Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

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[grey boy 2]

 

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China's J-20 fighter jet may get homemade engine
Source : Global Times Editor : Zhang Tao Time : 2017-09-08

Most experts and netizens said they believe photos posted online of China's J-20 fighter jets show homemade Taihang engines have replaced their Russian-made counterparts.

A report released by thepaper.cn on Wednesday said the new engine is the Taihang based on its appearance on the online photos.

The J-20 used to be outfitted with the Russia-made AL-31F engine, according to the report, but the homemade engines could be mass-produced.

"It is necessary for the J-20 to use homemade engines. This way, the fighter jet will be completely developed and manufactured in China," Huang Jun, a professor at Beihang University, told the Global Times on Thursday.

According to the report, the insufficient supply of the Russian engines could have led to the change, since orders for the homemade engine also come from overseas, while the price of the Russian engine has been increased from $3 million to $ 5 million each.

"The Taihang engine's performance is nearly as good as the AL-31F. However, being new, the Taihang lacks the maturity of the Russian one," said Huang.

The report added it is much more complicated to change the engine of the fourth generation of J-20s than the second and the third one due to adjustments to the fourth generation's air inlet and engine compartment, among others.

The J-20 is expected to undergo another engine change with the homemade WS-15, which is currently being developed, said the report of thepaper.cn.

http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2017-09/08/content_7747590.htm

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The WS-10 engine has already powered several hundred PLAAF aircrafts for many years, and so far it got zero record of incident.

 

[lmjiao]

China's J-20 fighter jet may get homemade engine
Source : Global Times Editor : Zhang Tao Time : 2017-09-08

Most experts and netizens said they believe photos posted online of China's J-20 fighter jets show homemade Taihang engines have replaced their Russian-made counterparts.

A report released by thepaper.cn on Wednesday said the new engine is the Taihang based on its appearance on the online photos.

This media is actually the most official media of PLA.

It is really awkward that this official media write reports of J-20 based on forgien sources.

 

[Figaro]

The WS-10 engine has already powered several hundred PLAAF aircrafts for many years, and so far it got zero record of incident.

They were referring to the new WS-10 variant ... not the reliable WS-10A. The latter is the one used in hundreds of aircraft ... not the WS-10X

 

[lmjiao]

The WS-10 engine has already powered several hundred PLAAF aircrafts for many years, and so far it got zero record of incident.

If you mean crash incident, it's really zero record.

In protype stage of Taihang, there was serious incidents of Taihang, however no crash occured because of engine failure.

After Taihang enter in service in 2010, there's still some incidents but no serious ones.

The only crash of fighter equipped with Taihang is the prototype of J-11BS No. 532. However, investigation shows that the crash is not related to the Taihang engine.

Only crash of Taihang fighter, but not due to engine.

Link (in Chinese):https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1736057&fromuid=170559
Author: Yankee

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

They were referring to the new WS-10 variant ... not the reliable WS-10A. The latter is the one used in hundreds of aircraft ... not the WS-10X

Yes, they believe the performance and reliability of this new WS-10B is pretty close to the best jet engine that Russia has offered China so far; the 117S.

If you mean crash incident, it's really zero record.

In protype stage of Taihang, there was serious incidents of Taihang, however no crash occured because of engine failure.

After Taihang enter in service in 2010, there's still some incidents but no serious ones.

The only crash of fighter equipped with Taihang is the prototype of J-11BS No. 532. However, investigation shows that the crash is not related to the Taihang engine.
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Only crash of Taihang fighter, but not due to engine.

Link (in Chinese):https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1736057&fromuid=170559
Author: Yankee

That's why Yankee believes that the WS-10B should be entered into the mass production before the introduction of the WS-15.

I believe the maximum potential for the WS-10B is around 155KN, so far this engine is not fully mature, so it hasn't been optimized to its maximum performance.

 

[clarkgap]

[QUOTE =“费加罗，后：9841493，成员：186693”]这些报告究竟是什么...其他人说其进步很好[/ QUOTE]

You can find it on huitong's web.

 

[juj06750]

hey . american assholes . No RUSSIAN ENGINES IN J20

it's been repeatedly confirmed by state media

americans hate chinese and

they strongly hope that china fails everything, hopefully engines too lol

I recommend that we may ban americans on this forum (this is chinese forum)

here we exchange credible information (NOT american ideology)

most americans and their state media don't even have credible sources for chinese weapons

I hope no more waste on this ridiculous topic

GO GO GO CHINA !!!

 

[STRANGER BIRD]

China #PLAAF #J20 #stealth on pylon GEDOI7/7/17 #Leizhuangcun Possibly testing canard RCS at various angles.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

According to the report, the insufficient supply of the Russian engines could have led to the change, since orders for the homemade engine also come from overseas, while the price of the Russian engine has been increased from $3 million to $ 5 million each.

This is great news. If it's Russian unreliability that's causing this reengining, then there's no reason to believe there are any setbacks in the WS-15 program.

 

[grey boy 2]

Not sure if this has been posted before "78271"
"EDIT, old picture, posted a few months back, please ignore

 

[Figaro]

Not sure if this has been posted before "78271"
"EDIT, old picture, posted a few months back, please ignore

It's from back in December but still looks great!

 

[grey boy 2]