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Solar is a big failure and extremely expensive to maintain..there are cell burn outs due to concentrated heat and then the manpower and clean water requirements to regularly wash them.




Solar Technology is being developed and its reliability and cost is continously being IMPROVED and DEVELOPED.
 
Solar is a big failure and extremely expensive to maintain..there are cell burn outs due to concentrated heat and then the manpower and clean water requirements to regularly wash them.

Stop your misinformation,.... solar does not mean only PV.
Only by going solar Pakistan can have savings of billions... every passing day we are loosing billions.
Application of technology is always key...

Biggest advantage of solar energy is that individuals can invest in it and become independent, and this is what IMF will never allow.
 
Pakistan needs to diversify its Energy Supply. Currently there is no energy security. Pakistan needs to revise it's ENTIRE Energy Policy. It can not continue to build oil-furnaces to create electricity.

Some suggestions:

Pakistan has excellent hydro-electric potential, but mega projects are not the way to go. Small dams here and there with the capacity of 750-1.2 megawatts is a great idea. If only Pakistan can be more able to protect the Indus River & its tributaries.

Solar electricity will be a great idea, especially if the government is able to educate the people to install the panels on the roofs of their residence. Rather than buying UPS which add pressure on the national grid.

Wing power will be great for rural villages. Allot of electric power is lost in transit. Having the electric supply close to the consumer will be wonderful.

Nuclear Power only makes sense if it is to provide electricity to the cities. Which are projected to grow greatly in the next 5 years.

1) Mega Projects are not the way to go. Look at WAPDA. Small projects here and there will provide better employment for the local economy, the employees will have a vested interest to do the best work, because it will be "in their backyard".

2) Less maintenance costs, once the cost exceed the value, the government can just phase out the project.

3) Hopefully by the next decade the Country will be in a better position.

Side note: People could also build gardens on their roofs it has been proven that gardens are able to lower the temperature and are greener. There is a Great push in much of the world, where building are being remodeled to have gardens on the roofs. Look up Songdo, South Korea.
 
Stop your misinformation,.... solar does not mean only PV.
Only by going solar Pakistan can have savings of billions... every passing day we are loosing billions.
Application of technology is always key...

Biggest advantage of solar energy is that individuals can invest in it and become independent, and this is what IMF will never allow.

No individual has enough investment to even power there house on solar so yes IMF will never approve this because it will be a huge waste of money on imports.

As far as solar is concerned only beneficial solar applications are CSP and unfortunately Pakistani gov has never focused on growing a solar talent and industrial base in Pakistan so we are far behind.
 
Only by going solar Pakistan can have savings of billions... every passing day we are loosing billions.
Application of technology is always key...

The problem is contrary to the popular belief solar power technology is not as cheap as we think to even invest and implemented in 20% of Pakistan needs billions of dollars that is something we don't have currently unless reko dekh is every where in Pakistan.
 
can someone confirm we don't import heavy water for these reactors? because what i knew was that we import heavy water inorder to run these reactors! and how much of a god forbid earthquake can they withstand?
 
can someone confirm we don't import heavy water for these reactors? because what i knew was that we import heavy water inorder to run these reactors! and how much of a god forbid earthquake can they withstand?
CANDU reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The CANDU (short for CANada Deuterium Uranium) reactor is a Canadian-invented, pressurized heavy water reactor. The acronym refers to its deuterium-oxide (heavy water) moderator and its use of (originally, natural) uranium fuel.
Karachi Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Karachi Nuclear Power Plant, widely known as KANUPP-I, is a commercial nuclear power plant, located at Karachi, Sindh Province of Pakistan. In terms of Pakistan Nuclear industry, KANUPP is country's first commercially operated nuclear power plant, and also holds a distinction of being the first nuclear power plant in the Muslim world to be constructed. With the establishment and inauguration of this reactor, Pakistan became first nuclear power country in the Muslim world in 1972. The KANUPP-I is a single unit CANDU-type PHWR reactor with a total gross capacity of 137MWe. The plant is situated at the Paradise Point on the arid Arabian Sea coast, about 15 miles to the west of Karachi.
 
We need all four sources ( Wind, Solar, Hydro and Nuclear ) for our Energy crises because it is huge. By 2030 we will need 6 to 8 times of electricity as we would produce. Keep in mind some of our Hydro plants like Mangla and Tarbela would have outlived their life span so we will lose those.

Pakistan should explore Solar, Wind, Hydro and definitely Nuclear Power Plants to meet our growing and exploding Energy needs.

The statusquo is deadly because we are losing our Textile base to Bangladesh as some of our Industrialist are setting up shops over there due to frustrations with the lack of Electricity.

Thəorətic Muslim;4086659 said:
Pakistan needs to diversify its Energy Supply. Currently there is no energy security. Pakistan needs to revise it's ENTIRE Energy Policy. It can not continue to build oil-furnaces to create electricity.

Some suggestions:

Pakistan has excellent hydro-electric potential, but mega projects are not the way to go. Small dams here and there with the capacity of 750-1.2 megawatts is a great idea. If only Pakistan can be more able to protect the Indus River & its tributaries.

Solar electricity will be a great idea, especially if the government is able to educate the people to install the panels on the roofs of their residence. Rather than buying UPS which add pressure on the national grid.

Wing power will be great for rural villages. Allot of electric power is lost in transit. Having the electric supply close to the consumer will be wonderful.

Nuclear Power only makes sense if it is to provide electricity to the cities. Which are projected to grow greatly in the next 5 years.

1) Mega Projects are not the way to go. Look at WAPDA. Small projects here and there will provide better employment for the local economy, the employees will have a vested interest to do the best work, because it will be "in their backyard".

2) Less maintenance costs, once the cost exceed the value, the government can just phase out the project.

3) Hopefully by the next decade the Country will be in a better position.

Side note: People could also build gardens on their roofs it has been proven that gardens are able to lower the temperature and are greener. There is a Great push in much of the world, where building are being remodeled to have gardens on the roofs. Look up Songdo, South Korea.


Not only is hydro power one of the cheapest and most efficient to produce but the benefits go way beyond just power generation e.g. water conservation, effective defense against floods, etc. (things which our people must know a lot about by now). Just to let it out there, according to estimates done in the early 90s by the Japanese, Pakistan dumped 90-95% of its hydro power resources into the sea untouched. Now that was in the 90s......but then we all are stupid morons who are selfish to the point of self-mutilation.

And @Thəorətic Muslim, one has to consider investment efficiency in these matters. Many small projects will cost a lot more and deliver a lot less than one big one. Also, we can't even build one, what would happen to the many?
 
And @Thəorətic Muslim, one has to consider investment efficiency in these matters. Many small projects will cost a lot more and deliver a lot less than one big one. Also, we can't even build one, what would happen to the many?

Small scale projects will cost a little bit more, but it will be easier to gather funding. Not every country/ IMF/ World Bank can spare $3-8 Billion dollars to fund one project. But if a project costs $1-3 billion its easier to gather funding from here and there.

These mega-projects of building the Three Gorges Dam will only last a few decades, and later cost more to destroy and replace, while small projects can be used as a stepping stone.

You can't build the Three Gorges Dam if you cant build a small 1.2 megawatt dam.

The Pak govt can fund a small project here and there, the success of the projects will help gain international notice. The money gathered from selling the electricity, will help provide financing for future projects. The small projects can be used as collateral for future projects.
 
Good news for country and the nation...! We should focus on nuclear power generation....!

Al Mighty has blessed with a country that has sun shine through out of the year we should concentrate on that more then nuclear energy.
 
ISLAMABAD: An energy-deficient Pakistan has entered into an agreement on $375 million wind power generation project to produce 150 megawatts of electricity by installing a plant close to Karachi, its largest industrial city.

The agreement for the project, scheduled to be completed in two years, was signed here on Sunday between the ministry of water and power and a US company AES Corporation.

US special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke and Water and Power Secretary Javed Iqbal put their signatures on the documents on behalf of their respective governments.

The project would be set up at three sites in the Gharo Corridor in Thatta district of Sindh.

Pakistan’s coastal belt is spread over hundreds of kilometres and is very windy throughout the year. According to rough estimates, the country has a potential to generate up to 50,000 megawatts of electricity by exploiting this source alone.

The project will reduce the country’s dependence on imported fuel and oil, saving Pakistan $45 million (Rs3.8 billion) a year.

The project, using new technology of ‘clean’ power, would serve about 600,000 homes in the area.

The money being spent on the project would neither be a loan to Pakistan’s government nor would it be from the amount due to come from Washington to Islamabad under Kerry-Lugar legislation.

Holbrooke said it was the best example of private-public partnership between the two countries as the ministry of water and power would represent Pakistan while USAID and US Overseas Private Investment Corporation (Opic) and American Power Company (AES) Corporation were joining hands from the other side.

Referring to the successful example of Germany in producing wind energy, Holbrooke said the completion of this project would also encourage international community to invest in this sector in Pakistan, helping resolve its acute energy crisis.

Secretary Water and Power Javed Iqbal said the project would further strengthen the bilateral relations between the two countries.

He said Pakistan has great potential in the alternative energy sector and this project would lay the foundation for future cooperation between the two countries in this field.
 
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