Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[SQ8]

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[Zarvan]

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For past few days it is being reported that J-10 could be expected to arrive next year what do you have to say about it ?

 

[Akasa]

For past few days it is being reported that J-10 could be expected to arrive next year what do you have to say about it ?

People here might want to keep an eye open later this year... just saying... perhaps Chengdu has another surprise...

 

[Nishan_101]

What SENIOR think? Should we forget J-10BS for PAF and instead think over J-31s induction in coming years which some people think that is a JV between PAC and SAC. As J-31 includes RD-93B engines similar to JF-17s...

 

[Zarvan]

People here might want to keep an eye open later this year... just saying... perhaps Chengdu has another surprise...

I don't know about that but it seems Pakistan is going for J-10 really soon and @Nishan_101 we would not go for J-31 instead of J-10 we may go for J-31 but not in place of J-10 B

 

[Dil Pakistan]

I don't know about that but it seems Pakistan is going for J-10 really soon and @Nishan_101 we would not go for J-31 instead of J-10 we may go for J-31 but not in place of J-10 B

I agree. Another reason for not going for J-31 at the moment will be, that, PAF would like the aircraft to get "matured", before inducting in PAF.

PAF with limited budgets cannot induct the jets at very early stage in development.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Truth LOVER.

PLEASE EXPLAIN with examples

this comment



ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US PAKISTAN makes superior radars/eccm, BVR missles and jammers THAN CHENGDU & CHINA.

the last time PAK tried to strike a deal for FRENCH RC400 radars & mica BVRS the french quoted over $1 billion for 120 thunders AND the deal collapsed.
EURO TECH is beyond PAK budgets at present especially TO INTERGRATE on a non western FIGHTER

Your comments are making you look a bit childish since PAK/PAC makes exactly ZILCH in terms of radars eccms jammers etc and relys completely on imports from china & europe & USA.

The only reason that deal collapsed, French were drooling saliva for the $12B deal with India rather than $2B with Pakistan. Given the bad situation of French economy, it is very simple to understand (if one does not have a biased brain).

However, we now know that Indian economy has nose-dived to a GDP of only 4.4%, investors pulling out of India, corruption rampant everywhere and (last but not the least) a criminal Mr Moodi (ex-CM of Gujarat) is nominated to become the PM.

Good luck India.

 

[Donatello]

For past few days it is being reported that J-10 could be expected to arrive next year what do you have to say about it ?

Oh bhai,

The problem with J-10 is that PAF doesn't have the funds right now. It might have them in the future depending on how Nawaz Sharif manages the finances. Take a simple example, even if Pakistan can increase tax collection by just 1-2 billion $ in the next fiscal year, and then after that, that is massive amount of money and PAF can easily purchase J-10s.

As i have stated over here, the problem is not that Pakistan cannot get J-10, but the finances. China is more than happy to sell to Pakistan what it needs and above all the Chinese have always delivered on time. This is not like India's MMRCA that we have been hearing about i don't know since i was born and the deal is still not signed yet.

If Pakistan signs for J-10B, rest assured it will land in Pakistan when Pakistan wants it. But we need the money first.

That's it.


So if you want to see j-10 or what ever in PAF, please ask the fellow Pakistanis to play their due part in the growth of the country.

 

[SQ8]

For past few days it is being reported that J-10 could be expected to arrive next year what do you have to say about it ?

Where has this been reported?

 

[Zarvan]

@Donatello @Oscar when a month ago paf chief met nawaz it was decided par would go for up gradation and future plans despite the bad economy and than wnye along with PAF and navy officers visit china

 

[SQ8]

@Donatello @Oscar when a month ago paf chief met nawaz it was decided par would go for up gradation and future plans despite the bad economy and than wnye along with PAF and navy officers visit china

Please quote the section where it specifically mentioned J-10.

 

[Donatello]

@Donatello @Oscar when a month ago paf chief met nawaz it was decided par would go for up gradation and future plans despite the bad economy and than wnye along with PAF and navy officers visit china

As Oscar aptly replied,as well the fact that Pakistan's senior officers routinely go to China.

The only issue here is funds. Frankly, i wouldn't want to spend more on Airforce right now. We need to invest in tax collection measures.

 

[fatman17]

Sunday, September 15, 2013

The Status of J-10 project


As China’s first advance indigenous fighter jet project, the J-10 program is one of the most important program of PLA. The most recent variant of J-10B made its first maiden flight in December of 2008, but CAC has been producing J-10A as recent as first half of this year.

Most recently, news came out of Chinese bbs that the first batch of production J-10Bs have started to make test flights. This news was not surprising since we had already seen pictures of J-10B production units inside CAC factory a couple of months ago. At the current rate, this first batch of J-10B should be delivered to the first regiment by the end of the year. Even though a lot of us were hoping that J-10B would be able to go into service by the end of 2011, it has taken 5 years for this to happen.

When it goes into service, J-10B should be equipped with a new generation of integrated electronics systems consisting of PLAAF’s first fighter jet AESA radar, IRST, EW suite and new software architecture. J-10B is likely to serve as a testbed for various new technologies for J-20. In terms of engine, it will still be some version of AL-31FN for the first batch. AL-31FN has been improving with each batch, so it’s unknown if these new engines will bring additional thrust needed to carry the likely greater payload. There is also a speculated J-10C variant that is rumoured to make first flight later this year. It will be interesting to see how this variant will be different from J-10B.

As J-10A program draws to a close, the question we get is often how many are actually in service. We know that they have one PLANAF regiment of 24 J-10s. There are also 12 J-10AY and J-10SY serving at the August First Aerobatic Demonstration Team. Within PLAAF, there are 8 regiments (44th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 24th, 9th, 15th and 12th) of 28 aircraft each along with probably 16 to 24 J-10s serving with FTTC. Based on the above, there are around 280 J-10s of various J-10/A/S units in service.

Posted by Feng at 3:06 PM

 

[araz]

Sunday, September 15, 2013

The Status of J-10 project


As China’s first advance indigenous fighter jet project, the J-10 program is one of the most important program of PLA. The most recent variant of J-10B made its first maiden flight in December of 2008, but CAC has been producing J-10A as recent as first half of this year.

Most recently, news came out of Chinese bbs that the first batch of production J-10Bs have started to make test flights. This news was not surprising since we had already seen pictures of J-10B production units inside CAC factory a couple of months ago. At the current rate, this first batch of J-10B should be delivered to the first regiment by the end of the year. Even though a lot of us were hoping that J-10B would be able to go into service by the end of 2011, it has taken 5 years for this to happen.

When it goes into service, J-10B should be equipped with a new generation of integrated electronics systems consisting of PLAAF’s first fighter jet AESA radar, IRST, EW suite and new software architecture. J-10B is likely to serve as a testbed for various new technologies for J-20. In terms of engine, it will still be some version of AL-31FN for the first batch. AL-31FN has been improving with each batch, so it’s unknown if these new engines will bring additional thrust needed to carry the likely greater payload. There is also a speculated J-10C variant that is rumoured to make first flight later this year. It will be interesting to see how this variant will be different from J-10B.

As J-10A program draws to a close, the question we get is often how many are actually in service. We know that they have one PLANAF regiment of 24 J-10s. There are also 12 J-10AY and J-10SY serving at the August First Aerobatic Demonstration Team. Within PLAAF, there are 8 regiments (44th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 24th, 9th, 15th and 12th) of 28 aircraft each along with probably 16 to 24 J-10s serving with FTTC. Based on the above, there are around 280 J-10s of various J-10/A/S units in service.

Posted by Feng at 3:06 PM

An interesting thought. What has impeded their progress to this extent? 5 yrs is a reasonably long time to induct what is essentially a slightly developed model of an earlier plane?
Araz

 

[VelocuR]

I suspect that Pakistan decide to drop the balls on J-10B to increase the inventories of F-16 Block 52.