make sense of shifting realities, we will have to try. From Beijing, the world can seem a hostile place. The US, with its unshakeable faith in liberal democracy, may not be actively seeking regime change in China, but it will surely welcome the collapse of the Communist party. In conjunction with other countries, including India, Australia and Japan, Washington is trying to contain China’s regional military ambitions. Neighbouring countries like the Philippines and Vietnam, which until recently had been reassured by Beijing’s “smile diplomacy”, have grown wary. Even North Korea, almost wholly dependent on Chinese largesse, has grown defiant.

Pakistan looks like Beijing’s one true friend. One of the first countries to recognise the People’s Republic in the early 1950s, Islamabad was a bridge between China and the US. When Henry Kissinger, who later became US secretary of state, made his secret visit to China in 1971 to prepare for normalisation of US-China relations, he sneaked in from Pakistan. And for Beijing, Pakistan has been a way to keep India off balance.

In return, Beijing has kept Pakistan’s military equipped when supplies dried up from elsewhere. Beijing also provided information and enriched uranium for Pakistan’s nuclear bomb. When a US stealth helicopter crashed during the 2011 operation to kill Osama Bin Laden, the Pakistanis showed the wreckage first to the Chinese. China built Pakistan a deepwater port at Gwadar on the Indian Ocean.
Staying the course

Andrew Small, author of a book on the relationship, says Beijing has earned real leverage. In 2007, under Chinese pressure, Islamabad raided the Lal Masjid “Red Mosque” after militants kidnapped several Chinese citizens. Chinese pressure has been one factor behind Pakistan’s offensive against militant groups in North Waziristan.

For years, the US pushed for the same thing without success. The China-Pakistan axis is worth watching if only because it shows the limits of Beijing’s non-interventionist policy. As it gets sucked into the global whirlpool, it faces the risk of blowback. China now has to deal with attacks by members of the Uighur, a Muslim minority group. Some may be ideologically inspired, if not planned, in Pakistan’s lawless tribal belt.

Like the US, Beijing worries Pakistan may not always crack down as hard on terrorists as it pretends.
Despite all this, China has stayed the course while Washington has blown hot and cold. That raises the intriguing notion of whether the US and China could work more closely in Pakistan.


While there is much that divides their strategic interests, a surprising amount unites them. Beijing and Washington want a stable, viable Pakistan, not a viper’s nest of terrorist export. Both want to ensure the Pakistani military keeps a firm hold on nuclear weapons. Both want Pakistan to rein in support for the Afghan Taliban in the wake of US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Some detect signs that Beijing has become more open to the idea. Wang Jisi, a Chinese foreign policy expert, has said that China’s “western periphery” offers a rare opportunity. In east Asia, the US pivot is seen as containment and the two are locked in what he says is a zero-sum game. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, however, Beijing and Washington have “significant scope for cooperation”. It is in neither’s interest for Pakistan to fail. If they could work together in that cause, it would be the oddest thing of all.

— Financial Times
 
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What an odd article. It makes little sense, most of which I'm not going to get into.

One simple example shows just how poorly thought out this article was...

" Wang Jisi, a Chinese foreign policy expert, has said that China’s “western periphery” offers a rare opportunity."

Rare opportunity for what? It doesn't say. If they're talking about what was mentioned in the last few sentences, then it still doesn't make sense, as it's nothing more than speculation with no substance.
 
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The two reasons why China is mollycoddling Pakistan is, first because it wants to keep its arch rival India preoccupied with Pakistan's pinpricks. With its Southern flank partially secured, it can concentrate on larger issues - defence as well as its economy.

Secondly, it's using Pakistan to build connectivity to the Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz for enhancing its trade by building a road from Kashgar to Gwadar for its own national interests. Pakistan is just a bit player in this project.

All this 'brotherly', 'sisterly' 'all weather friends' crap is a load of hooey!

As mentioned earlier, there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests.
 
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The two reasons why China is mollycoddling Pakistan is, first because it wants to keep its arch rival India preoccupied with Pakistan's pinpricks. With its Southern flank partially secured, it can concentrate on larger issues - defence as well as its economy.

Secondly, it's using Pakistan to build connectivity to the Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz for enhancing its trade by building a road from Kashgar to Gwadar for its own national interests. Pakistan is just a bit player in this project.

All this 'brotherly', 'sisterly' 'all weather friends' crap is a load of hooey!

As mentioned earlier, there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests.
China wants to establish Burma to Indian railways, India refused。
China trust Pakistan, Pakistan trust China, so China to build roads in Pakistan, this is my friend.Economic development need traffic developed, building roads is important,This is China's development experience
 
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The two reasons why China is mollycoddling Pakistan is, first because it wants to keep its arch rival India preoccupied with Pakistan's pinpricks. With its Southern flank partially secured, it can concentrate on larger issues - defence as well as its economy.

Secondly, it's using Pakistan to build connectivity to the Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz for enhancing its trade by building a road from Kashgar to Gwadar for its own national interests. Pakistan is just a bit player in this project.

All this 'brotherly', 'sisterly' 'all weather friends' crap is a load of hooey!

As mentioned earlier, there are no permanent friends, only permanent interests.


...and its been a fruitful relationship.
 
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Pakistan trusts China.
Of course it does! Is there an option considering that there are very few countries that trust Pakistan? So it's a cosy relationship between Pakistan and China. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours!!

China to Pakistan: We'll try and build your infrastructure and give you missile and nuclear technology in exchange for keeping India busy on our Southern flank! Win win situation, what?
 
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Of course it does! Is there an option considering that there are very few countries that trust Pakistan? So it's a cosy relationship between Pakistan and China. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours!!

China to Pakistan: We'll try and build your infrastructure and give you missile and nuclear technology in exchange for keeping India busy on our Southern flank! Win win situation, what?

But what's your point?
 
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...and its been a fruitful relationship.
Like how?

China refused to bail you out recently for a $7 billion loan that Pkistan desperately wanted. It had to run to the IMF which finally agreed but with strict conditionalities.

In September 2010, China promised $300 million USD for flood relief. Till today, China had provided just $47.1 million USD worth of humanitarian supplies to Pakistan! What happened to the promised $300 million?

Did China ever come to the rescue of Pakistan during the wars of 1965, 1971, or even Kargil? Except for some diplomatic lip service, they chose not to take sides. When Pakistan sought Chinese assistance during its 1965 war with India, Beijing encouraged Islamabad to withdraw its forces from Indian territory. During the 1999 Indo–Pakistani border war in Kargil, Beijing privately supported U.S. calls for Pakistan to withdraw its forces from the heights of Kargil on the Indian side of the Line of Control to defuse the crisis, and apparently communicated this stance to Pakistani leaders.

Pakistani media routinely reports huge numbers for investment and financing with China, numbers that cannot be verified by any independent source, including by the Chinese government or the Chinese companies supposedly involved!! While Pakistani officials talk of a total of $25 billion in Chinese investment in Pakistan so far, the PRC’s official figure of direct investment is less than $2 billion to Pakistan!

China has shown little interest in propping up Pakistan’s economy and has not provided substantial economic aid, even during times of need. In contrast, the U.S. has provided considerably higher amounts of economic and military aid to Pakistan over the past decade and also serves as a link to the rest of the Western nations, which otherwise would likely be inclined to sanction Pakistan for its nuclear and terrorism activities.

Add to this the Chinese criticisms of Pakistan for failing to crack down on the training of Uighur separatists in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The Chinese rebuke mirrored U.S. calls for the Pakistani government to do more to rein in Afghan insurgents who also find sanctuary in Pakistan. Local Chinese authorities in Xinjiang charged that the person who conducted the July attacks in Kashgar had received training in Pakistan. The accusations were repeated in the China Daily newspaper.

Another sign that China was feeling increasingly compelled to pressure Pakistan to adopt stricter counterterrorism policies was when Beijing dropped its resistance to banning the JuD/LeT in the United Nations Security Council. Before then, China had vetoed Security Council resolutions seeking to ban the JuD.

Sino Pak trade is now $14 billion. In contrast Sino Indian trade stands at $70 billion, $100 billion by the end of this year and projected to reach $500 billion by 2020-2022!

I can go on and on, but this will suffice for now. Seems the steel isn't as strong as suggested nor is the ocean as deep as is thought!!
 
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Of course it does! Is there an option considering that there are very few countries that trust Pakistan? So it's a cosy relationship between Pakistan and China. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours!!

China to Pakistan: We'll try and build your infrastructure and give you missile and nuclear technology in exchange for keeping India busy on our Southern flank! Win win situation, what?
The United States to provide weapons to Pakistan, Russia teach China made the atomic bomb.but India like Russia and the United States.why?

Like how?

China refused to bail you out recently for a $7 billion loan that Pkistan desperately wanted. It had to run to the IMF which finally agreed but with strict conditionalities.

In September 2010, China promised $300 million USD for flood relief. Till today, China had provided just $47.1 million USD worth of humanitarian supplies to Pakistan! What happened to the promised $300 million?

Did China ever come to the rescue of Pakistan during the wars of 1965, 1971, or even Kargil? Except for some diplomatic lip service, they chose not to take sides. When Pakistan sought Chinese assistance during its 1965 war with India, Beijing encouraged Islamabad to withdraw its forces from Indian territory. During the 1999 Indo–Pakistani border war in Kargil, Beijing privately supported U.S. calls for Pakistan to withdraw its forces from the heights of Kargil on the Indian side of the Line of Control to defuse the crisis, and apparently communicated this stance to Pakistani leaders.

Pakistani media routinely reports huge numbers for investment and financing with China, numbers that cannot be verified by any independent source, including by the Chinese government or the Chinese companies supposedly involved!! While Pakistani officials talk of a total of $25 billion in Chinese investment in Pakistan so far, the PRC’s official figure of direct investment is less than $2 billion to Pakistan!

China has shown little interest in propping up Pakistan’s economy and has not provided substantial economic aid, even during times of need. In contrast, the U.S. has provided considerably higher amounts of economic and military aid to Pakistan over the past decade and also serves as a link to the rest of the Western nations, which otherwise would likely be inclined to sanction Pakistan for its nuclear and terrorism activities.

Add to this the Chinese criticisms of Pakistan for failing to crack down on the training of Uighur separatists in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. The Chinese rebuke mirrored U.S. calls for the Pakistani government to do more to rein in Afghan insurgents who also find sanctuary in Pakistan. Local Chinese authorities in Xinjiang charged that the person who conducted the July attacks in Kashgar had received training in Pakistan. The accusations were repeated in the China Daily newspaper.

Another sign that China was feeling increasingly compelled to pressure Pakistan to adopt stricter counterterrorism policies was when Beijing dropped its resistance to banning the JuD/LeT in the United Nations Security Council. Before then, China had vetoed Security Council resolutions seeking to ban the JuD.

I can go on and on, but this will suffice for now. Seems the steel isn't as strong as suggested nor is the ocean as deep as was thought!!
The economic communication between China and the United States,But the Chinese don't like the americans, the americans doubt the Chinese.China has not accused Pakistan, because of the Pakistani government does not support terrorism,Chinese respect Pakistan's sovereignty, so hope that Pakistan's government efforts to eliminate the terrorists,China's people's liberation army (PLA) and the Pakistani military exchanges and cooperation, just for the sake of counter-terrorism,China does not harm the peace in South Asia.
 
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@OrionHunter

I agree with you, even though you are an Indian and certainly have an agenda,:D but what you are saying is quite true. We just like to exaggerate our relationship with China. No doubt our relationship was and still is very much India-centric and I blame this largely on our leaders.

We have signed numerous IMU’s worth billions of dollar with China, unfortunately most of them remain just on piece of paper.

Our leaders have to think out-of-the-box and give up shameless begging mentality, they ain’t getting anything from the Chinese, they are not USA.
 
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