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[enquencher]

Is it true that all these planes are bein purchased by china for paf.pdf experts seem to suggest that.this will end pakistanis never ending quest for su 35.
One question y cant russia transfer it directly to pakistan if so.whom are they afraid of.
And if china have best of weapons in the world then y are they buying su 35 from russia.
@randomradio

 

[Brainsucker]

Why not? SU-35S is a good fighter.

 

[Beast]

Is it true that all these planes are bein purchased by china for paf.pdf experts seem to suggest that.this will end pakistanis never ending quest for su 35.
One question y cant russia transfer it directly to pakistan if so.whom are they afraid of.
And if china have best of weapons in the world then y are they buying su 35 from russia.
@randomradio

Russian do not want to be directly accuse by Indian if the Su-35 transfer to PAF from China. There is nothing India can do to China.

Russia will then have a excuse. "It's the scheming Chinese who do that, not us!"

 

[mike2000 is back]

Why to struggle more
Plaa should kidnap couple of advance engine engineers and make them develop if they don't get through officially

Lool You are funny.
I thought Russia and China were close allies? Why will Russia refuse to sell them it's advanced engines, they should help their ally out seeing they are struggling in this field . Allies ought to be helping each other out, at least to counter the imperialist west.

 

[X-2.]

Lool You are funny.
I thought Russia and China were close allies? Why will Russia refuse to sell them it's advanced engines, they should help their ally out seeing they are struggling in this field . Allies ought to be helping each other out, at least to counter the imperialist west.

Russians are ismoney mongors too
International relations always base on National interest
Second sanction on Russia require business to sustain balance against USA or west

 

[Beast]

Russia doesnot want to be accused? Do u imply that russians are afraid of bein accused by india.
If that was the case then jf 17 would be without engines.
What i understand by the purchase is first chinise planes are not upto the mark.second these will be used for reverse engenieering.

Do you realize the RD-93 engine was sold to China and it was Chinese who then indirectly sold to PAF.

Lool You are funny.
I thought Russia and China were close allies? Why will Russia refuse to sell them it's advanced engines, they should help their ally out seeing they are struggling in this field . Allies ought to be helping each other out, at least to counter the imperialist west.

The problem is we do not even want their 117S engine. The WS-10B with 14k tons thrust debut.

 

[Imran Khan]

only 4 of them i was thinking 40 should be on order

 

[terranMarine]

China's new formed company with 95.000 employees will make great breakthroughs in engine tech. Mikey boy has no clue that his UK is being left behind by China in many areas

 

[randomradio]

Is it true that all these planes are bein purchased by china for paf.pdf experts seem to suggest that.this will end pakistanis never ending quest for su 35.
One question y cant russia transfer it directly to pakistan if so.whom are they afraid of.
And if china have best of weapons in the world then y are they buying su 35 from russia.
@randomradio

The Chinese are buying Russian weapons for their own purposes.

And it is not clear why the Chinese are buying Russian weapons.

 

[monitor]

In Demand: Why China Purchases Russian Su-35 Fighter Jets

© AFP 2016/ JOHANNES EISELE Military & Intelligence 20:50 07.02.2016(updated 20:53 07.02.2016) Get short URL 44287071178 China’s purchase of 24 new Russian Su-35 aircraft is essential for Beijing. The Chinese Air Force will not only get new jets that could affect the balance of power in the Taiwan Strait, but may also allow the Chinese military to assess the progress and development of J-11. The purchase of 24 Russian Su-35 in the amount of about $2 billion is the second largest transaction between the Russian and Chinese militaries, the Carnegie Moscow Center wrote. A Su-34 multifunctional strike bomber of the Russian Aerospace Force takes off from the Hemeimeem Air Base in the Syrian province of Latakia. © Sputnik/ Dmitry Vinogradov Customers ‘Lining Up’ to Buy Russian Su-34, Su-35 Aircraft A year ago, a contract was signed for the supply of four battalions of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems totaling around 1.9 billion dollars. The negotiations had begun in 2010-2011 and by 2014 many contentious issues had been resolved. It has been reported that the deliveries of the equipment could begin in 2016 and the transfer of the main parts of the equipment may take place in 2017-2018. Looking at the advantages of the purchase of Russian aircraft by China, it seems that the Chinese are currently looking for additional ways of developing their combat aircraft capabilities. As noted by the publication, between the two Chinese aircraft that are being developed at the moment, the J-20 and J-31, only the J-20 may be viewed as a fifth generation fighter. Multi-mission fighter SU-35 Sputnik Indonesian Defense Chief Plans April Russia Visit Eyeing Su-35 Purchase Hence, the J-31 uses stealth technology, but its main units and components are borrowed from the 4+ generation fighters such as the J-10B, J-16 and FC-1, the Carnegie Moscow Center wrote. As for J-20, which embodies the full potential of the Chinese aviation industry, the aircraft’s potential combat readiness is not very clear at the moment. This is supported by all the available capability of similar technologies available in the US and other countries. The publication taking note of the Russian Su-35, however, mentioned that the new jet is a maximum advancement of the earlier fighter jet the Su-27. Therefore, the acquisition of the Su-35 would allow the Chinese military to assess the progress and development of J-11. The acquisition may act as a guide showing the Russian approach to problem solving in stealth technology making it easier to further enhance the capabilities of the Chinese aviation. It is probable that with the supply of 24 Su-35’s more contracts for units or various components for the new Chinese fighters, as well as technology transfer and R & D for the benefit of Chinese customers, may follow. For Russia, the successful delivery of the fighter jets to China will further improve its position in foreign markets. It is expected that the next buyer of the Russian Su-35 may be Indonesia.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/20160207/1034376032/china-russia-fighter-jets-purchase.html

Whats funny here you too have the offer .

 

[Deino]

Guys ... please stay on topic and regardless all troll-attempts by some strange members, there is really no need to bring again the Tejas or Kaveri on the agenda. It is so much far off ... and only some sort of troll-feeding, so better leave it.

Therefore .... thread cleaned !

Deino

Is it true that all these planes are bein purchased by china for paf. pdf experts seem to suggest that.this will end pakistanis never ending quest for su 35.
One question y cant russia transfer it directly to pakistan if so.whom are they afraid of.
And if china have best of weapons in the world then y are they buying su 35 from russia.
@randomradio

pdf-experts ???
Sorry to say so, but please simply forget this stuff. These birds will end in China - even if the reasons for this might be not clear to all - and will never be delivered to Pakistan ... these guys who are suggesting this are fan-boys and no experts.

Why should China buy the latest Russian toy and re-sale it later to Pakistan? That will only damage an established and working relationship and if Pakistan wants these birds, then they can buy them on their own even if I don't know if they can afford them.

As such .... these are pure wet-dreams similar to such posts like Pakistan should get a few H-6K for free, China should gift two squadrons of J-10C to the PAF, ... Pakistan will acquire the Eurofighter soon or join development of the TFX.

Deino

 

[Mentee]

Why they don't use dual racks on their jets ? I mean the racks shall considerably increase the payload.

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

The 3/3++ fighter is not enough，we need a large number of excellent fighter, surrounding military threat too bad!

 

[Deino]

Another issue ... if these 4 aircraft are to be delivered already this year, then they must be close to being finished ... do we have any images showing them on the production line ?

 

[Brainsucker]

It just... why only 4? Didn't China order 24 of them? I doubt that "4" is the limit of Russia production capacity. That's why I say," Why only 4?" If the production rate continue like this, it will finish in 6 years.