Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[Sanchez]

It was a single news piece that created doubts in many minds. Let me state that they are coming for sure. The J-10 B was made for PAF as Chinese are even happy with the A version. J-10 B (FC-20) IS the Pakistani version of J-10 exclusively made by China on our specifications including Nriet AESA radar. Our pilots are taking part in test and evaluation phase since its creation.

China also has another J-10"B" variant with PLAAF specifications. These "B" variants have to be equipped with Chinese made engines.

The J-10B with DSI intake has been discussed as the PAF variant in China. China is helping to develop a suitable FC-20 that can put up a credible fight against MKI or MRCAs.

 

[Dazzler]

Sanchez


Thanks for confirmation bro

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

FC-20 /J10B .... wonderful Future Pakistani plane of Chinese origin

"Translation : Hope Pakistan Likes these planes" lol

 

[A$HU]

I have a doubt whether the pakistani j10 will be equipped with aesa or not.
I would be grateful if any pakistani bother can clarify my doubt.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I have a doubt whether the pakistani j10 will be equipped with aesa or not.
I would be grateful if any pakistani bother can clarify my doubt.

We all want the fighter jets to come with AESA radars including these two

"I want it AESA WAY"

our FC20/J10B will have AESA , cuz we all want it that way

 

[araz]

araz..could we be seeing more than 36 orders of FC-20? to be its most likely and logical conclusion for waiting 4 more years..

Luftwaffe
The preliminary order will be for 36. PAF will almost certainly buy more than that and the overall number may go up to 100-150. If you look at the current fleet of PAF we will need at least 200 high end fighter or perhaps more to keep a balance of power in the subcontinent.With the f16s and J10s PAF has got options and it will certainly play one against the other (in the nicest possible way!!! ) to get what it wants. The third factor is how much improvements the JF17 gets and to what extent is that going to change the picture.To be honest if we improve Thunder, it will be at the expenserof old blocks of F16s rather than FC20.
There are other confounding factors as to what else becomes available and what the threat perception turns out to be in the local arena which will change our acquisition strategy , but you can make a pretty good guess that we will be flying more than 36 J10s/FC20, and you wont be wrong.
regards
Araz

 

[araz]

I have a doubt whether the pakistani j10 will be equipped with aesa or not.
I would be grateful if any pakistani bother can clarify my doubt.

There are credible reports coming out of china that they have an AESA radar available to install in J10and possibly FC1s. PAF will initiate a competition and whatever comes out best will be incorporated.
Araz

 

[A$HU]

There are credible reports coming out of china that they have an AESA radar available to install in J10and possibly FC1s. PAF will initiate a competition and whatever comes out best will be incorporated.
Araz

Thanx for your post.
But you cannot initiate a competition for something like aesa radars .They are are highly sensitive technologies.But even if there is an competition which would be the other country which is interested in selling aesa to pakistan.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

guys,i found the first ever J10s picture.it is the first prototype......look very similar to LAVI.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Thanx for your post.
But you cannot initiate a competition for something like aesa radars .They are are highly sensitive technologies.But even if there is an competition which would be the other country which is interested in selling aesa to pakistan.

We have very good relations with Italian manufacturers from whom we got Grifo radars, Falco UAV, Spada SAM system and other stuff.

SO what PAF did before was make a competition between Grifo radar manufacturers and Chinese ones for the current radar of JF-17s, which the Chinese won by supplying a superior radar.

Similarly, the Vixen series radar are a good choice for any future AESA radar for JF-17, and Chinese are gonna come with something to compete with them.

 

[TaimiKhan]

guys,i found the first ever J10s picture.it is the first prototype......look very similar to LAVI.

A better comparison:

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

J10B can only be compared to F16 delta wing

The Israel plane was just stolen design for F16XL

 

[Peregrine]

Hi,
Some how i think J-10 is a much better looking plane than Lavi.

 

[Sanchez]

We have very good relations with Italian manufacturers from whom we got Grifo radars, Falco UAV, Spada SAM system and other stuff.

SO what PAF did before was make a competition between Grifo radar manufacturers and Chinese ones for the current radar of JF-17s, which the Chinese won by supplying a superior radar.

Similarly, the Vixen series radar are a good choice for any future AESA radar for JF-17, and Chinese are gonna come with something to compete with them.

China's radar tech advances fast.

Grifo was superior at the time of J-7PG. The first 50 JF-17s have a Chinese PD radar. If PAF wants an open bid to get AESA radars on JF-17 China could offer one in competition. China's AESA is different from Russia's now that Russia has to buy certain key parts from Europe.

There are reportedly two fighter AESA radars certified. Induction of AESA radars on J-10As and J-11s began in 2008.

Personally I think PAF should procure both European and Chinese radars for J-10B.

 

[SBD-3]

just found this........

China’s fifth-generation efforts date back to the early 1990s and will start with two heavy fighters from China’s two main fighter companies. A Chinese source told me in early 2005 that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation, famous for developing the fourth-generation J-10 fighter, was considering the development of a medium-weight fifth-generation plane comparable to the F-35. This could mean that Chengdu’s fighter will be built in vertical take-off and aircraft carrier versions. In 2006, the competing Shenyang Aircraft Corporation revealed a concept for a single-engine forward-swept-wing fighter that would be highly maneuverable and potentially stealthy. It seems the PLA envisions two levels to its program: a heavy fighter for maintaining air superiority, and a medium-weight plane that’s cheaper and more versatile.

Even before China’s fifth-generation fighter flies, advances in electronics and engines will enable new “four-plus” generation fighters, like the J-10B that recently began flight testing. These fighters and eventual fifth-generation fighters will pose a more effective challenge to current and future U.S. air forces, and will make obsolete the fourth-generation fighter fleets of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.