China and India each deploy 3,000 troops Border face-off

[Shajida Khan]

Not Xi it was your Foreign Minister who reacted first and contacted China's foreign office about their reservations against CPEC for which China told you to get lost

Secondly, China don't give a dam whether India join OBOR or not and its OBOR not OROB.

You guys go and build your Chabahar port for which India will invest at most $500 million dollar against CPEC for which the investment has reached $62 bn.

Actually India has told Xi to get lost when they had been asking us to join OROB for regional development. And whats more, China gives a lot of 'dam [sic]' about India to join this project. Why? because after China, India is the largest economy in the region.
Unlike a certain bottomless pit in which all the aid and investment disappears without any progress, Indian economy
has been growing much much faster.

 

[BetterPakistan]

Actually India has told Xi to get lost when they had been asking us to join OROB for regional development. And whats more, China gives a lot of 'dam [sic]' about India to join this project. Why? because after China, India is the largest economy in the region.
Unlike a certain bottomless pit in which all the aid and investment disappears without any progress, Indian economy
has been growing much much faster.

Again I am telling you its not OROB its OBOR (One Belt One Road). China didn't asked you to join OBOR, it was your Foreign Minister who showed her reservations first for which China told you to get lost. China don't need India nor your investment. At best what can India do? Invest $500 million like India is doing in Chabahar??

You need China to be part of NSG, China don't need you at all. China will invest $1 trillion in One Belt One Road initiative which equals to 41% of India GDP nominal for 2017.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Again I am telling you its not OROB its OBOR (One Belt One Road). China didn't asked you to join OBOR, it was your Foreign Minister who showed her reservations first for which China told you to get lost. China don't need India nor your investment. At best what can India do? Invest $500 million like India is doing in Chabahar??

You need China to be part of NSG, China don't need you at all. China will invest $1 trillion in One Belt One Road initiative which equals to 41% of India GDP nominal for 2017.

India has all it need from NSG even without joining NSG -- thanks to a certain waiver. So joining NSG is rather customary. Modi and BJP wanted it to prove their metal.
OROB or OBOR makes no difference, we want neither that road which leads to no where nor that belt. BTW, China does not want India's investment, it is the other way round. China wants to invest in India so it can soak up all the extra production which has happened in China in last few decades.

 

[BetterPakistan]

India has all it need from NSG even without joining NSG. So joining NSG is rather customary. Modi and BJP wanted it to prove their metal.
OROB or OBOR makes no difference, we want neither that road which leads to no where nor that belt. BTW, China does not want India's investment, it is the other way round. China wants to invest in India so it can soak up all the extra production which has happened in China in last few decades.

Joining the NSG will give India better access to low-cost, clean nuclear energy -- important for its economic growth. Nuclear power is one way India, the third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could cut its emissions and reduce air pollution from coal-fired power plants.
NSG membership would put India on a firmer footing to propose the idea of plutonium trade for its thorium programme that has been waiting in the wings. An early adoption of thorium technology would give India enormous energy independence and security.
Also joining NSG will give India the latest technologies which India don't have.

Modi funding millions of dollars to your agency proved how much does he care about CPEC. Why are you so obsessed with OBOR when you don't have anything to do with it?

China is already the biggest exporter in the world and they (Chinese) are very smart in selling their products, they can sell their products. They don't need to be dependent on India to sell their extra production

 

[Shajida Khan]

Joining the NSG will give India better access to low-cost, clean nuclear energy -- important for its economic growth. Nuclear power is one way India, the third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could cut its emissions and reduce air pollution from coal-fired power plants.

Indian scientists have already come up with AHWR design which minimizes plutonium requirement and breeds U-233 from thorium in-situ. All it needs is U-Pu MOX, which France can easily supply under wavier. Quite a few AHWR are under construction within India.
Also Indian scientists are working on ADS which again requires no plutonium. We are currently among very few countries having this research undertaken.

Joining the NSG will give India better access to low-cost, clean nuclear energy -- important for its economic growth. Nuclear power is one way India, the third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could cut its emissions and reduce air pollution from coal-fired power plants.

Actually India is already rolling back her coal power plants while a certain country is increasing her dependence on Coal. India is replacing Coal with Solar, another source India is rich in and solar panels are cheap from China.

China is already the biggest exporter in the world and they (Chinese) are very smart in selling their products, they can sell their products. They don't need to be dependent on India to sell their extra production

Their smartness only suggests them to sell their excess iron and cement production in India. India wants none of it.

 

[Hindustani78]

For being able to become NSG member India needs only one country who is China. Didn't Modi begged Xi for it in their last meeting?

Chinese are aware that they cant stop Indian Establishment for Civilian Nuclear Business as Indian Establishment is not having proliferation track record unlike other Nucler powers. Prime Minister Modi doesnt have to beg to anyone . Dont under estimate Indian Establishment .

Human being/Insaan is "Ashraf ul Makhluqaat" and in your country the life of a cow is more important than human being. Extremist hindus are killing innocent Muslims just because they are eating meat of cow/buffalos?

Indeed Human beings are Ashraf ul Makhluqaat and the Supreme Creator signs are clearly visible all over the Indus Valley Civilization.

Allah (SWT) is the supreme creator of everything and he has made cow/buffalos meat halal for us.

There are laws for doing Qurbani and have to keep in mind regarding the nations , In Darul Islam , Lambs are being sacrificed as Prophet Muhammed Pbuh have cleared said.

Kamadhenu

Buraq

Joining the NSG will give India better access to low-cost, clean nuclear energy -- important for its economic growth. Nuclear power is one way India, the third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could cut its emissions and reduce air pollution from coal-fired power plants.
NSG membership would put India on a firmer footing to propose the idea of plutonium trade for its thorium programme that has been waiting in the wings. An early adoption of thorium technology would give India enormous energy independence and security.
Also joining NSG will give India the latest technologies which India don't have.

Modi funding millions of dollars to your agency proved how much does he care about CPEC. Why are you so obsessed with OBOR when you don't have anything to do with it?

China is already the biggest exporter in the world and they (Chinese) are very smart in selling their products, they can sell their products. They don't need to be dependent on India to sell their extra production

Indian Establishment will do nuclear business by keeping national interest and here its more or less depend on the big powers to decide. Indian Establishment is having clear foreign policy and we have linked it with Nuclear, Space and other sectors.

 

[BetterPakistan]

Indian scientists have already come up with AHWR design which minimizes plutonium requirement and breeds U-233 from thorium in-situ. All it needs is U-Pu MOX, which France can easily supply under wavier.
Also Indian scientists are working on ADS which again requires no plutonium. We are currently among very few countries having this research undertaken.


Actually India is already rolling back her coal power plants while a certain country is increasing her dependence on Coal. India is replacing Coal with Solar, another source India is rich in and solar panels are cheap from China.



Their smartness only suggests them to sell their excess iron and cement production in India. India wants none of it.

Ufffffffffffff

Indian scientists are working on lot of things from which very few are successful. It took Indian scientists decades to develop a fighter jet named tejas which is still not completed and your own navy is not ready to take it. India don't have that technology for which they can get access to through NSG for which your government is going all over the world.

Certain country? We have developed only two Coal based power plants which will in total produce 1320 MW of electricity which will not be part of 5% of total electricity generation in 2020 or before 2020. India produces 59% of its electricity through Coal. Why I need to teach you everything today??

Chinese imports from India amounted to $16.4 billion or 0.8% of its overall imports, and 4.2% of India's overall exports in 2014. Chinese exports to India amounted to $58.4 billion or 2.3% of its overall exports, and 12.6% of India's overall imports in 2014.

The 10 major commodities exported from China to India were:

1. Electronic equipment: $16 billion
2. Machines, engines, pumps: $9.8 billion
3. Organic chemicals: $6.3 billion
4. Fertilizers: $2.7 billion
5. Iron and steel: $2.3 billion
6. Plastics: $1.7 billion
7. Iron or steel products: $1.4 billion
8. Gems, precious metals, coins: $1.3 billion
9. Ships, boats: $1.3 billion
10. Medical, technical equipment: $1.2 billion

Why are you so excitingly providing me false information?? Better to research first.

Chinese are aware that they cant stop Indian Establishment for Civilian Nuclear Business as Indian Establishment is not having proliferation track record unlike other Nucler powers. Prime Minister Modi doesnt have to beg to anyone . Dont under estimate Indian Establishment .



Indeed Human beings are Ashraf ul Makhluqaat and the Supreme Creator signs are clearly visible all over the Indus Valley Civilization.

There are laws for doing Qurbani and have to keep in mind regarding the nations , In Darul Islam , Lambs are being sacrificed as Prophet Muhammed Pbuh have cleared said.

Kamadhenu

Buraq

Indian Establishment will do nuclear business by keeping national interest and here its more or less depend on the big powers to decide. Indian Establishment is having clear foreign policy and we have linked it with Nuclear, Space and other sectors.

The point was the life of those Muslims whom your government killed just because they were being doubt of eating cows/buffalo meat. Secondly we Muslims have been allowed to eat meat of cow/buffalos and it is halal for us.

Don't drag it to religious conversation because it will take the discussion to somewhere else and don't post these type of photos. The discussion is about cows/buffalos not horses.

I am not a hindu so don't use hinduish terms of cows/buffalos to prove your point.

Yeah, right... Indian Establishment ?

 

[Hindustani78]

The point was the life of those Muslims whom your government killed just because they were being doubt of eating cows/buffalo meat. Secondly we Muslims have been allowed to eat meat of cow/buffalos and it is halal for us.

Don't drag it to religious conversation because it will take the discussion to somewhere else and don't post these type of photos.

Yeah, right... Indian Establishment ?

Indian Government law is clear no slaughter of cows and its linked to religion and even the Arabs are aware that the lambs are sacrificed and its Sunnat of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh.

 

[BetterPakistan]

@Hindustani78

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40404102

http://www.timesnow.tv/india/articl...m-women-lash-out-against-cow-vigilantes/64734

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/cow-terrorism-killed-23-since-2014/articleshow/59378467.cms

Indian Government law is clear no slaughter of cows and its linked to religion and even the Arabs are aware that the lambs are sacrificed and its Sunnat of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh.

I hope sanity prevails. So this is all what I was trying to prove. Life of a cow is more important in India than a human being.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Indian scientists are working on lot of things from which very few are successful. It took Indian scientists decades to develop a fighter jet named tejas which is still not completed and your own navy is not ready to take it. India don't have that technology for which they can get access to through NSG for which your government is going all over the world.

A moment. Did you just confuse Jet Turbine Engine with Nuclear reactor? What do they teach you in Pakistan in science, btw? Water Cars?

Even that delayed jet Tejas is now getting inducted, just like your JF-17. By 2025 there will be around 150 Tejas in the country.

May I ask which NSG technology will help India with Jet Engine development?

FYI Indian are also producing their own automobile engines for example for Tata Bolt. May I ask where is any car engine produced by Pakistani company?

Certain country? We have developed only two Coal based power plants which will in total produce 1320 MW of electricity which will not be part of 5% of total electricity generation in 2020 or before 2020. India produces 59% of its electricity through Coal. Why I need to teach you everything today??

You might want to read your own news paper before teaching me anything.

Pakistan ramps up coal power with Chinese-backed plants

https://www.dawn.com/news/1330812

“Hefty investment under the CPEC project has held out hopes of significantly spiking domestic power generation (by) around 6,000 megawatts by the end of 2018,” Dagha said.

Combined, the projects will eventually generate 16,000 megawatts (MW) of electricity, which the government says is urgently needed.

About three-quarters of the newly generated power will come from coal-powered plants, and the government insists that these will be fitted with the latest technology to reduce pollution and climate-changing emissions."

Three fourth of 16,000 will be around 12,000 MW.

Chinese imports from India amounted to $16.4 billion or 0.8% of its overall imports, and 4.2% of India's overall exports in 2014. Chinese exports to India amounted to $58.4 billion or 2.3% of its overall exports, and 12.6% of India's overall imports in 2014.

The 10 major commodities exported from China to India were:

1. Electronic equipment: $16 billion
2. Machines, engines, pumps: $9.8 billion
3. Organic chemicals: $6.3 billion
4. Fertilizers: $2.7 billion
5. Iron and steel: $2.3 billion
6. Plastics: $1.7 billion
7. Iron or steel products: $1.4 billion
8. Gems, precious metals, coins: $1.3 billion
9. Ships, boats: $1.3 billion
10. Medical, technical equipment: $1.2 billion

Why are you so excitingly providing me false information?? Better to research first.

China needs that 12.6 % to be 50% +. Hence the desperation from their side. China was able to soak up 56 billion dollars worth of goods and service in Pakistan as investments -- mostly inform of long term loans which Pakistani will now be paying back.

China wants 300 billion worth of goods and services to be sold... errr.... invested in India on similar terms. That will help them to move their internal debt out of China and into India there by reducing their own internal debt burden on state owned enterprises. Kapish?

 

[ashok321]

China and India each deploy 3,000 troops Border face-off

What happened to Modi's recent following statement:

Since forty years not a single bullet fired on India/China border.

 

[Shajida Khan]

China and India each deploy 3,000 troops Border face-off

What happened to Modi's recent following statement:

Since forty years not a single bullet fired on India/China border.

There is still no bullet fired. And it is happening on Bhutan/China border and not exactly India China border.

Also will you be kind enough to tell us how is Modi related to murder rate in India. Infact if anything, after he came, murder rate has declined from 2.7 in 2014 to 2.6 in 2015.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/Murder-rate-declining-in-India/article16791696.ece

 

[BetterPakistan]

A moment. Did you just confuse Jet Turbine Engine with Nuclear reactor? What do they teach you in Pakistan in science, btw? Water Cars?

Even that delayed jet Tejas is now getting inducted, just like your JF-13. By 2025 there will be around 150 Tejas in the country.

FYI Indian are also producing their own automobile engines for example for Tata Bolt. May I ask where is any car engine produced by Pakistani company?


You might want to read your own news paper before teaching me anything.

Pakistan ramps up coal power with Chinese-backed plants

https://www.dawn.com/news/1330812



Three fourth of 16,000 will be around 12,000 MW.



China needs that 12.6 % to be 50% +. Hence the desperation from their side. China was able to soak up 56 billion dollars worth of goods and service in Pakistan as investments -- mostly inform of long term loans which Pakistani will now be paying back.

China wants 300 billion worth of goods and services to be sold... errr.... invested in India on similar terms. That will help them to move their internal debt out of China and into India there by reducing their own internal debt burden on state owned enterprises. Kapish?

I didn't confused a fighter jet with a nuclear reactor. Your response is an indication of immaturity. I just tried to tell you what kind of scientists your country have. All of your nuclear missiles failed many times before they actually got operational. This time I am giving you example which you can pair up with a nuclear reactor. Happy?

We are taught the first thing to not show off and complete all projects in time nor like you who took more than 3 decades to develop a fighter jet which is still crap. I was a kid since I am hearing that Indian military will have 150 tejas by ---- year

Again you are wrong its not JF-13 its JF-17 or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong.

Starting from nuclear reactor and at the end you are coming on car engine??? This is what you are all about?? Let me answer it in a military way after all I am a lover of Pak Military. in 1990 both India & Pakistan started their tank project named as Al Khalid (Pak) & Arjun (India) and now after 27 years Pakistan army is successfully running more than 420 Al Khalid and India is running a 100+ arjun tank about whom the Indian army is still complaining. and importing T-90 to fulfill gap of tanks.

So you searched a lot and end up coming with dawn news ??? Very important source you got, I must say.
It was planned initially but mostly projects haven't started yet and they won't start either. Only one 660 MW sahiwal plant is operational and a 100-200 MW at most from IPPs, no more than this.
Thirdly, Pakistan is currently producing more than 18,000 MW of electricity and the prodution will cross 25,000 in the next few years mostly from Hydro, Nuclear, Solar & Wind not coal. There's a big difference in planning & implementation.


Yeah, loans right ?

One one side you shared a news of dawn which says Chinese backed plants and on the other end you call it a loan??? From that $62 bn only $11 bn is loan between China & Pakistan other than this all is private investment, A few days back India signed billions of dollars loan agreement with Exim Bank of South Korea sorry the supa power India signed for billions of dollar loan

 

[Shajida Khan]

I didn't confused a fighter jet with a nuclear reactor. Your response is an indication of immaturity. I just tried to tell you what kind of scientists your country have. All of your nuclear missiles failed many times before they actually got operational. This time I am giving you example which you can pair up with a nuclear reactor. Happy?

Wait what? Nuclear missile and nuclear reactor. Did you really just saw the word nuclear and thought they are related? MAN!!!! This is why they are called Ballistic missiles. They are rockets and have nothing like 'nuclear reactor' in them. Really they teach you nothing about science there in Pakistan. Hint for you. There is nothing nuclear in a Nuclear missile besides the bomb. So ... Nuclear missile and Nuclear reactor having nothing in common.

We are taught the first thing to not show off and complete all projects in time nor like you who took more than 3 decades to develop a fighter jet which is still crap. I was a kid since I am hearing that Indian military will have 150 tejas by ---- year

Actually more like you didn't even try starting the project in the first place. Where is the question of showing off. JF-17 is a Chinese plane.
Airframe - Chinese
Engine - Russian
Avionics - Chinese
Missiles - Chinese, South African
Bombs - Chinese
Ejection Seat - Chinese
Glass cockpit - Chinese
Mission computer - Chinese
Radar - Chinese

Tejas :

Airframe - Indian
Engine - American
Avionics - Indian
Missiles - Russian, Indian (ASTRA), European
Bombs - Indian
Ejection Seat - American
Glass Cockpit - Indian
Mission Computer - Indian
Radar - Israeli

Starting from nuclear reactor and at the end you are coming on car engine??? This is what you are all about?? Let me answer it in a military way after all I am a lover of Pak Military. in 1990 both India & Pakistan started their tank project named as Al Khalid (Pak) & Arjun (India) and now after 27 years Pakistan army is successfully running more than 420 Al Khalid and India is running a 100+ arjun tank about whom the Indian army is still complaining. and importing T-90 to fulfill gap of tanks.

And yet you have no car engine of your own... Heck you folks don't even have a bike engine of your own... so much for Alkaloid. Your army did'nt make a fuss about Al Kahlid because they knew, they will not get anything better for there is no money in treasury.

So you searched a lot and end up coming with dawn news ??? Very important source you got, I must say.
It was planned initially but mostly projects haven't started yet and they won't start either. Only one 660 MW sahiwal plant is operational and a 100-200 MW at most from IPPs, no more than this.
Thirdly, Pakistan is currently producing more than 18,000 MW of electricity and the prodution will cross 25,000 in the next few years mostly from Hydro, Nuclear, Solar & Wind not coal. There's a big difference in planning & implementation.

The article is from May 2017. Do you have a source to support and substantiate that those projects will never be started? BTW, Dawn is your own Pakistani news paper, and I have no reason to doubt it.

One one side you shared a news of dawn which says Chinese backed plants and on the other end you call it a loan??? From that $62 bn only $11 bn is loan between China & Pakistan other than this all is private investment, A few days back India signed billions of dollars loan agreement with Exim Bank of South Korea sorry the supa power India signed for billions of dollar loan

You do realize that Pakistan is obliged to use only Chinese good and services under CPEC, right? Also for those private investment, who is the guarantor of returns? AFAIK, China needed a guarantee and GoP made it. So if those projects do not generate revenue, GoP will tax Pakistani to provide guaranteed returns.

 

[vikata]

Well, kid you should enhance your English first so that the next guy can understand it. Secondly CSF is that amount which was the cost of operations against militants/operations led by our forces and the rent for bases of ours which was used. Begging is what India do. India is the biggest recipient of foreign aid.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-of-US-economic-aid/articleshow/48093123.cms

Jaa jaa kr apni bht hi kam information mai izafa kar..

here comes the respectable citizen of a nation ,which seems to be" on rent" for almost everything.
from RENTING nation to the RANTING nation,a journey worth remembering .