Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Rank]

This Aircraft look mooore WOW if the lenght of this aircraft would be little 30% further reduce.... toooo bulky and heavy

 

[Deino]

This Aircraft look mooore WOW if the lenght of this aircraft would be little 30% further reduce.... toooo bulky and heavy

Something like that ?

 

[SOHEIL]

This Aircraft look mooore WOW if the lenght of this aircraft would be little 30% further reduce.... toooo bulky and heavy

 

[albert_008]

this is in line with PLA 's grand strategy, fly further and fly faster , it is also a reflect of current aviation technology of China

 

[Deino]

Ohhhh ... and now without that nasty watermark on it !!

 

[Rank]

Something like that ?

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Increase the size of tail fin..... like Raptor....

 

[monitor]

MiG Denies Stealth Technology Transfer To China For J-20 Fighter






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Russia has never transferred any stealth technology to China to assist it with its J-20 Black Eagle fifth-generation stealth fighter prototype, Russian plane maker MiG said.
"We are not delivering any equipment to China, and never have," MiG spokeswoman Yelena Fyodorova said.

MiG's statement follows claims in the Russian and foreign press last week that China's J-20, unveiled over six months ago, is based on technology and components from the Russian Mikoyan Article 1.44, a stealth technology demonstrator aircraft, development of which was suspended.

Some analysts say the aircraft have close similarities.
"The back end of the J-20 looks awfully like the 1.44, as does the overall layout with delta canards," said Douglas Barrie, an air warfare specialist at the London-based International Institute of Strategic Studies.

"If it's a coincidence, it's a striking one. Russia may have provided technical support, but there is nothing substantial to prove that. China has however relied on Russia for much of its defense procurement for a decade and a half," he added.

China's J-20 Black Eagle is thought to be conceptually similar to the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the Russian T-50 jets, but is likely to be just a technology demonstrator or prototype rather than a viable fighter.


China has been working on a future fighter program since the mid-1990s, but the J-20 is not expected to enter service before 2018-2020.

Earlier in the month, Mikhail Pogosyan, the head of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation said that China's fifth-generation fighter program is more for effect than substance and branded the maiden flight as a "show-off."

China relied on the Soviet Union for much of its aviation technology until the Sino-Soviet split after 1961. China then carried on developing copies of Soviet and Russian aircraft.

Beijing also relies on Russian engines, radars and electronic components for many of its other aircraft, such as the JF-17 fighter it developed jointly with Pakistan.

"We are not delivering any equipment to China, and never have," MiG spokeswoman Yelena Fyodorova said.

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[Ultima Thule]

i don't like J-20 it not have true stealth or broadband stealth, it has canard surface which increases its frontal RCS, with rear it has no protection from infrared SAM and AAM with its rear ventral fins which increases side RCS, i think J-31 is much much better in the term of infrared and radar RCS

 

[Beast]

i don't like J-20 it not have true stealth or broadband stealth, it has canard surface which increases its frontal RCS, with rear it has no protection from infrared SAM and AAM with its rear ventral fins which increases side RCS, i think J-31 is much much better in the term of infrared and radar RCS

Theres a reason why PLAAF chooses J-20 over J-31 as next generation fighter jet. Stealth is the number one factor follow by other capabilities.

I will trust the expert judgement and not goes with our layman assessment.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

i don't like J-20 it not have true stealth or broadband stealth, it has canard surface which increases its frontal RCS, with rear it has no protection from infrared SAM and AAM with its rear ventral fins which increases side RCS, i think J-31 is much much better in the term of infrared and radar RCS

People like you read bits and parts and start considering them to be paragons of knowledge. Beast is right.

 

[Ultima Thule]

People like you read bits and parts and start considering them to be paragons of knowledge. Beast is right.

Don"t live in denail mode, in technical term J-20 is inferior to F-22 in frontal and rear infrared and radar RCS

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

Don"t live in denail mode, in technical term J-20 is inferior to F-22 in frontal and rear infrared and radar RCS

I am not staying in any kind of "denial" mode.

I don't comment on these matters altogether, because it is almost impossible to make decent guesses on these things, unless we have quite a bit of inside knowledge. The people found here making speculations are largely idiots.

What I am though saying is that a Radar cross section can't be abstracted out to individual parts. It is the grouping of the whole airplane.
So yes, Radar cross section as I say, can't be thought of as made of abstracted out parts, or one will have to definitlely prove that abstraction with the necessary parameters.

 

[longlong]

Don"t live in denail mode, in technical term J-20 is inferior to F-22 in frontal and rear infrared and radar RCS

That is not true.
We should think in this way:

Front: F-22 has two huge wings, J-20 has two small wings (canards)
Buttock: F-22 has two horizontal tail and J-20 doesn't have.

 

[gambit]

That is not true.
We should think in this way:

Front: F-22 has two huge wings, J-20 has two small wings (canards)
Buttock: F-22 has two horizontal tail and J-20 doesn't have.

Absolutely...I wish more and more of the PLA's leadership think that way.

 

[Ultima Thule]

That is not true.
We should think in this way:

Front: F-22 has two huge wings, J-20 has two small wings (canards)
Buttock: F-22 has two horizontal tail and J-20 doesn't have.

you idiot does J-20 not have the huge wing?, wing +canard must increases it frontal RCS,look at the pics of F-22 its engine nozzle shielded by some kind of material, its horizontal tail partially shielded its engine flame to the side, and what about J-20 from rear, its defenceless to infrared SAM and AAM from the rear, grow up kid

Absolutely...I wish more and more of the PLA's leadership think that way.

leave him alone Mr gambit, these chinese fanboys live in their fantasy world that their is superperfect