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Chief of Army Staff | General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

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Strike hard, strike deep. Take out those who are terrorists. Then take out those who shelter them.

Well, the problem with that is the strategy cycle, and the OODA(Observe,-> Orient->,Decide->,Act) loop. I have a nice quote from an article on what the German war machine called Schwerpunkt.. According to the well known strategist(and pilot) John Boyd Schwerpunkt, Schwerpunkt
"represents a unifying medium that provides a directed way to tie initiative of many
subordinate actions with superior intent as a basis to diminish friction and compress time."

"In effective organizations, Schwerpunkt connects vibrant OODA loops that are operating
concurrently at several levels. Those close to the action stick to tactical loops, and their
supervisors travel in operational loops, while leaders navigate much broader strategic and
political loops. The loops inform each other: If everything is clicking, feedback from the
tactical loops will guide decisions at higher loops and vice versa.”


Only if this true will the PA be able to execute the strike hard and deep strategy, or for pinpoint kills.
If any of those loops are out of sync and/or if the OODA loop in totality is out of sync.. then the effectiveness of such a strategy is null and void.
 
I would have hope on the contrary, it should show leadership or get out of the way -- Mr. Gen. Kiyani's repeated messages are that the Army be indemnified, no politician in Pakistan can realistically do that - in any other country a state of emergency would have been declared, but in Pakistan politicians are afraid that once done, the Army will refuse to go back to the abrracks anbd will instead create yet another "emergency", this time to go after India while creating the ground internally for the return of the Jamaat and the sectarians.

the only thing is that their avarice know no bounds from the storming of the supreme court, the civilian chiaf martial law administrator they all are scumbags they want no limits, not even the appearance of one, on their rape [yes they are literally involved in this heinous and cowardly crime, loot and plunder...that is the only problem...be honest ...when they were at loggerehads i.e when there was a balance of power between presidency and prime minister and the two did not like each other, COAS was appointed by default on merit and no coups occurred- witness kakar, Asif nawaz, karamat....when they appointed people they thought would be lackeys [i.e. of weak moral character [they would not oppose loot and plunder], they got their just desserts....karamat was dismissed because he made a expressed a legitimate concern about national security but he left quietly despite nawaz's obnoxious behavior-becasue he was appointed on merit--and nawaz appointed the traitor pervez musharaf and got his desserts---although pervex never had the guts to take ay real action....
 
Monday, August 19, 2013


Guessing game as Kayani prepares to retire


ISLAMABAD: In a nation long plagued by military coups, the question of who will replace Pakistan’s all-powerful army chief has taken on new urgency this year as the country tries to shake off the legacy of decades of military dictatorship.

General Ashfaq Kayani, arguably the most powerful man in the nuclear-armed country, is expected to step down after six years in November – presenting the new premier with the toughest of choices yet since coming to power in May.

The army has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its history since independence in 1947. But even during periods of civilian rule, the army has set security and foreign policy.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif says he wants to disentangle the military from politics and he has taken over the foreign affairs and defence portfolios in an apparent show of determination to wrest those responsibilities from the army.

But the military is unlikely to relinquish its hold at such a sensitive time. As Western forces prepare to withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of next year, Pakistan is striving to prevent old rival India from increasing its influence there.

Illustrating the difficulties Nawaz might face in setting foreign policy, his bid to improve ties with India has been undermined by violence between Indian and Pakistani forces in the disputed Kashmir region.

Nevertheless, the Pakistani military has meddled less in politics under Kayani, earning him a reputation as a pragmatic leader willing to ease the military’s grip on political affairs and publicly endorse democracy. Nawaz, himself ousted in a military coup in 1999, has a difficult relationship with the army, and picking Kayani’s successor could be the defining moment of his second term.

“It’s not just that Nawaz wants someone he can trust and who he can use to neutralise the army’s political role,” one retired senior military official told Reuters. “The army also wants someone who will be able to work with Nawaz.”

The job has been at the centre of a drawn-out guessing game and officials would not speculate publicly on it. But in private interviews with army officers, politicians and diplomats, several names have emerged as possible contenders.

Those include Lieutenant General Rashad Mahmood, the current chief of general staff, Lieutenant General Tariq Khan, who is considered pragmatic on US relations, and Lieutenant General Haroon Aslam, the most senior official after Kayani. Some have even floated the idea that Kayani – whose term was extended for three years in 2010 to the discontent of some of the top brass climbing the ranks below him – might end up staying in the job for another three years.

Kayani, a chain-smoking, unsmiling man known for his low-key manner, is dubbed the “Quiet General” of Pakistani politics. His public statements in support of Pakistan’s transition to democracy have earned him respect in the West.

In a speech just before the May election, Kayani said a bad democracy was better than the worst kind of dictatorship. And yet his words hardly concealed a warning that the army’s support for democracy would not be available forever.

“Everyone says that under Kayani the army is now transformed and we can trust in its democratic credentials. But let’s not jump the gun,” said a source in Nawaz’s administration.

“One era of soft military leadership does not make for a lasting legacy. The civilians will have to work hard to make sure everyone knows their limits.”

But even under Kayani some generals have grumbled quietly over the softer approach, and a new army chief might feel pressure to exert his authority over the civilians. This could set the military on a collision course with Nawaz again, like in 1999 when he was overthrown by General Pervez Musharraf and jailed. Just a year earlier, Nawaz had picked Musharraf as his new army chief.

“There are no guarantees the current status quo will last beyond Kayani,” said one diplomat in Islamabad.

Criticising the top brass has long been taboo. But that too has changed after the Supreme Court ruled last year that the military must stop interfering in politics, eroding the generals’ untouchable status in the eyes of the public.

The army’s standing also took a hit over a secret 2011 operation by US forces to kill Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad. Ordinary Pakistanis saw it as a violation of sovereignty that the army had failed to prevent.Technically, Kayani has to come up with a shortlist of three candidates and send it to Nawaz for approval. In reality, Nawaz may not have much choice but he will at least try to strike a semblance of balance, officials say.

“A super assertive new chief whose first priority is to win back the former glory of his institution and a prime minister who likes being the boss and won’t share the spotlight with anyone. That’s an interesting combination,” said one official close to outgoing President Asif Ali Zardari.

“The new crop of generals are not even remotely as patient as (Kayani) when it comes to the screw-ups of civilian leaders.” reuters
 
My criticisms on Gen Kiyani are two.

After the attack on the GHQ; his first priority should have been to cleanse the Army of all the extremist inroads.

Armed forces should be completely a-political. Either it is Pakistan or Hizbe Tahrir/ Jamaat Islami etc. You cannot have divided loyalties in the armed forces, whereas subsequent events suggest that there is still a section of PA officers & ratings who directly or indirectly sympathize with the fundamentalist ideology. Therefore PA’s will & capacity to combat Taliban & Al-Qaida successfully is doubtful.

Fact that OBL was living in Abbottabad for 6 years without PA Chief’s knowledge is a gross intelligence failure. DG MI reports directly to COAS and the ‘Buck’ stops at the Chief. After the Abbottabad debacle, Gen Kiyani should have accepted the responsibility and offered to resign. This he did not do. Instead he engineered memo-gate scandal to implicate Zardari & his crony Hussein Haqqani. Rightly or wrongly, this implies lack of spine and prompted Sheikh Rashid to call
Army leadership ‘Homeopathic Generals’ on TV.

Think Kiyani will go down as a competent but nothing special in the annals of PA Chiefs.
 
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He is scared as next three in line are Gorillas LOL. Must be considering extension as he may not be able get more obedient COAS.
 
This is CRAZY.... and it MUST NOT happen..... is there no body with the same posture, abilities, experience, and "cool-minded" in the group of 20 odd in Pak Army?
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if we cannot see the FG retire, bump him up to CJSC and nominate a new CoAS. the army needs 'new direction'.
 
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if we cannot see the FG retire, bump him up to CJSC and nominate a new CoAS. the army needs 'new direction'.

That would be unfair for the ceremonial post, HE must go and let others take the helm. Army is the only institution that has credibility according to the public. It has now became mandatory that fresh blood takes control, otherwise eyes will start rolling on how the army is being run.
 
He is scared as next three in line are Gorillas LOL. Must be considering extension as he may not be able get more obedient COAS.

well he could always go six down the line like zulfiqar did in 1976 and suffer the consequences!
 
well he could always go six down the line like zulfiqar did in 1976 and suffer the consequences!
Bottom Line?
Goose is Cooked anyways :laughcry:
 
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