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China and India which country is more democratic: the richer the country is the more democratic it

There are many examples. One is to have a right to say NO.

No to what? A lot of things poor people cannot say no to, cause you know, no food causes death and since it is only education that makes people unique and important in a way, that means the more educated a population is, the more choices they have.

Chinese education system is one of the best.

Second is the right to express your own thoughts.

Who told you Chinese people cannot do that? Besides we are far more liberal and progressive than most, since we aren't religious at all.

Homosexuality is illegal in India. Its not in China.

So if we are to be completely honest, we can't really assemble to protest the government, the one difference.

While at the same time, our environmental problems are getting the attention, India don't even have a station that measures some of the most important pollutants.

China is punishing far more corrupt politicians than rest of the world combined, but you don't really think the rest of the world has less corrupt politicians do you.


This can be taken in many different ways. So what do you mean exactly? Just screaming until sun down? Or one's words actually have weight? What can't Chinese do?


Third is the right to live life on your own terms.

This definitely needs money. Also why can't Chinese people do this?
 
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Woman right:Chairman Mao said a famous saying:“women hold up half the sky ” decades ago

Talking about women's empowerment...

China ranks 2nd in female CEO percentage
By Hu Xiaocen | April 30, 2014, Wednesday

China had the second-highest percentage of women chief executive officers in the world during the past decade after the United States and Canada, a private report showed.

The US and Canada had the highest percent of women CEOs between 2004 and 2013 at 3.2 percent, followed by China's 2.5 percent. Japan had the lowest rate of 0.8 percent, Strategy&, formerly known as Booz&Co prior to the takeover by PricewaterhouseCoopers, said in a report today.

“Women CEOs are still rare, but they are becoming more prevalent, and we expect that trend to accelerate,” the consultancy firm said in the report. “By 2040, we project that women will make up about a third of new CEO appointments.”

Companies in the information technology, consumer staples, and consumer discretionary industries had the highest percentages of women leaders while the materials industry had the lowest.

In China, women contribute half of the workforce. However, while 50 percent take up entry jobs the figure drops to 10 percent for senior positions. Although China has a high internal promotion rate for CEOs at 84 percent, the opportunities for women are limited, partially because they have an earlier retirement age compared to men.

To get around this, some women have chosen to run their own business. A quarter of China's entrepreneurs are female. Furthermore, half of the world's self-made female billionaires are from China, Sarah Butler, managing director of Strategy& in China, told Shanghai Daily.

Who told you Chinese people cannot do that? Besides we are far more liberal and progressive than most, since we aren't religious at all.

Homosexuality is illegal in India. Its not in China.

So if we are to be completely honest, we can't really assemble to protest the government, the one difference.

While at the same time, our environmental problems are getting the attention, India don't even have a station that measures some of the most important pollutants.

China is punishing far more corrupt politicians than rest of the world combined, but you don't really think the rest of the world has less corrupt politicians do you.

This can be taken in many different ways. So what do you mean exactly? Just screaming until sun down? Or one's words actually have weight? What can't Chinese do?

Very well-said.

Indian democracy is like giving the mass-rapists freedom while never questioning the ongoing oppression of women and children (especially female children) and the low castes.

Indian democracy is a facade; inside is chaos, filth and oppression. Just because India is a nobody today (no challenge to no body) its social ills are being ignored.

If India had achieved one-tenth of the progress China achieved socially, the situation would be different today. India would have been a slightly developed country (in terms of social and cultural, as well economic, conditions) and would have felt the heat of international criticism.

It is not that India is what it is today because it is democratic. A Chinese model would probably have had a worse outcome. It is because Indian social development is somehow backward and hindered because of the elite/rich/class interest.

China's model is indigenous and not free from shortcomings. But it is an organic system, thus, it maintains its vitality. No other society on the face of the earth has gone through so many dramatic social adjustments and reforms than China.

China's governance is not rigid, but, evolving and dialectical.

China learns from India so as not to repeat the same mistakes.

China learns from Libya and Syria so as not to allow anything similar to happen in China.

India's problems are not because it is democratic (I mean they hold elections every four (?) year). China's problems are not because it does not hold elections.

The question is whether you have an effective and progressive government to address and tackle the problems or not.

China does have a progressive and liberationist government.

India has not so far.
 
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The thing is, what is "Democracy"?

The Philippines is said to be "democratic" yet we you can sue someone with libel - a law which originated from the Spanish colonial era.
 
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Talking about women's empowerment...


China does have a progressive and liberationist government.

India has not so far.

That is why I like India in this sense. Just having more women as CEO is not progressive or having gay rights. It's putting the best people on the top. I believe China's liberals will destroy the country in my lifetime if they are not stop.

@ChineseTiger1986
 
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The thing is, what is "Democracy"?

The Philippines is said to be "democratic" yet we you can sue someone with libel - a law which originated from the Spanish colonial era.

Good question, what is democracy, I don't know either, I only know it's not panacea that could cure anything. Many African countries has British or French system like a well operating trade unionism to protect worker's interest, but the endless civil strife makes their economy stagnant for decades, nothing improved at all. So this is a mere formality, except the external form, nothing is like the real democracy of those western countries. I always believe each country should stick to her own path.
 
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Good question, what is democracy, I don't know either, I only know it's not panacea that could cure anything. Many African countries has British or French system like a well operating trade unionism to protect worker's interest, but the endless civil strife makes their economy stagnant for decades, nothing improved at all. So this is a mere formality, except the external form, nothing is like the real democracy of those western countries. I always believe each country should stick to her own path.

By going to the original definition of democracy... the original one, which were created by the Greeks is very different. Despite the name roughly translates "power of the people", only males above 20 years old can speak and vote in a Greek Assembly and the individual rights is not secured compared to modern times. As for decision making, it is similar to a modern-day parliament.
 
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That is why I like India in this sense. Just having more women as CEO is not progressive or having gay rights. It's putting the best people on the top. I believe China's liberals will destroy the country in my lifetime if they are not stop.

@ChineseTiger1986

I should add "meritocracy" in addition to progressive and liberationist (not liberal).

China has been practicing meritocracy for over 2000 years.

I am amazed each time I see the exam scrolls in Taiwan's museums that dates back 2000 years.

So: Progressive, liberationist and meritocratic.
 
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Lol I find it funny the Chinese in PDF talk of Democracy..... U guys have no idea what it is, do u? Why drag Indians ? If u are happy with Chinese style of so called Democracy then so be it....
 
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I always believe each country should stick to her own path.
agree with this, Saudi Arabia is rich country but still hold on their religious authoritarian system. it's hard for Middle eastern countries to accept democracy since authoritarianism has strong root in it, and their people seems fine with it.

You can see why Libya facing difficulities to practicing democracy after good days with authoritarian system

Same with China, China is doing good with its way now. just stick with a path that leads toward prosperity.

Every nations has it own way to move forward, religious way, democratic way, or authoritarian way.
 
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agree with this, Saudi Arabia is rich country but still hold on their religious authoritarian system. it's hard for Middle eastern countries to accept democracy since authoritarianism has strong root in it, and their people seems fine with it.

You can see why Libya facing difficulities to practicing democracy after good days with authoritarian system

Same with China, China is doing good with its way now. just stick with a path that leads toward prosperity.

Every nations has it own way to move forward, religious way, democratic way, or authoritarian way.

Well said bro!
 
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yes,who care
If you care democratic but everyday you are very poor,what you think.

like

your left side of the neighbor. This is a strict father, the father forced his children to study well, 20 years ,the child find a good job and rich,
Your right side of the neighbor, there is a democracy child, he said to his father I want democracy, his father think yes right, so child is free to play, 20 years after the child has democracy, but at the same time, he every day thinking about how to eat today

In my view, I just shut up and learn fast,because we lag behind many developed countries.just do it
 
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If democracy means communists oppression on citizens , then yes China more democratic .
 
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India is about as democratic as Saudi Arabia. When you have things like castes...thats just not modern. People should be treated fairly and equally in a so called democratic society. No one should have to live in slums because of their birth, sit on top of trains to get to work every day and be beaten up by mobs because of their sexuality or religion. That sounds more like 12th century sh1t.
 
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India is about as democratic as Saudi Arabia. When you have things like castes...thats just not modern. People should be treated fairly and equally in a so called democratic society.
Did Indian constitution discriminate people by their religion , gender, race , caste or ethnicity ?

No one should have to live in slums because of their birth,
So democracy means everyone own a big bungalow (Ironically KSA citizen owns better than Aussies, so KSA is more democratic than Australia)
sit on top of trains to get to work every day
Oh I didn't know that Indian travel on the floor of train due to lack of democracy in India.
and be beaten up by mobs because of their sexuality or religion.
Ironically you are saying these with flying Australia flag
That sounds more like 12th century sh1t.
Ironically India in 12th century was more prosperous even without democracy.
 
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India is about as democratic as Saudi Arabia. When you have things like castes...thats just not modern. People should be treated fairly and equally in a so called democratic society. No one should have to live in slums because of their birth, sit on top of trains to get to work every day and be beaten up by mobs because of their sexuality or religion. That sounds more like 12th century sh1t.

Haha you're funny , too bad your depth of India is as relevant as your comment on the internet .if India is Saudi Arabia then China is the realm of oblivion .

Our current P.M is a lower cast hindu who used to sell tea as a child on the railway platform , his predecessor is a minority Sikh, who make up 2% of the population.

Our last president is a women , her processor is a Muslim , the president of our former government for the past 3 decades is a Italian women .

Chinese government decide the future of its citizens , unlike Indians can do what they wish for & openly oppose any move made by the government & the entire population have open access to all government/police/industries/cases etc information by just filling a RTI online .

Hell just as recent as last month , we kicked out freebasic(facebook) by just voteing online TARI , even though the prime minister openly supported it .That's the power only a democracy can have.
 
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