Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Zabaniyah]

it's not that big

Hell no! It's big! The J-7 looks like a baby in front of it!

J-15 has larger wing area, but J-20 needs the internal weapons bays, thus its body is fatter than that of J-15 or other flankers.

My point exactly. Especially given that it follows a complex mechanism for the bay doors.

Big is beautiful as they say

 

[hk299792458]

Henri K.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

Henri K.

World is trying to move from conventional to stealth planes. China is doing the opposite, trying to convert an alleged stealth plane to conventional plane.

 

[j20blackdragon]

It's very simple.

Would you rather have this?

Or this?

Obviously, such method requires the stealth plane to fly with the open bay doors for a certain amount of time, a condition that can limit the aircraft performance, maneuverability, and increases the overall plane’s RCS, with a temporary exposure of the aircraft to the enemy radars.

The Aviationist » China’s new stealth fighter’s missile launch rails prove Beijing can improve U.S. technology

 

[razgriz19]

 

[gambit]

World is trying to move from conventional to stealth planes. China is doing the opposite, trying to convert an alleged stealth plane to conventional plane.

The Chinese can try it, but it is not going to help. It is an overly complex solution to an imaginary problem to start.

It's very simple.

Would you rather have this?

Or this?

The Aviationist » China’s new stealth fighter’s missile launch rails prove Beijing can improve U.S. technology

Right...

The article said...

Obviously, such method requires the stealth plane to fly with the open bay doors for a certain amount of time, a condition that can limit the aircraft performance, maneuverability, and increases the overall plane’s RCS, with a temporary exposure of the aircraft to the enemy radars.

How long is that 'certain amount of time'? And given how much exposed rail/missile combination contribute to RCS, what make you think that this contraption is any better WHILE IT IS EXPOSED ?

Critical thinking...???

 

[shuttler]

 

[Fsjal]

It's very simple.

Would you rather have this?

Or this?

The Aviationist » China’s new stealth fighter’s missile launch rails prove Beijing can improve U.S. technology

The first image

 

[Beast]

The Chinese can try it, but it is not going to help. It is an overly complex solution to an imaginary problem to start.


Right...

The article said...


How long is that 'certain amount of time'? And given how much exposed rail/missile combination contribute to RCS, what make you think that this contraption is any better WHILE IT IS EXPOSED ?

Critical thinking...???

When you need to open that SRAAM bay for dogfight. Does stealth and RCS matter already? Only drag and performances matter in dogfight. F-22 with its door bay open will create massive drag. While j-20 with only missile dangling will have less drag.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

When you need to open that SRAAM bay for dogfight. Does stealth and RCS matter already? Only drag and performances matter in dogfight. F-22 with its door bay open will create massive drag. While j-20 with only missile dangling will have less drag.

The amount of time the J20 bay door will be open to pull out the rail system outside will be far more than the time F22 will take to open door and fire a missile.

 

[Beast]

The amount of time the J20 bay door will be open to pull out the rail system outside will be far more than the time F22 will take to open door and fire a missile.

China J-20 concept will be to open the bay and get ready the missile before getting into real close for dogfight. It do not last min when about to fire missile then will open the bay. SRAAM need to get visual signature lock before able to fire it at enemy. You can't just open the bay and straight away fired. So F-22 has to bear with the drag of door open with possible degradable performance to carry out its dogfight. While J-20 do not suffer such headache.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

China J-20 concept will be to open the bay and get ready the missile before getting into real close for dogfight. It do not last min when about to fire missile then will open the bay. SRAAM need to get visual signature lock before able to fire it at enemy. You can't just open the bay and straight away fired. So F-22 has to bear with the drag of door open with possible degradable performance to carry out its dogfight. While J-20 do not suffer such headache.

WTH

 

[Myth_buster_1]

World is trying to move from conventional to stealth planes. China is doing the opposite, trying to convert an alleged stealth plane to conventional plane.

You make no sense.

 

[hk299792458]

The amount of time the J20 bay door will be open to pull out the rail system outside will be far more than the time F22 will take to open door and fire a missile.

I'm interesting by the lead time for both aircrafts to open and to close the bay door, and the duration of target acquisition for AIM-9M/X (= duration of which the bay door of F-22 is opened, which would not be the case for J-20).

Thank you,

Henri K.

 

[Fsjal]

Is the J-20 the only fighter jet using this missile rail design. If so, then I'll clap for those designers. This makes the J-20 one of the most stealthiest plane today, if I'm right.