Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[Capt.Popeye]

Yes !

We even had @WebMaster stripped butt-naked & made to sing Marry had a Little Lamb whilst juggling a couple of porcupines !

LOL; I must try out that place then.
But no more on this, no more off-topic. Thanks.

 

[That Guy]

Stay on topic please, any news? There were some rumors that China was currently testing the Pakistani version of the J-10 with "enhanced" the WS-10 engines, whatever "enhanced" is supposed to mean.

 

[alimobin memon]

Stay on topic please, any news? There were some rumors that China was currently testing the Pakistani version of the J-10 with "enhanced" the WS-10 engines, whatever "enhanced" is supposed to mean.

Are you sure ? cause that's really Exciting to here !

 

[That Guy]

Are you sure ? cause that's really Exciting to here !

It would be, but the same rumors said that the Chinese were having trouble with the Pakistani version and may delay it to 2015-16.

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

Huzooor I understand that but my original question remains - Even if we had designated a squadron of our airplanes for a nuclear role - What did that mean ? We didn't have the source codes & so how could the F-16s ever carry a Nuke ?

Sir, agar mai jaan ki aman pao tu arz karta hun

As u know, there are 2 kinds of bombs. Guided and Un-guided.

Guided bombs are the one also called as "Precision munition" need source code access, as they have to be linked with Main computer on-top the aircraft. The data which aircraft computer collect from its own radar or other sources is transfer to the "guidance kit" or Laser guidance pod. The bomb then guide itself to that target fed into its own memory. Yes, the guidance could be satellite, laser designated or territory recognition (TERCOM). Kindly check the LS series of Chinese bombs. Its basically the guidance kit which have wings also. You attach that Kit to any dumb bomb and it will be converted into Guided ammunition.

The un-guided bombs are dumb bombs, which are just dropped near the target (as WW-II pilots use to do). Unguided bombs dont need to have any source code modification or access needed. Consider the center-pylon of F-16. F-16 dont need to know, that a bomb is hanging from there or a fuel tank. On pilot button press, it will just eject its load.

Nuclear bombs dont need the precision as such. A bomb dropped on a city, either 100m here or 100m there wouldn't make any difference. F-16 were selected back then just because of their longer range and other advancements as compared to rest of planes present in PAF inventory.

Lets consider, If now Pakistan has developed tactical nuclear weapons and lets suppose we want to hit a major industrial complex. Then guided nuclear bomb will be used, surely you need to access source code then.

 

[sancho]

Stay on topic please, any news? There were some rumors that China was currently testing the Pakistani version of the J-10 with "enhanced" the WS-10 engines, whatever "enhanced" is supposed to mean.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...tirole-fighter-air-craft-438.html#post4178189

 

[Munir]

Russia needs to export it goods through Pakistan. The whole Afghanistan war was never about Afghanistan but getting Pakistani coast. They still need it. The Russians walk a fine line not to make the Indians very unhappy but with Russia getting richer that situation is changing. Back then they needed an idiot to fund Su30-MK... Now they will sell PAKFA and smile... Indians can not run away. Hence RD33...

 

[That Guy]

Russia needs to export it goods through Pakistan. The whole Afghanistan war was never about Afghanistan but getting Pakistani coast. They still need it. The Russians walk a fine line not to make the Indians very unhappy but with Russia getting richer that situation is changing. Back then they needed an idiot to fund Su30-MK... Now they will sell PAKFA and smile... Indians can not run away. Hence RD33...

The Russians no longer need Pakistan's coasts, as they have India's. Having said that, Russia needs to expand it's markets, and what better way than to expand into one of the largest populated nations in the world, Pakistan. Granted, India outnumbers Pakistan 10-1, but Pakistan is an untapped market and Russia would do well to drill into it.

Anyways, that's off topic.

The engine isn't being sold to Pakistan directly, it's being sold to China who're assembling it for the JF-17 for Pakistan. Eventually, the Chinese are gonna re-export it directly to Pakistan and with the warming relations between Pakistan and Russia, I doubt that Russia is going to protest.

I think that in the long term, Russia wants to start selling Mil-equipment to Pakistan, in the short term though, there is no way that the Russians would jeopardize their intense (but receding) relations with India for Pakistan.

 

[Liquidmetal]

The Russians no longer need Pakistan's coasts, as they have India's. Having said that, Russia needs to expand it's markets, and what better way than to expand into one of the largest populated nations in the world, Pakistan. Granted, India outnumbers Pakistan 10-1, but Pakistan is an untapped market and Russia would do well to drill into it.

Anyways, that's off topic.

The engine isn't being sold to Pakistan directly, it's being sold to China who're assembling it for the JF-17 for Pakistan. Eventually, the Chinese are gonna re-export it directly to Pakistan and with the warming relations between Pakistan and Russia, I doubt that Russia is going to protest.

I think that in the long term, Russia wants to start selling Mil-equipment to Pakistan, in the short term though, there is no way that the Russians would jeopardize their intense (but receding) relations with India for Pakistan.

You are right, the Russian's have long memories and will not want to sell to a country that had become a stuck bone in their throats when they rolled their tanks into our ungrateful neighbour. However, the Russians would also do well to see how their cold war ally is now sitting in the laps of the US and Europe, if the US can sell to India the surely the Russians may want to expand their client portfolio too. In international relatioships there are no perm friends or enemies. If India is not in the Market for Russian then maybe Pakistan will be. It is important both countries readjust and be friends rather than live through the past.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

When are we expecting J10B in PAF color?

Enjoy some images of J 10 B.....
http://www.defencedot.com/j10b-chinese-fighter-jet-in-image/

http://www.defencedot.com/j10b-chinese-fighter-jet-in-image/

 

[Cool_Soldier]

J10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image GalleryJ10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image Gallery

 

[Pinnacle]

J10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image GalleryJ10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image Gallery

These images are of j-10A.... !!!

 

[That Guy]

You are right, the Russian's have long memories and will not want to sell to a country that had become a stuck bone in their throats when they rolled their tanks into our ungrateful neighbour. However, the Russians would also do well to see how their cold war ally is now sitting in the laps of the US and Europe, if the US can sell to India the surely the Russians may want to expand their client portfolio too. In international relatioships there are no perm friends or enemies. If India is not in the Market for Russian then maybe Pakistan will be. It is important both countries readjust and be friends rather than live through the past.

It's already happening, Putin's policy of "let bygones be bygones". He's been pushing for stronger relations with Pakistan, ever since the Indians started to move towards US and EU defense markets.

It'll take a long time, but things are warming up, especially since the Russian air chief came to Pakistan for the first time in history, toured the JF-17 production factory and even sat in said jet.

 

[Bamboo Castle]

When are we expecting J10B in PAF color?

Enjoy some images of J 10 B.....
J10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image Gallery

J10B Chinese Fighter Jet in Image Gallery

The Chinese J-10B fighter is not yet equipped with the domestic WS-10A engine suggests the sales to Pakistan may have to wait for quite a long time.

 

[sancho]

Russia needs to export it goods through Pakistan. The whole Afghanistan war was never about Afghanistan but getting Pakistani coast. They still need it. The Russians walk a fine line not to make the Indians very unhappy but with Russia getting richer that situation is changing. Back then they needed an idiot to fund Su30-MK... Now they will sell PAKFA and smile... Indians can not run away. Hence RD33...

You mean, China right? Since they got the first Su 30MK varients. For the rest, don't fool yourself with your theories, the fact that Russia and India had never a closer defence relation that today alone show where Russia is looking at. Not to mention the reports here that it's PAF, that don't want the Russian engines and prefer a Chinese alternative, if available.