China again calls for political solution to Syrian crisis

[TaiShang]

China again calls for political solution to Syrian crisis

2015-10-01

China again called for a political solution to the crisis in Syria as Russia, the United States and the United Nations hastened diplomatic efforts to bring peace to the war-torn country.

"China noticed the initiatives pushed forward by the parties involved. We are open to all the initiatives as long as they are conducive to a political settlement on the Syrian crisis," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hong Lei said on Wednesday.

UN envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura visited Syria earlier this month for talks with top Syrian officials to find a political solution to the Syria crisis.

"China stresses five points in resolving the Syrian issue," Hong said.

First, the Syrian crisis must be resolved through political means, with no option for military use, and all the parties should express their expectations through dialogue and negotiation.

Second, the Syrian people have the say in the future of their nation and political transition in the country can only be led by its people.

Third, an inclusive political process must be promoted, and equal and open dialogue should be started as soon as possible.

Fourth, national reconciliation and unity must be achieved in Syria.

Finally, humanitarian assistance must be delivered to Syria and its neighboring countries.

In addition, the anti-terrorism situation in Syria should also be considered, Hong said.

The spokesperson urged parties concerned to find a "middle way" that met Syria's national conditions and the interests of all parties, to bring about a proper resolution.

"China will continue to work with the international community to strive for the settlement of the issue," he said.

According to the UN Refugee Agency, over 4 million Syrian refugees have had to flee the country to date, most of them finding refuge in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and North Africa.

 

[EAsian]

basically he means that it's not China's business.

 

[Aepsilons]

basically he means that it's not China's business.

Not necessarily so. It means that China is calling for increased humanitarian aid to the region rather than just purely militaristic-based solvency measures. If you have not noticed, during President Xi Jinping's address to the UN General Assembly, he noted that China will provide the United Nations $1 Billion in humanitarian aid-measures , especially in areas that the UN Security Council deems pertinent to global security. China, as a partner of the United States in the war against Global Terrorism, as per APEC Deliberations, is a contributing member by providing immense capital to humanitarian needs, and has gone as dispatching defense forces to relocate and dispatch civilians to their homes via the PLAN.

A political and domestic-based solution to the Syrian Civil War is the only answer. The Syrian people, themselves, must be the writers of their destiny. We can only help them by supporting humanitarian aid when necessary, as well as even support or air strikes on this apocalyptic travesty known as ISIS.

 

[TaiShang]

Not necessarily so. It means that China is calling for increased humanitarian aid to the region rather than just purely militaristic-based solvency measures. If you have not noticed, during President Xi Jinping's address to the UN General Assembly, he noted that China will provide the United Nations $1 Billion in humanitarian aid-measures , especially in areas that the UN Security Council deems pertinent to global security. China, as a partner of the United States in the war against Global Terrorism, as per APEC Deliberations, is a contributing member by providing immense capital to humanitarian needs, and has gone as dispatching defense forces to relocate and dispatch civilians to their homes via the PLAN.

A political and domestic-based solution to the Syrian Civil War is the only answer. The Syrian people, themselves, must be the writers of their destiny. We can only help them by supporting humanitarian aid when necessary, as well as even support or air strikes on this apocalyptic travesty known as ISIS.

Also keep in perspective that China has vetoed two times a US-drafted resolution to militarily intervene in Syria.

In this case, China is not a partner of the US in the war against global terrorism as a blind follower. It has its own considerations and conceptualizations.

China also aware that the US still hosts some anti-China separatists terrorists, including the World Uighur Congress.

 

[Aepsilons]

Also keep in perspective that China has vetoed two times a US-drafted resolution to militarily intervene in Syria.

In this case, China is not a partner of the US in the war against global terrorism as a blind follower. It has its own considerations and conceptualizations.

China also aware that the US still hosts some anti-China separatists terrorists, including the World Uighur Congress.

Yes, well i suppose when we analyze the reasoning for China's non-support of the US drafted resolution for military solvency in Syria was in context to the fact that it was a Syrian Civil War. Al-Assad, by all means, is the legitimate leader of Syria since he is the elected leader of the country , and thus it is contradictive to the UN General Charter in involving in a Civil War of a country with a legitimate leader in place.

In fact these ISIS members are actually rift raft who were part of the forces that were defeated by the United States and Allied Forces in the War in Iraq. ISIS, or ISIL have reconstrituted itself from its endosporic constitution after the power vacuum when the US left Iraq. So considering the theatrical failure in the Iraq Theater, there were grave concerns by pertinent national powers in regards to having another military solvency measure in Syria. This is one of the reasons why Russia and China were against actual troop deployment to Syria in the first place. The only way to find long lasting solution to this political situation is by supporting the legitimate government, finding practical political measures, as well as providing necessary humanitarian aid to the refugees.

I suppose we must consider the UN general charter of non-intervention in a civil war. Intervention only during the cessation of civil war. There can be no cessation until ISIS is destroyed, this is why Russia's recent contribution in air strikes, in conjunction with US-led coalition air strikes, should be welcomed and in tandem. But no boots on the ground. Let the Syrian Military take that burden of responsibility.

 

[TaiShang]

Yes, well i suppose when we analyze the reasoning for China's non-support of the US drafted resolution for military solvency in Syria was in context to the fact that it was a Syrian Civil War. Al-Assad, by all means, is the legitimate leader of Syria since he is the elected leader of the country , and thus it is contradictive to the UN General Charter in involving in a Civil War of a country with a legitimate leader in place.

Very good points that reflect the argument of the Chinese delegate at the time.

Besides, practically speaking, a solution that does not take into account the Syrian government and its leader is a none-solution. Obama and Hollande will come to understand that. What Turks or Saudis think does not matter. They have to do what they have been told to do.

In fact these ISIS members are actually rift raft who were part of the forces that were defeated by the United States and Allied Forces in the War in Iraq. ISIS, or ISIL have reconstrituted itself from its endosporic constitution after the power vacuum when the US left Iraq. So considering the theatrical failure in the Iraq Theater, there were grave concerns by pertinent national powers in regards to having another military solvency measure in Syria. This is one of the reasons why Russia and China were against actual troop deployment to Syria in the first place. The only way to find long lasting solution to this political situation is by supporting the legitimate government, finding practical political measures, as well as providing necessary humanitarian aid to the refugees.

This statement would break a lot of US, Saudi and Turkish heart at the UN Summit.

Especially, Turkish preacher, well, sorry, President.

I suppose we must consider the UN general charter of non-intervention in a civil war. Intervention only during the cessation of civil war. There can be no cessation until ISIS is destroyed, this is why Russia's recent contribution in air strikes, in conjunction with US-led coalition air strikes, should be welcomed and in tandem. But no boots on the ground. Let the Syrian Military take that burden of responsibility.

The US and Russian side keep each other informed of their actions to prevent undesired accidents. Other than this, Russian and US/French operations are not in coordination with Russia's and vice versa.

Russia, however, has been in coordination with Iraq, Syria and Iranian governments. I guess, in Iraq, they have established a joint command center to streamline and carry out joint operations.

I heard there will a huge sweeping campaign against terrorist factions (primarily ISIS and al-Nusra) in coordination with Syrian, Iraqi armies, as well as Hezbollah in the Lebanese border areas -- within weeks.

In fact, Russia is said to have hit certain targets/groups that once received US help and blessing. The Syrian Arab Army has killed one of McCain's buddies that had posed with him. The rest will sure be eliminated because Russia is now providing full intelligence and satellite assistance.

For Russia, all outside armed entities/militia in Syria (Uighurs, Uzbeks, Chechnians, Turks, Saudis, etc) are terrorists and legitimate targets.

This is Russia's interpretation of responsibility to protect: Protecting a people and its legitimate government from foreign-backed armed groups.

 

[Beidou2020]

Nope. Totally disagree. Disappointing remarks by China in failing to support Russia in its bombing of terrorists at the request of the legitimate government of Syria (Assad).

Political solution when dealing with terrorists? Sorry but political solution cannot be used when dealing with terrorists.

China has shown weakness at its inability to destroy the domestic terrorists in Xinjiang. China should learn from Russia on how to deal with terrorists.

China must fully support Russia. CCTV News will take its pro-American viewpoint and bash Russia as usual.

RT has been fully supporting China in many things but CCTV News has not supported Russia. If anything CCTV News has supported America.

I fully support Russia. 100000000000%

 

[TaiShang]

Nope. Totally disagree. Disappointing remarks by China in failing to support Russia in its bombing of terrorists at the request of the legitimate government of Syria (Assad).

Political solution when dealing with terrorists? Sorry but political solution cannot be used when dealing with terrorists.

China has shown weakness at its inability to destroy the domestic terrorists in Xinjiang. China should learn from Russia on how to deal with terrorists.

China must fully support Russia. CCTV News will take its pro-American viewpoint and bash Russia as usual.

RT has been fully supporting China in many things but CCTV News has not supported Russia. If anything CCTV News has supported America.

I fully support Russia. 100000000000%

I guess what China means by political solution is 1) recognizing Assad as the legitimate government of Syria; 2) calling outside powers that support terrorism inside Syria to stop their actions; 3) seeking a broad-based national solution to the crisis in Syria with all and only legitimate actors (peoples of Syria) taking part; 4) absolutely recognizing Syria's territorial integrity (to dampen the wet dreams of some Turkish radical extremists.

Tacitly, China has kept supporting Russia and not only in Syria, but also with respect to the Ukrainian issue.

But, at the moment, I would think a more radical involvement would be a bad move for China because Russia is more than capable and has China's full political backing.

As for supporting Russia in bombing terrorists (including the good terrorists of the US, Turkey and KSA), China's foreign ministry made it very clear that China supports the operations and ready to join the efforts.

Apparently, China is concerned about the Uighur terrorists who are now the striking force of the ISIS after Chechen fighters have been depleted a little and I am sure it is trying to ensure that those terrorists are either captured or killed but never come back home as war-hardened jihadists.

Finally, in Xinjiang, the situation has improved considerably as now there is absolute iron fist policy against religious extremism and separatism. It is a multi-leveled effort and very carefully planned.

I agree about CCTV trying to be too much politically-correct. Maybe not CCTV itself, but China should have another international news station in the league of RT.

 

[TheTheoryOfMilitaryLogistics]

At that time,these men said:"China your veto is killing syrians"
Now where are they?

 

[mike2000 is back]

basically he means that it's not China's business.

Exactly, why will it be??

Its Russia, U.K,U.S,France,Syria and even Iran's problem. China has no business in this to be honest. So i think its a wise decision for China to distance itself even more than it is already from this. Since it has no stake whatsoever in Syria, compared to us in the west and Russia. So the humanitarian peaceful talk is just a friendly diplomatic way of sayings : Chiaooo not my business. well played.

Nope. Totally disagree. Disappointing remarks by China in failing to support Russia in its bombing of terrorists at the request of the legitimate government of Syria (Assad).

Political solution when dealing with terrorists? Sorry but political solution cannot be used when dealing with terrorists.

China has shown weakness at its inability to destroy the domestic terrorists in Xinjiang. China should learn from Russia on how to deal with terrorists.

China must fully support Russia. CCTV News will take its pro-American viewpoint and bash Russia as usual.

RT has been fully supporting China in many things but CCTV News has not supported Russia. If anything CCTV News has supported America.

I fully support Russia. 100000000000%

Ironically I agree only with the bold part of your comment. lol

However, i don't think China is wrong in distancing itself from this conflict, since it has no business/stake in it. Only china's 'friend' Russia does. So why get involve. If you know your leaders, you will of course expect China to stay away from this, since they are very conservative/reserved/averse to any risks unlike Russia who has always been an aggressive proactive power much like the U.K/U.S/France. Reason Russia is a far bigger threat to us than China can ever be, since China is still a passive power, which isn't something bad.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The solution to Syria can only come from themselves.

Foreigners can bomb the entire region to dust but it will not solve the underlying problems, they will still be fighting each other in the dust.

 

[70U63]

Nothing much can be done when some countries openly provide financial aid and weapons to so called moderate rebel, while those rebel might trade some to those so called highly motivated freedom fighters.
Keep this topic hot, and everyone will forget about the refugee crisis in europe.

 

[cnleio]

American Doctor say to the patient: "Freedom ! Increase stimulants ..."
Russian Doctor say to the patient: " Virus infection ! Surgical operation ..."
Chinese Doctor say to the patient: "Terminal Cancer, Take care ..."

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At that time,these men said:"China your veto is killing syrians"
Now where are they?

LOL ... i love those stupid cannon fodders .

 

[TaiShang]

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At that time,these men said:"China your veto is killing syrians"
Now where are they?

These are partly Syrian diaspora and partly those Saudi and other Gulf rich diaspora along with certain right wing radical segments of the white US people.

They are terrorist sympathizers. Russia has been frying their close allies in Syria, including ISIS, Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham and free Syrian army terrorists.

However, i don't think China is wrong in distancing itself from this conflict, since it has no business/stake in it. Only china's 'friend' Russia does. So why get involve. If you know your leaders, you will of course expect China to stay away from this, since they are very conservative/reserved/averse to any risks unlike Russia who has always been an aggressive proactive power much like the U.K/U.S/France. Reason Russia is a far bigger threat to us than China can ever be, since China is still a passive power, which isn't something bad.

China is involved. But in its own way. Russia is more than capable of annihilating Western supported terrorists in Syria militarily. And China provides all the required political support, including at the very top of international governance, UNSC.

China and Russia, in this sense, is the two facets of the alternative global order. This is just like how you constructed your own Western order. At times, US or Britain is involved militarily and others provide political support.

This Syrian anti-terrorism war is in fact a very significant indicator of the rise of an alternative order spearheaded by China and Russia, with each mobilizing their own capabilities to achieve certain geopolitical ends.

I guess you should be concerned but if the West feels alright, that's good for us.

The solution to Syria can only come from themselves.

Foreigners can bomb the entire region to dust but it will not solve the underlying problems, they will still be fighting each other in the dust.

This is exactly Chinese and Russian proposal. The task for great power is to clean and stop foreign terrorist mercenaries (as Russia does now). The task to bring a final solution to the civil war falls on the Syrian peoples themselves -- real Syrian people holding Syrian passports, not Uzbek, Arab, Uighur or Chechen terrorists imported through Turkey and Jordan.

 

[cnleio]

Russian fighters air strick in the sky, Assad and Iran's men ground combat, Russia & China weapons aid to Assad ... what a wonderful day !

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