Time to get serious. You dont have to post pictures to impress me. I have access to some information too, dont you think? But I will call it a spade
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@Bilal Khan 777 ,
I did not really wish to comment here to correct gigantic fallacies being tossed around as "facts". I feel that we should not feed trolls, any Indian who wishes to derail the thread by posting irrelevant information should be warned and banned. But since you choose to reply to an Indian troll with your own, I feel obliged to correct a few fallacies.
LCA is completely a French design. Don't tell a life long fighter pilot what he saw from his own eyes in France is incorrect. Regardless, thats not the issue here. JF17 itself is a Russian derived design. The issue is that LCA is late, and the emerging developments have far superseded the original designs, or the 20 design updates it has gone through. It was not till the US warmed up to the Indians with the Engine and FBW that it could even fly. Its just too late, and IAF will opt for for a more proven platform from elsewhere for its requirement. Any contract for the local LCA would be just face saving for the Billions of dollars wasted on these superb R&D examples(that you amply demonstrate) with nothing to show: No operational squadrons and no field deployment.
LCA is not french at all! Not unless you "assume" french consultancy to be equal to french designing the entire planform, doing the wind tunnel tests etc etc. There are various reasons for the same-
1) All the wind tunnel tests were performed at NAL, ADA and IISc. If you notice something, the scaled models for wind tunnel tests that is used to obtain various aerodynamic coefficients, stability derivatives, damping derivatives against AoA, side slip angle etc were performed and evaluated by Indian teams at NAL. I can furnish papers, should you require more rigorous proof.
2) Secondly, numerous LCA designs were tried before settling onto the double cranked delta configuration. Various designs ranging from- (a) Simple delta. (b) Static canard to (c) all movable canards were passed through numerous wind tunnel tests throughout late 80s and early 90s.
3) What you "conveniently" ignored are the facts that -
(a) French backed out of the program in very early stages itself and
(b) US never really offered a digital FBW for relaxed static stability requirement. I would stress RSS(relaxed static stability) because the design requirement for such a control can not be easily met with gain scheduling strategies that some other fighters employ like the Chinese JF-17.
In case you are totally ignored there is a CLAW team at NAL that has done really "wonderful" work related to control design of the plane. They have got an "iron-bird" facility which is like HILS(hardware in loop simulation) wherein they can test integrated(quad redundant) flight control system with all the actuators and sensors. The current director of ADA is a Btech from IIT Bombay and PhD US/Canada. He was one of the driving forces behind the digital FBW and has plethora of research papers in top journals like AIAA.
4) LCA is being inducted into the forces at a rate of 8per annum, which is being augmented to 16/annum. All the deficiencies paid media in India tirelessly highlight have been gradually overcome.
Now if this doesnt count as organic R&D then what does? I can understand your concerns that in this en devour they didnt do anything revolutionary or that most of the technology already existed somewhere else, however let me point out that, the main was to design not only the aircraft but various sub systems at home.
The real reason for the delays is entirely different--one that you have conveniently ignored. It was poor technology management and un coordinated R&D efforts across various organizations. Sadly folks responsible for such mis management rarely gets flaked.
The only way DRDO seems to succeed when they take a kit of material, like from PIT poland(a TWT based PESA 3D radar, already obsolete and expensive technology Poland is replacing), and name it after Indian Mythical Characters. What a fraud with the Indian people. Yes, in some cases you also use local vehicles, which shows great promise to the future transportation industry in India.
This is partly true and partly false. I will highlight both.
1) Firstly Rohini is not a PESA, I repeat, it is not a PESA in the traditional sense that you have thousands of phase shifters fed by a horn.
2) It is true that DRDO bought the IPRs of this particular radar in question from poland and thus have been manufacturing in India with various modification on Indian carriers. However what you fail to realize that the radar in question is not considered state of the art in india.
3) You really need to study real reports, research papers and attend seminars to assess what is the research scenario in india in the field of radars. India has come a long long way off the rohini system which is from 90s era. A lot of AESA radar related technology have been patented for instance quad channel TRMMs in S,L and X-band. They have gone from beam forming in analog domain to full digital beam forming AESAs that have instrumented range of 400kms. And no I am not talking about Israeli ELTA 2082 but an Indian designed MPR
The State of India, like their Neighbor Pakistan, has so much internal rot that it kills most indigenous talent from ever delivering.
No doubt India isnt perfect, but it surely is much better than Pakistan in various facets of governance. As for the talented people, a lot of them(much more than Pakistanis living abroad) are returning back.
