Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[aliaselin]

New J20 has been spotted

 

[kurutoga]

Magnificent best. Pity it hasn't been offered to PAF. I hope that China makes an exception for Pakistan.

Actually if you think about it, China's strategic use of J-20 is to attack enemy aircraft carriers. For Pakistan and Iran, the highest priority is air superiority in a defense mode, where stealth is not critical. So maybe J-20 is not a good fit considering the cost?

 

[Deino]

New J20 has been spotted

Any confirmation on whether its still '2016' or already '2017" ?

.... by the way: I want IMAGES !!!!!

 

[Deino]

New J20 has been spotted

It was "only" 2016 again ...

 

[aliaselin]

It was "only" 2016 again ...

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Maybe not. Wait for 2 ~ 3 weeks

 

[Deino]

Maybe not. Wait for 2 ~ 3 weeks

But I don't wanna wait ! Patience is not really my best virtue ...

 

[cnleio]

How many J-20 prototypes China already built ???

 

[Deino]

How many J-20 prototypes China already built ???

demonstrators:
2001 & 2002 (= now 2004)

prototypes:
2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016

... altogether 7 flying aircraft + IMO at least two static airframes.

 

[cnleio]

demonstrators:
2001 & 2002 (= now 2004)

prototypes:
2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016

... altogether 7 flying aircraft + IMO at least two static airframes.

American built 2x YF-22, 11x F-22 prototypes ... China J-20 prototypes might less than that.

 

[Deino]

American built 2x YF-22, 11x F-22 prototypes ... China J-20 prototypes might less than that.

Probably it is better to compare, to look how many aircraft were build at what time ... and even more for the F-22-program, there were also two YF-22 (rather very different birds), which were then followed by so called EMD aircraft(engineering and manufacturing development). As far as I know there were 9 EMDs and aircraft '4010' was regarded the first serial one.

Comparing the timelines:

Demonstrators: (first date F-22 ... second one J-20)
01 - Sept. 1990 ... Jan. 2011
02 - Oct. 1990 ... May 2012

EMD:
4001 - April 1997 ... March 2014
4002 - June 1998 ... June 2014
4003 - March 2000 ... Nov. 2014
4004 - Nov. 2000 ... Dec. 2014
4005 - Jan. 2001 ... Sept. 2015
4006 - ?
4007 - ?
4008 - ?
4009 - ?

serials:
4010 - Oct. 2002

Up to the comparable 7 aircraft, the USA needed 11 years + 4 months, CAC now - even if both programs are surely not comparable directly 1:1 - took 4 years + 8 months.

As such it will be interesting, to see what comes next ....

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[Akasa]

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Are you implying that the two protrusions near the rear of the fuselage are EO sensors?

 

[SOHEIL]

Are you implying that the two protrusions near the rear of the fuselage are EO sensors?

You can't see the difference bro ?

 

[Akasa]

You can't see the difference bro ?

Yeah, but the orange arrow points at the EOTS for some reason?

 

[SOHEIL]

Yeah, but the orange arrow points at the EOTS for some reason?