Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[帅的一匹]

What an elegant beauty J10b is! The manufacturing ability of CAC is marvelous!

 

[TaimiKhan]

Guys, whats the major difference between J-10B & J-10C ??

 

[AlyxMS]

Guys, whats the major difference between J-10B & J-10C ??

Radar, the radar on J-10B is a PESA.

This is the public consensus, but if you go back a few pages there's this one particular person who does not agree.

Also a piece of (EW?) equipment located on the tail that is on J-10B is not present on J-10C.

Other than that and they are nearly indentical from the outside. I'm not sure about this one but the arrangement of antennas are different between the two.

 

[Deino]

Guys, whats the major difference between J-10B & J-10C ??

Hu ... besides the question "what engine does the J-20 uses" the probably most often asked question here !

Most of all the c uses an AESA + more refined, more capable avionics whereas - and here I do not want to re-open that discussion - B used at least in the beginnings a PESA.

Both are however still using the AL-31FN series 3.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Hu ... besides the question "what engine does the J-20 uses" the probably most often asked question here !

Most of all the c uses an AESA + more refined, more capable avionics whereas - and here I do not want to re-open that discussion - B used at least in the beginnings a PESA.

Both are however still using the AL-31FN series 3.

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These are just slight variations, don't understand why giving it a totally new designation as it brings confusion.

Hu ... besides the question "what engine does the J-20 uses" the probably most often asked question here !

Most of all the c uses an AESA + more refined, more capable avionics whereas - and here I do not want to re-open that discussion - B used at least in the beginnings a PESA.

Both are however still using the AL-31FN series 3.

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hahahahahhahahaa, don't worry as i have no issues with engines as I know if not today, tomorrow the Chinese will have their own engines and this one bottleneck in their aviation industry will be solved.

With the strides the Chinese aviation industry has taken in last 1 decade, is itself awesome and commendable.

But the difference you pointed out and other member who clarified are not that big that proper designations are changed or are these B & C designations by non-official aviation enthusiasts ??

 

[MystryMan]

Now we also have J-10D as per @cirr

About J-10D:

(Drastic?)changes in exterior
More stealthy
Longer range
More advanced avionics, radars etc

These are just slight variations, don't understand why giving it a totally new designation as it brings confusion.



hahahahahhahahaa, don't worry as i have no issues with engines as I know if not today, tomorrow the Chinese will have their own engines and this one bottleneck in their aviation industry will be solved.

With the strides the Chinese aviation industry has taken in last 1 decade, is itself awesome and commendable.

But the difference you pointed out and other member who clarified are not that big that proper designations are changed or are these B & C designations by non-official aviation enthusiasts ??

 

[Deino]

These are just slight variations, don't understand why giving it a totally new designation as it brings confusion.

Indeed and even more the fact that no new construction umbers were allocated - all Batch 01 are J-10B and all Batch 02 are J-10C - let me have some minor doubts. However the general consensus seems to be that it is simply that way.

Concerning the J-10D ... I'm really eager to learn more. Maybe a twin-seater J-10C + CFTs ???

Hopefully soon this year.

Deino

 

[grey boy 2]

J-10S with PL-10 (伟大祖国展翅高飞！中国歼10S曝挂霹雳10导弹)

 

[aziqbal]

Omg J10D???

Are you kiddin me

So 53 x J10B and 55 x J10C identified so far ?

 

[WarFariX]

Indeed and even more the fact that no new construction umbers were allocated - all Batch 01 are J-10B and all Batch 02 are J-10C - let me have some minor doubts. However the general consensus seems to be that it is simply that way.

Concerning the J-10D ... I'm really eager to learn more. Maybe a twin-seater J-10C + CFTs ???

Hopefully soon this year.

Deino

off topic , could you explain me how to determine the weight class (heavy,medium,light) of jet with given specification...i there any relation with power of engine or MTOW ??

 

[cirr]

Indeed and even more the fact that no new construction umbers were allocated - all Batch 01 are J-10B and all Batch 02 are J-10C - let me have some minor doubts. However the general consensus seems to be that it is simply that way.

Concerning the J-10D ... I'm really eager to learn more. Maybe a twin-seater J-10C + CFTs ???

Hopefully soon this year.

Deino

How about EOTS/EODAS for starters?

Employment of plasma technology for enhanced stealthness is another Possibility.(Note the capital letter)

The rumour mill has gone into overdrive.

 

[Akasa]

How about EOTS/EODAS for starters?

Employment of plasma technology for enhanced stealthness is another Possibility.(Note the capital letter)

The rumour mill has gone into overdrive.

Expected time frame for rollout? How close is it to prototype stage?

 

[j20blackdragon]

About J-10D:
(Drastic?)changes in exterior
More stealthy
Longer range
More advanced avionics, radars etc

How about EOTS/EODAS for starters?

Employment of plasma technology for enhanced stealthness is another Possibility.(Note the capital letter)

The rumour mill has gone into overdrive.

A J-10D with stealth shaping and internal bays would be an incredible stealth aircraft.

Compare the frontal cross section of the F-35 with the J-10B.

The F-35 is fat and wide. The J-10B is slim.
Both have DSI. But the F-35 has two inlets compared to one on the J-10B.

Another possibility is that the J-10D turns out to be this.

The J-20 doesn't have a gun port probably because it's not optimized to be a dogfighter. If that is the case, a smaller, single-engine stealth fighter would make sense.

 

[Pepsi Cola]

A J-10D with stealth shaping and internal bays would be an incredible stealth aircraft.

Compare the frontal cross section of the F-35 with the J-10B.
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The F-35 is fat and wide. The J-10B is slim.
Both have DSI. But the F-35 has two inlets compared to one on the J-10B.

Another possibility is that the J-10D turns out to be this.
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The J-20 doesn't have a gun port probably because it's not optimized to be a dogfighter. If that is the case, a smaller, single-engine stealth fighter would make sense.

highly unlikely considering many efforts from Americans and Russians to build a froward swept wings fighter, but still opted for a conventional swept wing in the end. Maybe China will build a demonstrator, but don't think it will get a production run.

 

[Deino]

A J-10D with stealth shaping and internal bays would be an incredible stealth aircraft.
...
Both have DSI. But the F-35 has two inlets compared to one on the J-10B.

Another possibility is that the J-10D turns out to be this.
....

Never ! What You are proposing would be a new aircraft with a completely new structure. It would be as ridiculous as these wet-dreams by some Pakistani fan boys to simply "enlarge" the JF-17 by adding a second RD-93 or also a WS-10.

If the J-10D comes out it will surely be some sort of evolution, but surely not that revolution You suggested.

Deino